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Haswell (5370K) or wait for Skylake?

Question: Haswell (5370K) or wait for Skylake?

So,
All of the naming conventions has me a bit confused. I am looking to build again and wonder if there are enough significant differences in upcoming chips to warrant holding off.

I was going to build using the 5370K 6 core chip. Does anyone here have information that can be said to say, HEY WAIT you want to hold off for (XXXX) chips next year.

Finally, what is the difference between the Haswell, 5370K chips and Broadwelll and Skylake?

Thanks

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Preferred Solution: Haswell (5370K) or wait for Skylake?

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Answer: Haswell (5370K) or wait for Skylake?

What is a 5370K? Do you mean a 5930k 6-core 12-thread 2011 v3 40 lane chip?

This type of chip will have much better performance for heavily CPU bound multi-threaded applications. If overclocked you will often get as good and sometimes better gaming performance when coupled with good GPUs but when it comes to content creation these chips will excel. The problem is moving to a 5930 means you'll need a new motherboard (2011 v3), likely some new RAM (DDR4) and possibly a new HSF depending on what you're currently using. You're talking $800-1000 U.S. just to upgrade an existing machine to include this chip. That being said, if I had the extra money available to me right now I'd do it.

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Hi all, I'm just wondering if I should buy an X250 now (with the 10% off sale going on), or if it is worth waiting to get the new X260s that will be coming out next month. I am looking to buy this machine primarily for work (graduate school), but also for some light multimedia and classic gaming (e.g., games from 2013 and older). My understanding is that the major difference between the X250 and X260 will be the CPU/GPU. The X250 will have an i5 5200U Intel HD 5500 vs the X260 with the i56200U Intel HD 520. The only other real difference (besides price) will be the replacement of the old (DVI I think?) port with an HDMI port.As far as you all know, is this correct? I also wanted to ask about Skylake. Is Skylake the next big jump in processors / new architecture and Broadwell, Haswell, etc. was the old? Or is Skylake more of an incremental jump? I ask because I really wouldn't want to buy the first of a lineup of processors. Just like you wouldn't buy the first year version of a truck, I wouldn't want to be the person buying the first version of a processor / architecture. Lastly, I have read here, and in a few more forums that the internal and or external battery on the X250 series notebooks has some issues with endurance. In fact, one post on here has people claiming that after only 30 or so cycles their battery is already losing about 15% capacity. To me, this is unacceptable. As far as I am aware, Lithium Ion batteries should last 200-300 cycl... Read more

Answer:Should I get an X250 or wait for the X260? Skylake vs. Haswell

I'd wait. Skylake is way too new so there are various bugs and BIOS issues, check P70 issues. Also consider T460s. Almost the same weight as X260 (and size due horrible wide 16:9 form factor) but more configuration options.





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Can someone explain what will happen if I try to run windows 7 on Kaby Lake? Will my computer explode? I understand that Windows 7 won't be able to use the new Speed Shift and Turbo Boost 3.0 technology, but will Windows 7 run at all? Also, I see after July
2018 critical updates will only be addressed for systems running on Skylake. So does this mean if I am running Windows 7 on Haswell I'm out of luck, no security updates for me?

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/03/18/updates-to-support-policy-for-skylake-devices-running-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

Jacen

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Question: Wait for Haswell?

I'm thinking about buying a new Thinkpad T530, however it looks like the T series still has 3rd gen Intel chipsets.  Would it be better to wait?  Is there an estimated date in which we can expect to see new T series models with Haswell processors? 













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Answer:Wait for Haswell?

I don't have anything official but if I was a betting man I'd bet on late August or early September.
 
Generally the performance improvements in Haswell are incremental. As to whether it's worth the wait, the main improvements are faster graphics speeds on the integrated GPU models and overall better battery life due to lower CPU power consumption. If either are important to you then Google for reviews and comparisons between Haswell and Ivy Bridge, then decide.

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I am planing to buy spectre x360. will the next generation spectre x360 come with Skylake? if yes, is it likely to come late this year or only in 2016?
Update: HP Spectre X360 with Skylake CPU coming soon!!!
European retail sites Fnac and Icecat have both posted product listings for the new HP Spectre x360 with I5-6200U.
Source: http://liliputing.com/2015/08/hp-spe...ming-soon.html

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Where do i start? can any one tell me why my browse speed decays to "0" after about 10 to 15 minutes on the web. Several friends who use the same ISP say they do not experience this problem. I wait 10,15 or more minutes for the rate to pick up again. if i am listening to real audio, after 30 seconds, it registers "net congestion" forever.
One trick i use is to go to the link "alltheweb" or sometimes the "hotmail" site will triger the bytes received to start moving. motorola has said they find no problem with my modem and my ISP "Freewwweb" tell me the same thing.

Soooo the problem may be in my P2-233, 64 meg RAM Netscape system. Again the problem! Rapid decay in browse speed with 5 or 10 minute waits for pages to change
 

Answer:world wide wait & wait & wait & wait ... ...

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HELP!
My laptop sat unactive for a week (or so) and lost battery power. Now when turning it on (after plugging in and charging battery) I can not get beyond the please wait screen. I have tried booting in safe mode and have tried last known good configuration. Still same result. It will go to Please Wait....the circle will turn.....it will flash black screen (like it is attempting to boot maybe) and then back to Please Wait.

My last resort is to try the factory recovery disks, but I am looking into other options so as not to lose pictures that may not be backed up.

Answer:please wait....flash black....please wait

Hi and Welcome to TSF!

Do you have the Windows Vista CD?

If so boot from your Windows Vista CD and launch Startup Repair.

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So my 5 year old dell xps m1530 (currently running w8 pro) laptop a couple weeks ago all of a sudden just displayed a white screen well it eventually faded to black with different parts of the screen turning black faster...sort of like Rorschach's mask. But I was able to fix it by taking off the bottom cover and applying heat from a heat gun directly to the CPU and gpu (I saw a YouTube video of this guy use a blow torch to his lol). Anyway so that fix lasted for a couple weeks but just a couple of days ago it happened again and is now requiring me to fix it at least once day. So I've been deciding whether or not to buy a new laptop... There or two things on my mind that are stopping me from getting one right now...first the potential of Microsoft renewing their promotion of buy a new laptop $699 and up and get a free Xbox 360 if you are student which I am (starting my masters this summer in ocean engineering) and second the possibly new better hardware and designs by OEMs for windows blue! What do you guys think of the possibility of Microsoft doing their Xbox promotion and new better laptops from OEMs for windows blue?

Answer:To wait or not to wait to buy a new laptop...that is the question.

Also if you bought a laptop recently and would recommend it let me know. That would be much appreciated!

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Does anyone have any information on when the 11" Yoga will be updated to Haswell (and, presumably, a higher resolution screen)? I was on the fence between the 11 and 13" models, but color problems with the 13" Yoga 2's screen panel have convinced me to put off my purchase. I assume the 11" model will have a different panel that hopefully can reproduce yellow accurately.  I saw this Engadget reference to an updated 11" model back when the Yoga 2 Pro was announced, but nothing since. Any information would be appreciated!

Answer:11" Yoga 2 Pro with Haswell?

There's also the 12.5" Thinkpad Yoga coming out any time now which looks pretty sexy too. Z.

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I have a Core i5 4670K Haswell processor running on a Z87X-UD3H motherboard and would like to enable XMP.

I would like to know which memtest I should use to check for any errors once XMP is enabled. There are two options on this site and I don't really know the difference between them:

Memtest86+ 5.01
Memtest86 Free Edition 5.00

I am leaning towards Memtest86+ but it says it only has preliminary support for Haswell. Would that be a problem?
 

Answer:Which Memtest to use with Haswell CPU?

majinbuu said:





I have a Core i5 4670K Haswell processor running on a Z87X-UD3H motherboard and would like to enable XMP.

I would like to know which memtest I should use to check for any errors once XMP is enabled. There are two options on this site and I don't really know the difference between them:

Memtest86+ 5.01
Memtest86 Free Edition 5.00

I am leaning towards Memtest86+ but it says it only has preliminary support for Haswell. Would that be a problem?Click to expand...

Everything I've read says that either of the two you mention are the best freeware memory testers. One site says that Memtest86+ is the best. There is, of course, Windows built-in memory test if you want a second opinion after running either Memtest. Also, you're testing the RAM and not the CPU so, Haswell shouldn't make a difference.
 

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Question: Haswell chips

Hi everyone I just want to know when the x series laptops will start featuring the haswell chips? I think it would be a great product not only due to increased battery life but also better gaming performance for casual gamers such as myself

Answer:Haswell chips

Nothing has been announced officially but I'd expect to see Haswell based ThinkPads in September.

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When will be released the X1 Carbon with Haswell architecture?

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I've been looking to get my son a new laptop as a graduation gift to take to college, and his school recommend at least an i5 and 8 gb RAM. He loves the size and versatility of the 11s, but it looks like they don't have a Haswell with 8gb. I'm not a tech, but I've upgraded laptop RAM before so that's not a big concern, but I wondered why it wouldn't be offered with 8 gb? Is there a noticeable difference after swapping in the 8gb for the 4gb? Might I be better off going with the older processor that comes with 8gb?

Answer:Yoga 11s Haswell. 4GB vs. 8GB?

I am not 100% sure but, I don't think you can upgrade the ram on the 11s. If I am not mistaken, it is soldered onto the motherboard. The more ram, the more programs you can run. Little ram will slow you computer if you take up most of it. In the end, windows 8 by default takes up 2 gb easily. So plan accordingly.

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Hello everyone. Bought a Haswell Yoga 11s a few month back. I'm really happy with it, except the SSD which I always found a bit small. I decided to replace it with a 240Go Crucial M500. That did not went well; I ran into the same problem as this guy. Well, stupid of me not to check if there was a problem before buying. So I bought another one; an Intel 530 240Go as well, thinking "Well, it seemed to work well for this guy". Well, same problem. So, here's what I did:Switch the old ssd for the new oneSSD is detected by BIOS (in first page)SSD is not detected by operating system. I tried diskpart in Windows and gparted on Ubuntu, the disk does not appear.Tried switching from AHCI to IDE ("legacy"), disabling secure boot, trying a non-uefi OS, and basically disabling every kind of option in the bios, all withtout success.I cannot upgrade the firmware of the SSDs since there not detected by the update softwareI am 100% sure they both work fine (tried them in USB case)Some people seemed to have some success with Samsung drives, since it's the brand used in the original system. But frankly, I've already spent 250? on SSDs and I'd like to find a solution for this. Lenovo: couldn't you update the BIOS of this device? I'm not the only one with problems, and I don't understand why no one seems to bother. For now, I'm back on the old 120Go SSD, but I'd like to be able to put my SSD of choice in the device I bought. If anyone else can help, I'll welcom... Read more

Answer:Haswell Yoga 11s - New SSD

smad1705 wrote:Hello everyone. Bought a Haswell Yoga 11s a few month back. I'm really happy with it, except the SSD which I always found a bit small. I decided to replace it with a 240Go Crucial M500. That did not went well; I ran into the same problem as this guy. Well, stupid of me not to check if there was a problem before buying. So I bought another one; an Intel 530 240Go as well, thinking "Well, it seemed to work well for this guy". Well, same problem. So, here's what I did:Switch the old ssd for the new oneSSD is detected by BIOS (in first page)SSD is not detected by operating system. I tried diskpart in Windows and gparted on Ubuntu, the disk does not appear.Tried switching from AHCI to IDE ("legacy"), disabling secure boot, trying a non-uefi OS, and basically disabling every kind of option in the bios, all withtout success.I cannot upgrade the firmware of the SSDs since there not detected by the update softwareI am 100% sure they both work fine (tried them in USB case)Some people seemed to have some success with Samsung drives, since it's the brand used in the original system. But frankly, I've already spent 250? on SSDs and I'd like to find a solution for this. Lenovo: couldn't you update the BIOS of this device? I'm not the only one with problems, and I don't understand why no one seems to bother. For now, I'm back on the old 120Go SSD, but I'd like to be able to put my SSD of choice in the device I bought. If anyone else can he... Read more

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Are there plans for future helix builds to make the haswell cpu as part of the device and will the fan control and heat dissipation benefit from this new cpu as well as the battery life and graphics capability? 

Answer:haswell CPU + helix

This is a huge issue for me.  We were looking at the Helix for adoption but with the Haswell right around the corner we are delaying as many of our laptop, tablet, and ultrabook purchases as we can squeeze into the next fiscal year.  We'll do desktops/workstations now, as Haswell matters less to us in those contexts, but things like the Helix are unlikely to be purchased until they integrate Haswell. Don't get me wrong, we love the Helix design and what it promises.  The battery in the keyboard, i7, true W8pro with 8gb ram, 256 ssd, 11.6" screen, digitizer pen -- this is all exactly what we want in a convertible tablet, but unless Haswell flops and fails to deliver on its energy-saving promises, there is just no way we'll buy it with a 3rd gen i7.

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Haswell's performance, pitted against Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge CPU's.

Core i7-4770K: Haswell Performance Preview

Answer:Haswell First Look: Performance

Most of those will probably be nice for overclockers. I don't think I'll give Intel anymore money, as I'm very happy with the i7-3770, I have.

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I am very interested in getting the Yoga 11 with Haswell.  I need to get a new work computer soon but don't want to buy the current Yoga 11s only to find out the Haswell version in coming in a couple of months.  Does anyone have some insight?

Answer:Yoga 11s with Haswell?

I have the same question + chances of including a higher resolution screen.

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Question: Haswell in Yoga 13

Will the Lenovo Yoga 13 recieve the new Haswell-processor, when it hits the market in june? If so, when will it be released? And will it include the GT3 integrated graphics? RegardsJonas Larsen

Answer:Haswell in Yoga 13

I'm interesting too.

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Question: Some Haswell info

I sent an inquiry to Jeffery of ASUS support about some comments he made in Newegg's review section. I expressed concern about why so many ASUS Z87 boards were being returned as DOA. Here is his interesting explanation.
Please add your thoughts or knowledge.

Hello Gary,

Looks like when the new Haswell board released their are some PSU that are not compatible with the board that won't allow the board to turn on. Haswell has a low voltage to turn on and these PSU are assuming the board isn't getting enough power which customers assume its DOA.

When you purchase the Z87 board, you have the best contact to get things done in a timely manner and worry free as much as possible.

Regards,
Jeffrey

Answer:Some Haswell info

I have no idea what that means.
Gary can you put that in Ohio English?

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Question: Haswell RAM issue

The Haswell has a much lower memory read than the Sandy Bridge and I wonder why. Any ideas? The Sandy is OC'ed to 4400 and the Haswell to 4200. The RAM is identical, GSkill Sniper 2133 2x4GB, but is OC'ed to 2200 in the Haswell, same timings, 9-11-10, 1.65V.

Answer:Haswell RAM issue

Quick google search turned this up from Tom's Hardware forums:






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Both Haswell processors were tested using 3DMark11, AIDA64, Super Pi, Cinebench 11.5 and Fritz Chess Benchmark programs. The "admin" user also ran tests on Core i7-3770K, and made an attempt to run them on Core i7-4770K, overclocked to 4.5 GHz. Overclocked 4770K, even with water cooling, was not stable enough to complete Cinebench 11.5, and running more CPU intensive benchmarks like Prime95 was out of the question. It seems that, like their Ivy Bridge predecessors, Haswell CPUs exhibit the same problem operating at high or very high temperatures when overclocked. Nevertheless, the user was able to receive some results for Core i7-4770K @ 4.5GHz, and they are presented in the table below:
Benchmarks Core i7-4770K Core i5-4570K Core i7-3770K Core i7-4770K
(overclocked)
3DMark 11 X5085 X4983 X5022 X5013
AIDA64 read 22190 MB/s 20660 MB/s 23247 MB/s 23127 MB/s
AIDA64 write 22673 MB/s 20927 MB/s 20704 MB/s 26125 MB/s
AIDA64 copy 29739 MB/s 28351 MB/s 24907 MB/s 30651 MB/s
Super Pi 9.344 10.187 9.329 8.018
Fritz Chess Benchmark 14398 11476 14683 17461
Cinebench 11.5 CPU 7.82 6.06 7.88
Cinebench 11.5 OpenGL 75.93 68.26 57.74
Looking at the results, one might say that Haswell's CPU performance is pretty much the same as performance of Ivy Bridge counterparts. Haswell chips are slower at reading from memory, but faster at writing to, or copying data in memory. Ivy Bridge-b... Read more

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I currently have an Asus P8P67 REV 3.1 motherboard that is great with my 3770k. I am looking into getting the new 4770K i7 which uses the new LGA 1150 socket. What would the P67 equivalent be for the new Haswell CPU? Please don't recommend any brands, just the chipset.


I appreciate the responses.

Answer:P67 Equivalent for the New Haswell

The most widely available and supported are the Z87 chipsets. IMHO any decent board would start with a Z87 chipset, and the rest depends on what features you're looking for (how many SATA3/USB3, etc)

There are also B85, H81, H87 chipsets, but IIRC, they are geared more towards budget and business type boards.

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I've been looking for a nice laptop for college and the one I've decided I like the most so far is the Asus Zenbook Prime but the only problem is it has Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell, and the updated Zenbook Infinity with haswell is wayy too much money.Is there that much more performance/benefit with haswell? I just don't know If should look for another laptop with haswell because I don't want the ivy bridge CPU to be obselete in a year after buying it.
 

Answer:Ivy Bridge vs Haswell

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I've been looking for a nice laptop for college and <snip> I don't want the ivy bridge CPU to be obselete in a year after buying it.Click to expand...


Any computer you buy will have a performance depreciation value after a year. Obsolescence is a factor you can't avoid.
CPU architect obsolescence is probably a factor you shouldn't think of, when purchasing a device with low upgrade possibilities.
The only question is whether the device fits your current needs. If you focus on future needs, you will go insane trying to make a decision. If you know what your needs will be in a year, then you can make a decision based on those needs. If not, then I would only focus on current needs.

One last thing since Haswell is the latest offering from Microsoft, there will likely be a price premium on any device with Haswell. Devices with Ivy may have a slightly better price/performance value, based on the very notion of why you are asking this question.
 

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Hi everyone, I want a new Lenovo Laptop (I am not searching for a tablet-only-solution) and it definitely has to have the Digitalizer option.Can someone tell me- which laptops are even supporting digitalizer? (seems that the new X240 and T440s are not...). Is there like a full list?- are there any 4th generation laptops that actually support digitalizer (except for the Thinkpad Yoga) or do I have to get an "old" one?  Thanks!

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The rumours of a 5GHz FX-9000 / Centurion processor based upon the Piledriver CPU seems to be gathering momentum if SweClockers are to be believed.

At a 20% increase in stock frequency for 76% increase in TDP, it should be interesting to see the motherboard compatibility list. 220 watt would denote a high leakage part, so maybe the 9000 moniker denotes AMD aiming at 9GHz under LN2/LHe

[SweClockers]
 

Answer:AMD's answer to Haswell?

AMD is trying to fend off Haswell until their Steamroller cores are ready. It seems to me that this is just an overclocked Vishera chip with the ridiculously high TDP. Wasn't the FX-8350's TDP high enough? AMD wants to increase it even more? Heck, just get an FX-8350 and run it at 4.8GHz, which a lot of people seem to reach with a proper motherboard. I have nothing against AMD, considering my current rig is an AMD rig. I just think the TDP is way too high.
 

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Hi Guys, firstly thanks for going out your way to read the post, just to see if you can help! Kudos!Basically my problem is - the CPU appears to be running at 100% according to task manager. Games that on my mates i5 take 20% cpu are using 80% on mine. I Twitch alot and this is causing me some big problems.. it appears to slowly get worse the longer the system is in the game for. Right lets start with SPEC:
OS - Windows 8.1 
Processor - i5 Haswell 4670 (non k)
GPU - Nvidia GTX660 ti
MOBO - Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H-CF
Ram - 8gb blue hyperx
PSU - OCZ 750w
SSD - OCZ Agility 3 120gb
Ok i recently upgraded the i5 haswell, the motherboard and the ram in December. Old components are the GPU, the PSU and the SSD. 
here is a quick 3 minute game worth of battlefield 4 on LOW settings.https://www.dropbox.com/sh/23nmxsl5n109qie/ICEGvpUe3_
Something just isn't quite right... I'm completely lost.
The only things i can think is, PSU, or SSD.... surely not the cpu.. but can the PSU cause this type of problem... 
Anything you want me to try, or run to help me find out what i need to "fix/replace" please let me know. 
I am aware of a problem with an auto backup on 8.1 (a setting of sorts) which i have disabled already to try and eradicate this problem with no joy. 
Gentlemen.. please help! 

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Anyone had any luck in getting HD4600 Graphics and Haswell systems to work on Vista? Trying to install Vista Ultimate and getting an "Insert Proper Boot Device, blah blah blah" after the first restart of the install. Don't see any drivers on the Intel site either, though I thought I'd be able to install Vista before dealing with issues.

Could be the fact that I'm installing UEFI and might not have the partitions set correctly. Any Vista guide for UEFI?

Answer:HD4600/Haswell on Vista?

I think it's your UEFI, try booting in the old mode.

But you will not get proper drivers for it.

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What Are Your Thoughts On the Upcoming Chips

Answer:Thoughts on Haswell And Steamroller

just bumping up the thread

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I was reading The review for the Haswell iris pro when I realized something:






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There’s only a single size of eDRAM offered this generation: 128MB. Since it’s a cache and not a buffer (and a giant one at that), Intel found that hit rate rarely dropped below 95%. It turns out that for current workloads, Intel didn’t see much benefit beyond a 32MB eDRAM however it wanted the design to be future proof. Intel doubled the size to deal with any increases in game complexity, and doubled it again just to be sure. I believe the exact wording Intel’s Tom Piazza used during his explanation of why 128MB was “go big or go home”. It’s very rare that we see Intel be so liberal with die area, which makes me think this 128MB design is going to stick around for a while.


(page 3, "Addressing the memory bandwidth problem")

I immediately did some looking around:
System requirements for Windows XP operating systems At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM (128 MB is recommended)

Frequently Asked Questions - DSL Wiki (system requirements): 16 MBs RAM (recommended 64MBs)

You can practically run an OS without any ram installed! Aside from the fact that it would be a waste of GT3 graphics.

However, if Intel was to pair the 128MB eDRAM with a cheap Atom they could possibly kill off the Arduino!

Answer:Haswell iris pro is awesome

Remarkable. I know of a few linux distros that can run in that space with a graphical UI.
And I have the sneaking suspicion that x86 Android is in that list.

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After a lot of web surfing i have seen about haswell over heating problems and OCing problems

Is it all true about the haswell cpu

Sorry if i posted in the wrong place

Answer:Information needed on haswell cpu

Look at this thread

Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

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Hi All, Having some issues trying to update the bios. Currently running Ubuntu so cannot use the windows utility to update, my only option now is to create a bootable USB and use tools like UNetbootin to create the USB via the iso image. I have found that the iso image from the Lenovo website is empty? I had tried to mount this iso file on my system and its empty... no hidden files etc... I also tried to download it on spare windows machine with a cdrom and used the windows default burning tool to burn the iso which gave an error. Has anyone had any success updating their bios using the ISO file supplied by Lenovo from: http://support.lenovo.com/en_AU/downloads/detail.page?&DocID=DS039783 Any assistance is appreciated, Thanks,

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My ideal Thinkpad Yoga spec includes 512 SSD and i7Haswell, will I be waiting in vain? What would  be the difference in speed and  battery time compared to 512 HDD + 16Gb SSD and i5 which I find in stock. Any views and experiences would be appreciated.Ellin

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Hi,How do I know wich drivers to install ?

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Hi all! I do not know if the haswell or bay trail m updates iare compatible with my flex 2 14 (i7 840m w8.1). I would appriciate a nod in the right direction.cheers/stiffstil













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Answer:Haswell or bay trail m? flex 2 14

Haswell Platform: Pentium 3558U; i3-4010U; i5-4200U; Pentium 2990U; I3-4015U; l3-4020U; I5-4210U; I7-4510U  Bay Trail?M Platform: Celeron 2806 (Memory1066MHz); Celeron 2815 (Memory1066MHz); Celeron 2920 (Memory1066MHz); Pentium 3520 (Memory1333MHz); Celeron 2807 (Memory1333MHz); Celeron 2830(Memory1333MHz); Celeron 2930 (Memory1333MHz); Pentium 3530 (Memory1333MHz)

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The title says it all Can 1 please have alist of all ram upgrades i can have with the HP 14-ro24TX Haswell Corei3, Thanks!

Answer:What RAM sticks can you use for the HP 14-ro24TX Haswell Cor...

@JustAskingAbout? 2 customer-accessible/upgradable memory module slots Supports dual-channel memory DDR3L-1600-MHz REO 

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I'm thinking of using the haswell i5 processor with 4 cores (Intel® Core™ i5-4440S Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz)) for an always on system and am looking for good power efficiency.
This has a rated tdp of 65W

As this is going to act as a headless server and the graphics cores will not be used, am I correct in thinking they get 'switched off'? If this is the case what is the likely tdp going to be?
 

Answer:Haswell Power Consumption

The cpu pw consumption is adjusted on a dynamic basis in relation to load. Unless you run the system with a fixed load; ie running prime95, etc, the amount of pw used by the cpu is constantly going to change as load on the system changes.

If you want to know how much pw the system uses, then plug it into something like this;
http://www.homedepot.com/p/P3-International-Kill-A-Watt-EZ-Meter-P4460/202196388#.Uih-ZD-Iy70
 

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Just curious as to what the energy savings would be like for a always on desktop using a haswell chip?

for example, going for as low as possible power consumption on a headless PC that most of the time sits idle, but has to be there on demand? i.e web apps, transocding etc
 

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Hi I recently posted a topic about upgrading my z77 1155 socket mobo to and newer higher end 1155 board with 3/4way cfx/sli support, But now I am going to be selling my Msi z77 board and my intel 3570k to a buddy at work, and with the money I will be upgrading to the newer 4770k or the 4820k if it is released in time and if it is 1150 socket. Now with that said I have around $400-450 budget on a new Z87 board with 3/4 way cfx/sli support, I'm only spending this much because with this setup I don't plan on upgrading to a new processor/mobo for a couple of years. Here are the motherboard I have been looking at..

MSI Z87 Xpower flagship board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130689

Asus Maximus VI Extreme http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131974

Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC Force http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128596

Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 LGA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128595

Now as far as the boards go their all very similar the Asus Republic of Gamer boards seems to be a lot of peoples choice when it comes to Gaming Rigs but then MSI Xpower board seems to have the best On board audio and On board Lan Chipset which would be nice because three 7970s will probably cover all the PCI Slots but the board has the highest price tag. So out of my 4 choices listed I'm just wondering which board seems the best to go with when it comes to BIOS and high overclocking on bot... Read more

Answer:High end Haswell Mobos

The 4820K will be socket LGA 2011. It will not work for this build (Z87).

When looking at high end boards, you do not need to look at onboard audio and LAN since enthusiasts usually like to buy sounds cards and high end network cards. But the Xpower comes with a Killer networking card already, so that is out of the way. You may want a sound card though.

All the boards have their advantages, like the Xpower has a killer (brand) LAN card, the ASUS has great quality and features (like the OC panel), and the Gigabyte, well, I dont know xD.

Keep in mind though, the Xpower motherboard is an XL ATX. Make sure your case can handle it.

I would recommend the ASUS since I love ASUS boards and they have great quality, but the MSI one is also tempting, just make sure your case can fit it. It really comes down to color schemes since all have great features. The Gigabyte may be loud since it has chipset fans, so I would avoid them.

If you are doing a triple xfire configuration, I really think you should water cool them since they will really heat up.
 

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I'm going to college this summer, in August. I've been looking into getting a new laptop for college and so far the one I've been looking at is the Asus UX51-VZ, as it has a good balance between portability, performance, and graphics that I'm looking for. However, I know Intel's Haswell architecture has just come out, but isn't available in any Asus Ultrabooks yet. As of now, I have no computer for use at home so I'm leaning towards getting my new laptop now. But, are the benefits of Haswell over Ivy Bridge really that significant that I should wait until it is released in more laptops?
Thanks for your help.

Answer:Will Haswell be significantly better than Ivy Bridge?

The biggest thing Haswell brings to the table over Ivy is battery life.

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Hello all, Newbie here with an issue with my machine.  I picked up a Yoga 11s last month and I'm getting a WHEA_UNCORRECTALBE_ERROR message before my computer restarts.  I ordered the machine from best buy, with the Haswell processor and 4GB RAM.  I upgraded to 8GB immediatly.  The unit has been working fine untill 2 nights ago when I started getting this error.  I have performed 3 system wipes hoping that would solve the issue.  I also created a new windows account after the 3rd wipe thinking maybe it was an issue with my windows account. I contacted Lenovo, and they are sending a restore CD to me which I will try when I receive it.  In the mean time, are there any other suggestions on how to fix this?  After speaking to the rep, she said it's most likely the hardware and I will need to send it back to them to fix. Unfortunatly I'm out of town and dont have the tools to pull and re-seat the memory.  Could this be the issue?  Is it possible there is an issue with the memory that would cause this issue? Right now I have Windows 8 on the unit after the restore.  I had 8.1 before the first crash and  I have not had enough time with the unit being on to upgrade back to 8.1 before restarting Any help would be greatly appriciated!Thanks!

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Hi i'm curious if someone with an 11s haswell version can run any tests atleast 3dmark 06 and 3dmark ice storm. Reason being I have a dell venue pro 11 with the same i5 4210y processor in it and it is performing under what it should. I get around 17.5k in the 3dmark ice storm which is barely above the bay trail atoms as well as other benchmarks. I'm trying to figure out if it is something to do with the dell throttling itself or if it is an issue with the processor itself. I havn't had much luck finding good examples elsewhere with the processor. thanks!

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Pretty happy with my 11s/haswell but thinking the batterylife is a bit weak.. although I've only had it for a couple weeks and recharged it a few times.. not quite sure if I've used it enough to know for sure. I just did a battery rundown test..  about 5 hours and 15 minutes with screen at 50 percent playing a repeating 720p MKV movie. I was thinking I'd get 6 or 7 after checking some others reviews.. just wondering if anyone knows if mkv's are substantially tougher on battery? vs lower res avi's? And if this seems to be good or bad battery life?  Also and while the screen looks pretty darn good for a 1366x768 I have substantial light leakage around the bottom right of the screen and wondering if this is par for the course on these? I'm very slighlty having some buyers remorse.. I feel pretty good about the laptop but thinking I may have been happier with the 13" yoga 2 pro.. 

Answer:Yoga 11s haswell battery life

I only get about 5 hours web surfing and typing (screen at 80-90%). It's not the greatest, but it's not the worst either.

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Someone on the Lenovo Facebook mentioned that it would be possible to put a Haswell chip in an existing Lenovo convertible, and that doesn't seem right to me because it takes a different slot. Is this legit? 













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Answer:If I get a Helix now, can I replace the chip with a Haswell when that comes out?

You can't upgrade the CPU of ultra book, x series or tablets. So what the person said about putting a haswell chip is incorrect.

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Hey everybody new member here, need some quick advice and hope this is not a reposted question (i am on time constraints on this computer)

Anyway, I was about to install my haswell CPU into the motherboard but accidentally touched the bottom of the chip. Note, there are no pins on the chip, but im sure i got my oily fingers into the connectors.

My question is, can i use coffee filter and 99 % isoproply on the back of the chip? ill ensure to be wearing gloves for the procedure
 

Answer:1150 Haswell CPU 4770K Cleaning

Just grab a clean, dry lint free cloth or paper towel and wipe the area you touched. Be careful for the resistors in the center and that you are properly grounded.
 

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and some benchmarks at the end. http://www.afr.com/f/free/technology/digitallife/lenovo_tiny_new_thinkpad_may_be_YqHFwrGrTODxvnDLhuy...

Answer:Interesting article regarding Helix and Haswell

it seems the test was done without using the keyboard, which is a pity given half of the juice of the helix comes from the keyboard with a second battery and more cooling.

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Gang I am just wondering if I got a bizarre special order Yoga 2 11 or a rarity otherwise.  My model, a Haswell i5 silver Yoga 2 11, had its prior drive removed for security purposes.  The connector in its only drive bay is a so-called 'single notch' M.2 spec SATA M-Key adapter.  it appears to be 'factory', mounted securely and professionally on the SSD tray/bay/sled - up to 80mm length.  I called Lenvo Tech Support, gave serial, and asked them what drive they originally shipped with it.  As best I can determine, the samsung drive they called out [part 16200609] is not a single but double notch "M+B" M.2 drive.  so something is amiss. if you have one like mine, what drive is in it?  they are very very rare and difficult to verify

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Specifically Haswell machines running Asus Z87 boards. Both of mine absolutely refuse to sleep, even when I do it manually the damn things spin back up almost immediately. The Ivy Bridge Z77 machine however hasn't had a single problem with 8.1 and the sleep/suspend stuff. I'm starting to suspect that the new Haswell low power mode bits in 8.1 are playing havoc with the power saving options.
 

Answer:Anyone else unable to sleep a Haswell machine on Win 8.1?

I have a friend with a Maximus VI Hero board who has the same problem. I'd be interested to see if there's a solution to be had.
 

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Just looking at the new Haswell processors from Intel. Thought it may be interesting to see what everyones thoughts are on the new 1150 processor.

Example on which we can work from. I will build 2 x business desktop computers both running 120GB SSD hard drives

Intel Pentium G620 / MSI B75MA-E33 total cost = ?83

Intel Pentium G3220 3.00GHz (Haswell) / MSI B85M-P33 total cost = ?104

Is there any real gain / price on the above? or is it too early to say?

Has anyone tried out the Haswell processors?

all comments welcome.

Answer:Intel Haswell... worth the upgrade?

Hello ascomputers mate it might be worth asking in here I know it is a lot about overclocking but the folks in there are using Haswells .
Official Seven Forums Overclock Leader boards

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Windows XP has been the OS of choice for a lot of us, and still is. I was reading an article where MS is closing up support shop for XP in 2014. However while I was browsing the pages of many MB for a friends 1150 build, almost all mid-high end boards have stopped supporting XP in their OS specifications. I understand that if your building a haswell system more likely than not your gonna go for W7 or even 8.1 but still its sad to see XP being excluded already on the hardware level by alot of MB manufacturers.

Feel free to chime in!
 

Answer:Noticing new trends in Haswell MBs in relation to OS

If there are drivers for XP, it's supported regardless of what is stated on the box.
 

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I'm loving my Libretto w100.
I've upgraded it to 256Gb.

Now there should be an upgrade to Haswell.

This would resolve 2 main criticisms:

- duration of the battery
- noise because of the heating.

A libretto with Haswell would be the best computer of the world.

Answer:Will there be Libretto W100 with Intel Haswell CPU?

You are right gerdich?
The Libretto W100 was really a great unit? it?s a little bit older but until now the two displays and the virtual touch keyboard are futuristic piece of hardware.

However, since the unit series is already discontinued, I don?t think new CPUs will be built in the W100.

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Does anyone know if or when Lenovo will release a "W540"?

Answer:When is Haswell coming to town (W540)?

I would like to know too. The Haswell mobile benchmarks are impressive: PCMark 7 score is 6025 for a  2.4-GHz Intel quad-core Core i7-4700MQ processor, 32GB of RAM, dual 128GB SSDs in a RAID 2 array, and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 780M GPU with 4GB of VRAM, along with an Intel HD Graphics 4600 GPU.http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-4th-generation-core-processor-benchmarked The W540 ought to be able to match that.  PS: I wonder if the "RAID 2" is a typo and they meant to say "2 SSDs in RAID 0".





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Fresh Win7 install on HP Pavilion 17-e019dx with nothing running at Startup except AV. Today I am copying a large file, open UltraISO to write Win7 ISO to flash stick. The whole time this is going on (slowly) there is the annoying blue circle going whenever mouse crosses the open Ultra ISO window.

Is this most likely running up against the stock 4gb DD3 RAM, indicating only that it needs another stick? I didn't happen to check Task Manager RAM usage at the time, but now doing a simple copy operation uses 33% which seems high.

The reason I ask is that I am hesitant to put out another $50 for RAM on this Best Buy Black Friday $400 laptop unless I am sure it's a keeper. So far there are some other minor annoyances like only 1 USB2 port, but 2 USB3 ports that don't even fit a USB plug so why call it backwards compatible? Also the keyboard is soft enough it feels almost cheap...or else it's like butter which might be a good thing.

I have until Jan 15 to decide with Best Buy's holiday return policy, but might end up keeping it even if I sell it since I got 3000 AA bonus miles on the purchase.

What say you?

Answer:Why is new Core i3 4000 Haswell hanging? 4gb RAM?

Greg I really can't help much because it's so new and my knowledge of its motherboard is nil.
Sorry.
Why the USB 3.O connectors ports are different I really don't know.

SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps (USB 3.1) from the USB-IF

The SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbps (USB 3.1) Specification adds a 10 Gbps speed mode that uses a more efficient data encoding and will deliver more than twice the effective data through-put performance of existing SuperSpeed USB over enhanced, fully backward compatible USB connectors and cables. The specification extends the existing SuperSpeed mechanical, electrical, protocol and hub definition while maintaining compatibility with existing USB 3.0 software stacks and device class protocols as well as with existing 5 Gbps hubs and devices and USB 2.0 products.
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Your specs.
HP Pavilion 17-e019dx Notebook PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion 17-e019dx Notebook PC | HP? Support

Wish I could be more helpful.

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I have Acer Aspire VN7-791G-71P5 with Intel Core i7-4710HQ and Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M. CPU is limited to 47 W, shown above in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU), and I want some way to exceed it. I tried XTU to change turbo power limit and ThrottleStop to change the package power limit but they did not work.

Answer:Laptops with Intel Haswell (Core generation 4) CPU...

You would have better luck if you go to some of the overclockers forums.

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The launch of the Haswell 11S seems to have gone largely under the radar; as far as I can tell, the units are still only available from Best Buy, and not the Lenovo website. I recently got a Yoga 11, which has great battery life and a near identical design, but is crippled by Windows RT and relatively slow performance. I like the Yoga 11, but am considering returning it for a Haswell 11S, so I can have full Windows 8.1 and better processing speeds. My concern is that I'll still be giving up a lot of battery life, but I can't find any online estimations of battery life differences between the 11S (approximately 6-7 hours) and the new Haswell version. Since battery life was the main point of the Haswell processor, I'd presume it would be higher. Those of you with Haswell 11S, do you notice significantly greater battery life?

Answer:Yoga 11S Haswell owners, how's your battery life?

It did go largely under the radar which is unfortunate because its a pretty extraordinary machine for $799.  The battery was easily in the > 8 hr range without the sacrifices on an anemic processor and Win RT.  Not sure why it doens't get more press.

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Hi guys,

Just built a new PC with all the specs in my profile and it suffers from multiple BSODs. I've reformatted the SSD multiple times off a win7pro flashdrive but it just keeps happening.

All the BSODs point to a "typical software driver issue" or RAM issue. It's just a revolving circle! I can't figure out which driver it is even though i've ran the verifier. Chkdsk has no issues, and whocrashed tells me its RAM or some unknown driver.

The dumps are attached, any help would be greatly appreciated!

Answer:Multiple BSODs on a new haswell build, unsure of cause

Have you tried booting with just 1 stick of ram in the #1 slot?

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I have Acer Aspire VN7-791G-71P5 with Intel Core i7-4710HQ and Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M. CPU is limited to 47 W, shown above in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU), and I want some way to exceed it. I tried XTU to change turbo power limit and ThrottleStop to change the package power limit but they did not work.

Answer:Laptops with Intel Haswell (Core generation 4) CPU...

You would have better luck if you go to some of the overclockers forums.

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I would like to know whether there will be any future support of H-line Intel Haswell CPUs, in particular those with Iris Pro 5200 GPU and 128 MB L4 shared on-die cache? Currently there is no H-line processor listed in tech specs of either T540p, W540 or  any other Haswell-supporting notebook I have been looking at. For me, having Optimus switching between K2100M and HD 4400 is perfectly OK, but there will some clear benefits of having much more powerful Iris Pro under the hood especially when working on battery, which K2100M will be able to drain in an hour or so. Performance of Iris Pro appears to be slightly lower that that of K1100M, but in most cases one would be great. The tradeoff will be in non-certified drivers and possibly lower rendering precision, but one can always force discrete GPU on. I hope my question, whether H-line of Haswell CPUs will be available in the future for W540 is clear now.

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After upgrading to 8.1 on my Yoga 11s the computer will not restart after being shutdown. Upon pressing the power button the Lenovo name comes up then the screen goes black. If I do a hard shutdown by holding down the power button to turn off the machine it starts up fine though. Also had issues with the voume control after upgrade which were solved by reinstalling the audio driver. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Answer:Yoga 11s Haswell - Startup issues after 8.1 upgrade

Dear gmb65
 
Welcome to Lenovo forums
 
I think that you will need to do a recovery for the machine to roll back to win 8 but make sure to back up your data first
you can start the recovery from the Onekey recovery button as in the below image
 
Link to picture
 
Thanks
 
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I updated my Yoga 11s (Haswell chipset with i5 processor) to Windows 10.  Windows 10 provides a newer driver for Bluetooth, but I installed the one from Lenovo's web site anyway - the one supposedly for both 8.1 and 10.  No matter what version I used (the one that was used when I installed Windows 10 or the one from Lenovo's web site), Bluetooth will not work properly on my Yoga 11s.Bluetooth does not start up enabled.  If I enabled it, once it turns on, I can no longer toggle it on and off.  I was somehow able to get my Jambox speaker and my Lumia Windows Phone paired with it shortly after installing Windows 10, but I can no longer connect the devices and I cannot remove the pairs either.  Further, if I try to pair the bluetooth Microsoft Arc Mouse the Yoga won't find it, even though it use to work under Windows 8.1.  I also cannot pair an HP bluetooth mouse I have.I have applied all updates from Microsoft so all patches, including the recent large one are all applied and running on the Yoga 11s.  I think there is a drive problem that Lenovo needs to fix.Anyone else had any luck with such devices as a Microsoft Arc Mouse?

Answer:Yoga 11s (Haswell) Bluetooth not working in Windows 10

I'm having the exact same issue.  Have you found a solution yet?

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I know the Y series is supposed to be slower than the U series, but I'm feeling like this thing is abnormally slow on my GF's Yoga 11S. Task Manager shows it only performing at .58ghz while trying to load Sims 3 (I know this game has issues but it hardly seems to run at all as well - amazingly slow load times). Is Task Manager inaccurate? I think the CPU is supposed to be 1.5ghz. I've also felt the machine running a little slow in regards to UI. For instance, right clicking might have a small delay in regards to the contextual menu. Is there a setting or driver I'm missing here?













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Answer:Yoga1 11S Haswell (4310y) - sluggish UI? Low CPU frequency?

Are you running on battery or mains? The default power plan seems to keep the system locked to a low frequency when running on battery.

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Does anyone know if Yoga 11S can be upgraded to suport dual band?

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I just picked up an 11s with Haswell from Best Buy. I really want to like it and willing to fight to make it work the best it can, at this moment, it just isn't performing where it needs to. I am not asking much from it. I do online marketing, so I live in a web browser. Google Chrome is my choice.  Ever since I picked it up, it's had poor browser page load times. Some pages work fine, but my main page, Google Adwords, is just horrific and takes 10-15 seconds to load a client's campaign.  I don't expect the same performance as my more powerful desktop machine, but I do expect it to be better than my 2nd gen Core i3 laptop that it's replacing. Sitting side by side, the old laptop always loads way ahead. I have tried several wifi connections and get similar performance. Internet Explorer and Firefox give very similar performance lags. Installed the most up to date wifi drivers. I have disabled DPTF, uninstalled just about ever piece of software I feel comfortable uninstalling, nothing really changes it. I've done internet speed tests and get similar numbers I would get on my desktop or other laptop and connection strengths will all be similar.  The next step will be installing Windows 8 from scratch, which I am willing to do if anyone feels it may actually help. Anyone else experience similar lags and find fixes? Thanks,-Cameron 

Answer:Yoga 11s (Haswell) Poor Browser Performance

Did you try other programs? Are they all slow?You can try some benchmark softwares, and try to figure out what is going on.

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Intel i7 4790K 4.0Ghz Haswell Procssor
Gigabyte Gamer 3 motherboard
Coolermaster Hyper T4 heatsink
Windows 8.1 64 Bit / 16MB memory
Whilst running normal applications/Windows etc. the processor idles at around 31-35C. If I run the Intel diagnostic tool it passes no problem and temp goes up to around 60c.
If I run IntelBurnTest + Gigabyte fan calibration, the temp goes up to 100C and I get alarms beeping. My dad has the exact same setup and it occurs on his machine also, so I can rule out the motherboard / CPU being faulty.
Any ideas please...

Answer:Intel i7 4790K Haswell overheating problems

Any airflow restrictions? Dust in the fan screens, that kind of thing

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I was wondering if there were any clues or news about the new intel haswell prices and variety range any clue on if the prices will be cheaper then those steep prices of sandy and ivy bridge in the begining which were hell alot
 

Answer:Any pricing info on Intel's Haswell CPUs?

I very much doubt Intel will change their pricing structure, expect Haswell to come in at similar price points but with IPC improvements, lower power consumption and better integrated GPU.

I wouldn't call SB/IB expensive, given their performance they are reasonably priced compared to the competition. The i7 chips with Hyperthreading and the six core SB-E ones are a bit pricier but normal computer users and gamers won't need that sort of power. 1155 motherboard are around the same price as AM3+ ones too.
 

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Hey, I build systems as a hobby and not very often. I just built a Haswell i5 HTPC with a 120GB Crucial SSD, 1 TB drive for media, 8 GB RAM and a GTX 950. I TRY to use the system for browsing, videos and some light gaming on our TV.

The bottom line is that even with almost nothing installed on the system the comp suffers from horrible lag problems.

I have loaded all of the latest drivers for all components including the MB and vid card. Within a few days of conception the system really bogs down ... and I mean really badly. A mouse click might not be fulfilled for up to 10 or more seconds after the click. I have Avast and Malwarebytes loaded and have no hits on either.
I am ready to start from scratch and reload everything bit by bit but was hoping that someone might have had a similar situation occur ... and provide a roadmap to fix it.

Thank you and please ask any questions if you need more info.
 

Answer:Horrible lag on newly built Haswell system - please advise

What OS are you using?

Have you checked system resource usage when this occurs?
 

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I just updated to the new BIOS that came out today (3/27/2015) Anyone know what's new?  Edward

Answer:New Yoga 2 Pro BIOS for HASWELL chips-----76CN42WW---What's changed?

Good day.
 
The only thing explicitly mentioned in the readme file: http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/76cn42ww.txt
is a security fix(s) for the "Intel UEFI module".
 
Not much to go on, but it's better than nothing.
 
Regards.

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Hello ladies and gentlemen, I'm searching to understand the reasons behind certain behavior of my L440 laptop given the following hardware and software: Hardware: L440 model number 20AS-SOR100 with an i5-4300M Haswell CPU, 8 Gb RAM, Corsair Force GT 120 Gb SSD (installed the SSD myself to replace the stock HGST drive), AUO Full HD IPS panel, fingerprint reader, built-in web camera, non-backlit keyboard, and a built-in DVD drive.Software: Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit, CPUID HW Monitor 1.25.0 used to monitor CPU voltages and temperature.The phenomenon in question is this:When on battery, with the power adapter _not_ plugged in, the Uncore power stays at 3.0 ? 3.5 watts at idle, and up to 4 watts when in a Skype video call. This has the consequence that the fan stays idle most of the time, with rare spin-ups. However, when I plug in the power adapter, regardless if the removable battery is attached or not, Uncore power skyrockets to over 6 watts immediately, with over 7 watts under load such as a Skype call etc. The difference is about 3 watts, with the same amount of load on the CPU (i.e. identical tasks being performed.)As far as the Windows power plans go, this behavior takes place even when on the ?Energy saver? plan. I?ve gone through all the advanced power plan settings and they are set to maximum power saving, lowest usage possible, etc. In particular, I?ve been sure to check both the PCI power management combo and the CPU power management combo, ... Read more

Answer:Haswell Uncore Power Usage with Lenovo L440

Bump. I'd like to see a comment by a Lenovo rep, if possible. Thank you.

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Hello everyone willing to read this!

I've been getting this >
"The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

This seemed to start happening after getting new motherboard, cpu, videocard and ram. These events only seem to log when I turn on my computer from a cold boot.

I did a clean install the other day with no drivers installed and still got the Kernel-Power critical error in my event log.

For the first time last night, I got BSOD while I was talking on Google+ and just browsing the web. Now that this issue is affecting my computer while I'm using it, I'd really like to fix this issue with someones help.

BugcheckCode
126


BugcheckParameter1
0xffffffffc0000005


BugcheckParameter2
0xfffff800034e979e


BugcheckParameter3
0xfffff880009a98d8


BugcheckParameter4
0xfffff880009a9110


SleepInProgress
0


PowerButtonTimestamp
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BootAppStatus
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I've attached my Diagnostic folder per the directions. Thanks for reading and I appreciate your help.

Thank you
JJStewart

Answer:Kernel-Power 41 (63) BSOD after recent Haswell upgrade

Event ID 41 is an error that says Windows doesn't know why it shut down. Most frequently they are due to hardware issues (to include overheating). As I've seen connection issues cause BSOD's, my first suggestion will be to double/triple check all connections to ensure that they are firmly connected (using the appropriate ant-static precautions).

Also, use this free tool to monitor the system temps: HWMonitor CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

Only 48 Windows Updates installed. Most systems have 66 or more. Please visit Windows Update and get ALL available updates (it may take several trips to get them all).

You have 3 hard drives. What is the make/model/wattage and age of your Power Supply?

SSD's were temperamental when they first came out, but their reliability has improved greatly over the last year or two. There are 2 things that MUST be checked on systems with BSOD's and SSD's:




1) That the SSD firmware is the latest available for the SSD
2) That the storage controller drivers on the motherboard are the most recent. They must date from late 2012 or later. This is ALL controllers, not just the one that the SSD is attached to.



Your Intel RAID storage driver (iaStorV.sys) dates from before mid-2013 (actually from 2011) and should be updated. Try this driver (I got this link on 10 Jul 2013):
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...ST%29&lang=eng
Use the SetupRST.exe file - the other 2 are the "... Read more

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Insprion 15 3000 laptop, windows 10 home, 8GB. 

While trying to solve the sleep, no sleep problem after win10 upgrade,  I tried to install the 
firmware update recommend in  Haswell ME FW v9.5.55.1948 update.
The file downloaded, I ran it and now I'm stuck on 4% install for the past hour. see text below.
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C:\Users\William\AppData\Local\Temp\7zS9E28.tmp>echo offMatch
---------- VER.TXTMicrosoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]========Step1==============
Intel (R) Firmware Update Utility Version: 9.5.14.1724Copyright (C) 2007 - 2013, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
Communication Mode: MEIChecking firmware parameters...
Warning: Do not exit the process or power off the machine before the firmware update process ends.Sending the update image to FW for verification: [ 4% ]
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Can anyone help me here? The update is not running according to TaskManager. 
I'm afraid to let the system sleep and I don't want to shutdown the system.

Thanks

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guys i have a lenovo yoga 2 with haswell i5-4202y, HD4200, and neither the Audio driver for the device [conexant... very buggy drivers] nor the Intel install package result in a HDMI Audio Device being installed.
At one time, I think it was under Windows 8.1, it had such. Now, no such luck.

I just downloaded and installed a relatively new driver package from Intel dated 8/12, but it still did not install HDMI device even though the log shows otherwise [the Intel log I mean.]

Regular audio via speakers and/or headphone jack works ok.

any way to force the install?

Answer:Haswell HD4200 - no HDMI driver - how to force install?

HD4200 a AMD/ATI your Video adapter ? If so issue with Windows 10 drivers i saw, meaning no update for this legacy card.

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Hi there I just recently updated my laptop (Acer aspire v5-573p) to windows 10. Everything went well apart from the fact I couldn't detect my second monitor, I could duplicate the monitor, but I can't extend the monitor which was possible in windows 8.1.  Anyway, I found a VGA (intel) adapter for my computers intel's HD4400 graphics integrated graphics card. The readme contained in the driver states that it only supports Braswell processors. It refuses to install on my Haswell processor. I cannot find any acer specific windows 10 display drivers for a Haswell processor in spite of my laptop being listed on the supported devices list. If anyone knows of a solution I would be very grateful.My two monitors are useless without a driver to run them   Thanks in advance, Regards Hayden













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Answer:Haswell driver for W10 - Acer aspire v573p 9899

Hey mate, thank you for your suggestion! Sorry, I've been meaning to get back to you but I've been a bit busy. I had previously tried your suggestion but I thought I would give it another try tonight. Nothing changed, however, I did stumble upon the solution !!! For anyone with the same issue, don't bother going to the "windows display settings" to detect your other monitor, instead ensure you have the driver that Microsoft assigns (well at least in my case it worked), then right click anywhere on the desktop where you should see the driver options for the display. Mine looked like and blue & yellow intel symbol. Then all you need to do is select hdtv + inbuilt monitor in the few options provided. Sorry, I'm typing this on a Linux distro and cannot remember exactly all the option. It's fairly intuitive once you've found that menu.I had this issue resolved within 20 seconds on Linux, it took at least 5 hours on windows! eeek Anyway thanks again for your help!RegardsHayden 

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FIrst off, gotta say this device is amazing!  No issues updating to 8.1 like others I've read with one exception, there's a memory leak associated with the audiodg.exe and it's driving me nuts.  If I roll back to the driver on the (D partion then there's no leak but the volume controls don't quite work right.  Audiodg.exe works it's way up to well over 150mb of memory and never drops back down without a reboot.  For example:  fresh reboot audiodg uses 0-2.5mb, then open the volume slider and click on it so it makes a ding and the memory usage jumps by .5mb per click.  As far as I can tell audiodg.exe memory usage goes up endlessly as I click.  This didn't happen when I rolled back the driver, but it had other problems.  Also, still has a memory leak with all effects disabled.  Other questions: Does the Yoga 11s with the haswell process support upto 16gb or only 8gb of memory like the first 11s?If so how many slots are there?  I've read about the upgrade and it seems everybody only goes with one 8gb stick but doesn't mention how many slots there are available. Lastly, why no love on the Lenovo website for the new Yoga 11s with 4210y from bestbuy?  It's kinda difficult to track down info on this particular model. Thanks in advance for any help with the issues...





Lenovo Yoga 11s Haswell

Answer:Yoga 11s (haswell) audiodg.exe memory leak... and other questions

I also get this on a T540p 20BE-CT01WW running updated Windows 8.1 with Realtek High Definition Audio driver version 6.0.1.7005 (dated 2013-07-31). Whenever I change the volume using the mouse so that Windows makes a ding sound, audiodg.exe?s memory consumption increases by about 0.5MB. After 1 week without a reboot, my audiodg.exe process?s ?Memory (private working set)? as reported by Task Manager is 466,420K. The workaround people give of restarting audiosrv for this problem is a workaround, not the solution.

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Hello ,I would like to point a question if ACER ASPIRE R7-371T-50V5 ie. i5-4210 /8G RAM/ 128 SSD Intel Haswell chipset is compatiblewith the newest 4x ePCI SSD disk drives like SAMSUNG 950 PRO 4x ePCI NVM drives:http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/ssd950pro/overview.htm...http://www.anandtech.com/show/9396/samsung-sm951-nvme-256gb-pcie-ssd-review Thanks for replymatis2u 

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Haswell Real World Performance: DDR3-1600 is Not Enough





The prevailing wisdom in the enthusiast community has been, for generations, that DDR3-1600 is the sweet spot and that faster memory offers at best extremely limited performance improvement and that at worst, it?s snake oil. There?s an element of truth to that; AMD?s Bulldozer architecture and its derivatives see arguably minimal benefit from faster memory, and Ivy Bridge and its predecessors actually were just fine at DDR3-1600. So the idea that the paradigm might have shifted is tough to swallow because it goes against wisdom that?s been ingrained for years, a veritable lifetime in our industry.
Except that it has. DDR3-1600 is quite simply no longer enough for modern chips outside of Ivy Bridge-E and Vishera. That Kaveri benefits from faster memory (at least on the GPU side) is a foregone conclusion that was confirmed by our testing. AnandTech already exhaustively detailed performance scaling with different memory speeds on Haswell, and I?ve studied the effect of memory speed on Battlefield 4?s performance. Between our work and AnandTech?s extremely thorough research, you?d think there would finally be a pervasive understanding of the benefit of faster memory on Haswell, but that hasn?t been the case.
I originally went into this testing specifically trying to determine whether or not overclocking would increase the strain enough on Haswell?s memory controller to justify higher speed memory... Read more

Answer:Haswell Real World Performance: DDR3-1600 is Not Enough

Excellent approach,real-life tests,astonishing results.A must-read for "t(h)inkerers"...

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Hey everyone, so I went into Best Buy yesterday to buy a Surface Pro 2. When I got there, I saw that they had the Lenovo Yoga 11S on sale for $749.99, and guess what! It had the Intel Core i5-4210Y Haswell instead of the i3 that I've seen it with before. The only places I see that have this version of the laptop is Best Buy and Amazon (except its $879.99 at Amazon). Here are the basic specs:4th Gen Intel CoreTM i5-4210Y processor (3MB L3 cache and 1.4GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 1.9GHz) / 4GB DDR3L memory / 128GB solid state drive11.6" LED high-definition widescreen 10-point capacitive multitouch-screen display with IPS technology (1366 x 768 resolution) / Intel HD Graphics 4200 / 360 convertible design / 4-cell lithium-polymerBuilt-in webcam (720p resolution) / 2-in-1 digital media reader / 1 USB 3.0 port and 1 USB 2.0 port / HDMI Port / Optical Drive not includedBuilt-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n) / Bluetooth 4.0 interface / Weighs only 3 lbs. and measures just 0.7" thin
So far its running beautifully, and the battery has been great as well (although I've only had it for a day).
I'm still a little torn though, I went in fully confident to buy a surface pro 2, and came out with this. It was about a hundred cheaper and had the 128gb ssd. Did I make the right choice?

Answer:The Lenovo Yoga 11S with Intel Core i5-4210Y Haswell

The entire Yoga line has had numerous hinge/display issues, one of which I ran into with the older model of this Yoga. I really like what it can do, but with the few Lenovo items I have bought, quality has been an issue (non-thinkpad devices).
Otherwise, Surface Pro 2 will be better if you primarily use it as a tablet, while Yoga has the advantage if mostly used as a laptop.

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Does anyone know when Lenovo will make Skylake available in the W550S (or whatever it calls the successor model)... I'd like to buy one! Thanks. 

Answer:W550S with Skylake?

Hi. There won't be a W-series successor to the W550s as the workstations are now called P-series. But I am fairly certain that we'll see a successor to the W550s, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Cheers!

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Question: Skylake processors

Hi looking to buy a new computer but would like to stay on Windows 7
So decided to avoid the 7th gen. I7

As I would like to keep automatic updates rather than manually having to find patches.
But after further Reading find the sky Lake. Supported updates only work on Pacific makes and models according to the windows end of life list.
But I also have a read it does work on some not on the list I am very confused what information is correct and what is correct and what isn't don't really want to spend £1,000 on a possibility

Was looking to buy MSI GE62 6QL Apache (9S7-16J532-210)

Thanks damien
 

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Ive read that Lga1151 usb 2.0 port will not work on windows 7 during installation. So it means it will only work on usb3.0 during installing OS.

Ive also read that you can only install it using dvd drive.

My question is that after installing win7 using dvd drive. Will the usb 2.0 work after?

Answer:Windows 7 on skylake CPU

Most motherboard manufacturers have a workaround for the USB 2.0 issue--such as a BIOS setting or a way to inject the proper drivers into a Windows 7 ISO.

It's not true that you can install only from a DVD. I did not use a DVD when I rebuilt 2 months ago.

Yes, your USB 2.0 ports will work later.

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Ive read that Lga1151 usb 2.0 port will not work on windows 7 during installation. So it means it will only work on usb3.0 during installing OS.

Ive also read that you can only install it using dvd drive.

My question is that after installing win7 using dvd drive. Will the usb 2.0 work after?

Answer:Windows 7 on skylake CPU

Most motherboard manufacturers have a workaround for the USB 2.0 issue--such as a BIOS setting or a way to inject the proper drivers into a Windows 7 ISO.

It's not true that you can install only from a DVD. I did not use a DVD when I rebuilt 2 months ago.

Yes, your USB 2.0 ports will work later.

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Hello there,I have described the same problem as here in the post:  LCD Panel Auto-Touch malfunction solution - Yoga 3-1470  https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/hnt/yoga_3_1470_lcd_autotouch.MOV but the patch does not work for me. Can anyone to customize the patch that works for me? My LCD Panel Harware ID is: MONITOR\LGD044F and Machine Type Model 80FL0001GEBest thanks in advanceGunnar

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So I recently bought a Dell XPS 15 9530 and well I wanted to see how it would do in gaming. It was doing well in most games until one day, I started getting fps drops that lasted a long time. The FPS would go from whatever it started with, an example being Watch Dogs with 50 fps on low settings, to 9 fps. Another example is CS:GO where I get 60 fps on highest settings, I cap it at 60, but after a few rounds it goes down to 15 fps. So I got NVIDIA Inspector to see what was wrong as many had said it was the GPU throttling and the clocks were 135 MHz for the GPU Clock and 405 MHz for the Memory Clock instead of the default 941 MHz for GPU and 2500 MHz for Memory. The temperature was around 75 degrees celsius at most so I don't think that is the problem. It is plugged into wall while playing and I have most programs closed down when playing.
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Also, I have my power plan set to 'High Performance'. The FPS drop does not last forever but lasts about 10-15 minutes and can either be resolved by restarting my laptop or, if I am lucky, restarting the game. It is quite annoying and I have been testing everything for about 2 weeks. I have tried re-installing BIOS, clean installation of drivers, used different programs like ThrottleStop, tried lowering the settings and none of these have worked.

Answer:What can I do about my FPS Drops/ GPU Throttling on Dell XPS 15 9530 'Haswell' Late 2013?

Hi ITSBOKKY
Thank you for reaching out to us!
For the issue that you are facing while using high graphic applications please do let me know if it is with any particular applications. If you are facing the issue with any particular application re-install the same and check for functionality. Kindly let me know the version of BIOS and the Video Driver installed so that I can assist you further.

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I am building a second computer for bedroom for basic use ..should i go with haswell pentium or celeron..is haswell pentium that much quicker than haswell celeron......:cool my main system has a i7 2700k with a 650ti boost and i game on that..:confused
 

Answer:building a second basic computer should i go with intel haswell celeron or pentium

Re: building a second basic computer should i go with intel haswell celeron or pentiu

Hi

What sort of money are you wishing to spend on the whole system?
What parts do you have already or spare you could use in the new PC?

What would basic* use be as it could be different to my basic use for instance, as this will give us an idea of what parts you may need or more so to your question on CPU choice?


*basic is that just general surfing, email, Office type apps, photo editing etc
 

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When I fold my Yoga 11s (Haswell) into tablet mode in Windows 10, the touch pad is not disabled and my fingers and legs can cause the mouse to activate and move around when I want to just be using the touch screen.  Am I missing something, or does the touchpad driver for the Yoga 11s (Haswell) not properly support Windows 10 when you fold the Yoga into a tablet?

Answer:Yoga 11s (Haswell) touch pad not disabled when in tablet mode in Windows 10

I had the same problem although mine included not automatically switching to tablet mode when folding the screen back. Ultimately I learned that I needed to download the Lenovo Transition driver. I don't have the link but if you search it you'll find it. That will clear everything up.  A file is installed called ymc.exe, which stands for yoga mode control. Check your task manager to see if you have it.

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I see that the new I7's are out and some information is being leaked on performance. I currently have a 3570K, with 16g ram and a GTX 970 video card. I was waffling on upgrading to an entirely new system next year (2016) but wanted to wait and see if the prices come down or if NEW chips were decidedly better.

Would anyone like to chime in if they have first hand experience on the 5930K vrs the newer 6700K?

Price and cost are not really a deciding factor in this issue. I was going to migrate from an I5 to an I7 an thought that the 5930K was a significant better chip and longer term investment (compared to my I5).
 

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Wasn't sure what section for this, feel free to move to the appropriate sub forum.

Ok, I'm trying to install windows 7 x64 onto an ssd via a usb drive packaged with Gigabyte's USB drivers needed for the Intel 100 motherboards. Tools and procedure located here:

GIGABYTE Tech Daily: Having Trouble Installing Windows 7 By USB With Your GIGABYTE 100 Series Motherboard?

I am able to boot with the drive into the Windows install process, however, when I go to select my partitioned disk and hit next to begin copying files, I get a pop up that displays this error:

"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk has an MBR partition table. On EFI systems, Windows can only be installed to GPT disks."

Now, I specifically partitioned the disk using Shift F10 and Diskpart because I do not want the 100 MB System Reserved partition for Bitlocker (or whatever) (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html) And I have done this multiple times over the years re-installing Windows 7 (when installing from the dvd). But it's not working here.

If I go back into Diskpart and try to convert to GPT, I first have to wipe the drive with the 'clean' command, which results in an unallocated disk to install onto, which I don't want. So after typing convert gpt, I then type 'create part primary', and then 'format fs=ntfs quick', and finally, 'assign', then go back and refresh the disk in the prompt, the MBR error is no longer there. But when I hit Next to... Read more

Answer:Need help installing W7 onto my new Skylake system

I also have a Gigabyte Skylake MB.
I suppose you already added the USB 3 and SATA drivers into the installation disk.
I've created a tutorial to do so. Recommend you to read as the Gigabyte tool doesn't install the drivers into the Win PE (for maintenance) and to the installation.
Create a Windows 7 USB flash installation with new drives for new MB's

First of all, on BIOS you must set:
Secure boot = Other OS
CSM = UEFI

Boot your installation disk under UEFI (press F12 at POST beep and choose UEFI mode)
Win 7 64 UEFI mode has at least 3 partitions:
100M Fat 32 UEFI for the boot loader.
120 M raw for MSR
a large NTFS for C: and Windows
The way you are creating partitions with Diskpart will create Legacy MBR not GPT UEFI disk.
Let Windows create them for you. The 120 M raw for MSR will be created, but it's only 0.1% of the disk (or less).
Just go advanced, delete all partitions, create new (will create the 3) and install at the big one.
As you're installing on a SSD, use Kari tutorial (sysprep) to move \Users to the HDD.
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation
I do have the Relocate.xml if you need.

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Hello all,
 
I am seriously racking my brain on this one.  I have tried just about everything that I can find and think of to get this to work.  Now I have two different models of Lenovo one is a desktop and one is a laptop. 
 
Laptop: Lenovo thinkpad E560 i5 6200u 4GB ram 500GB hdd. https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E560-20EV-15.6in-Core-i5-6200U-4-GB-RAM-500-GB-HDD/3890879.aspx?pfm=srh
Desktop: Lenovo thinkpad m900 Tiny i5 6500t 4GB ram 500GB hdd https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M900-10FM-Core-i5-6500T-2.5-GHz-4-GB-500-GB/3902931.aspx?enkwrd=10FM0007US&pfm=srh
 
Here is my issue.  I have a custom image for the place that I work at, that is installed on a bootable usb created from rufus.  I know this has not been corrupted because it works on older systems without any issue.  When I load this image on either machine I can get past the section where you chose the language and time ect.  Then it has a big button to install windows 7, after that point I get the message "A required cd/dvd drive device driver is missing.  If you have a drive floppy disk, cd, dvd, or usb flash please insert now.  
 
I have tried everything from uefi booting enable, legacy boot enable.  There is even a usb emulation on the desktop model, the keyboard and mouse did not work without it when trying to pick the language and time.
 
The only thing that I have not been able to try is a ... Read more

Answer:Lenovo Skylake and Windows 7

I don't think its an Intel or MS problem, not sure why you think it is an Intel one... I'm just going off the top of my head here though. If it is a USB installer from work... its possible that it is a network installer and goes out to a network share and grabs the .iso file it needs. Then there is also the question of why you are installing Windows from work on your personal machine. But that is my security coming out.. I assume you have a legitimate reason/approval to do so.

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Trying to install either win7, 8 and 10 onto a new build.

Motherboard = Gygabyte Z170 Gaming K3 (Skylake platform)

No, reading a good few websites i need to add an updated set of drivers to either the USB stick when creating an boot usb media

or i believe win 10 has these already in the setup files? (can somebody confirm?)

anyway, no matter what i've tried, i can't get any OS to see the HDD
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Will there be a Skylake for the 3rd Gen Model before the year end.  Also how much battery improvement will there be with the new processor?  The X1 needs serious battery improvement.  It should at least hold 10 hours of nonstop use (not idle).  Mac Air does a fantastic job with their battery and the capacity of recharge cycles.  

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Wasn't sure what section for this, feel free to move to the appropriate sub forum.

Ok, I'm trying to install windows 7 x64 onto an ssd via a usb drive packaged with Gigabyte's USB drivers needed for the Intel 100 motherboards. Tools and procedure located here:

GIGABYTE Tech Daily: Having Trouble Installing Windows 7 By USB With Your GIGABYTE 100 Series Motherboard?

I am able to boot with the drive into the Windows install process, however, when I go to select my partitioned disk and hit next to begin copying files, I get a pop up that displays this error:

"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. The selected disk has an MBR partition table. On EFI systems, Windows can only be installed to GPT disks."

Now, I specifically partitioned the disk using Shift F10 and Diskpart because I do not want the 100 MB System Reserved partition for Bitlocker (or whatever) (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ndows-7-a.html) And I have done this multiple times over the years re-installing Windows 7 (when installing from the dvd). But it's not working here.

If I go back into Diskpart and try to convert to GPT, I first have to wipe the drive with the 'clean' command, which results in an unallocated disk to install onto, which I don't want. So after typing convert gpt, I then type 'create part primary', and then 'format fs=ntfs quick', and finally, 'assign', then go back and refresh the disk in the prompt, the MBR error is no longer there. But when I hit Next to... Read more

Answer:Need help installing W7 onto my new Skylake system

I also have a Gigabyte Skylake MB.
I suppose you already added the USB 3 and SATA drivers into the installation disk.
I've created a tutorial to do so. Recommend you to read as the Gigabyte tool doesn't install the drivers into the Win PE (for maintenance) and to the installation.
Create a Windows 7 USB flash installation with new drives for new MB's

First of all, on BIOS you must set:
Secure boot = Other OS
CSM = UEFI

Boot your installation disk under UEFI (press F12 at POST beep and choose UEFI mode)
Win 7 64 UEFI mode has at least 3 partitions:
100M Fat 32 UEFI for the boot loader.
120 M raw for MSR
a large NTFS for C: and Windows
The way you are creating partitions with Diskpart will create Legacy MBR not GPT UEFI disk.
Let Windows create them for you. The 120 M raw for MSR will be created, but it's only 0.1% of the disk (or less).
Just go advanced, delete all partitions, create new (will create the 3) and install at the big one.
As you're installing on a SSD, use Kari tutorial (sysprep) to move \Users to the HDD.
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation
I do have the Relocate.xml if you need.

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So, I work in an enterprise environnent and we have very specific software regarding some VERY specific work we do. All machines are running windows 7. I received word that new machines won't even support Windows 7. Dell said, the chipset, won't even support Windows 7.

Which, given our history here seems unheard of for a 2 year old OS to permanently remove the older OS. After some digging I found the following:

Windows 10 Embracing Silicon Innovation

"Windows 10 will be the only supported Windows platform on Intel?s upcoming ?Kaby Lake? silicon, Qualcomm?s upcoming ?8996? silicon, and AMD?s upcoming ?Bristol Ridge? silicon."

Ugh...

This caught me off guard. The article details pretty much a support drop off time of June 17, 2017.


 

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So back in June I purchased a mostly specced out Spectre x360 with 3 years of HP Total Care Support. Do you guys think HP might let me trade for the newer one with Skylake via warranty claim since the update is so incremental and well within the life cycle of the early 2015 model? It kind of really sucks that they released a model with Skylake so soon after I purchased mine and a lot of the benefits like battery life are huge for me since I'm rarely near an electric outlet (I got a custom made Spectre with the i7, 8gb of RAM, and 512Gb of SSD, but went with the 1080p display for battery life).
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Answer:Spectre x360 w/ Skylake

Originally Posted by Mason Sell Do you guys think HP might let me trade for the newer one with Skylake via warranty claim I am not sure they would do that, but why don't you call them and ask? Spectre x360 with broadwell is already an amazing machine. after a rigorous research i settled to buy spectre x360 when it was first released but then i knew that skylake will be available at the end of this year. so i waited for skylake. although there wont be much of performance difference in U series of skylake some improvement is always a plus. so i know how you feel. it is really a bummer to see the next gen machine is just released when you have just bought an old one. but this is how it goes in electronics. If you are happy with the machine and feel that it will be future proof for what you do i would say to carry on with this as long as you want. but if you feel disappointed, and regretting you should have waited for skylake then just exchange it/ sell it as soon as possible and buy the new one and be happy.

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I have Nitro VN7 592G with i7 Skylake CPU. I'm asking because of recently discoverd Skylake bug which causes random restarts and data corruption.Is is feasible to disable Hyperthreading in BIOS for this model?If not, when proper fix should be expected?

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