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After Shrink Volume,drives become 'Simple Volume' & Windows 7 can't Load

Question: After Shrink Volume,drives become 'Simple Volume' & Windows 7 can't Load

My Windows 7 was installed in Drive C: in Primary partition.

I only have another drive D:, which is also a Primary partition and 200GB in size.

I need to create another drive. So, I use 'Shrink Volume' on Drive D: and free 30GB.

Then 30GB become free space and when I right click on that, I choose to 'Simple Volume' and then format it as NTFS and assign the drive letter E:. All of a sudden after I did that, all the partitions(C: and D now no longer say "Primary Partition". The blue color on top of the partitions also changed to a yellow/brownish color. My guess is that they have been converted to a Simple Volume too.

Well, then I just restart my PC and astonished that my windows 7 can't load. Only a blank screen come ahead to me. No error message given.

I use my Windows 7 DVD and in repair windows section, I use command line and by 'diskpart', i found, my all partition (C: and D: and E present their and there file system is: 'NTFS' and Type is "Simple". No drive there marked as a 'System' or 'boot'.

What should I do now, to recover my Windows 7?

Any kind of help will be appreciated. Thanks.

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Preferred Solution: After Shrink Volume,drives become 'Simple Volume' & Windows 7 can't Load

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wondering if this is a limitation of having 4 primary partitions.

my lenovo came with 4 primary partitions (all tagged with dark blue color in diskmgmt):
200mb hidden system
650gb OS

I can shrink the 650gb by say 300gb, and it will make a 350gb unallocated partition.
If i try to create a new simple volume from the 350gb, disk mgmt throws errors saying 'not enough space to complete operation'
please explain to me, having 4 existing primary partitions does not allow creating any type of additional new partition (logical or extended) ?

Can I retag one of the primary partitions as extended using something like ptedit, and then will that allow me to create more logical partitions?

Answer:4 primary partitions. Shrink works. But can't create new simple volume

Hello Link,

You will not be able to create another primary partition since you already have the limit of 4. However, you could use METHOD TWO in the tutorial below to create a logical partition with the unallocated space.

Partition / Extended : Logical Drives

Hope this helps,

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hi i would like to ask you how to shrink volume and then create new volume so that it will convert from basic to dynamic. is there any method in windows 10 thnx i will wait for your reply.

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How do I change my System Reserved and C Drives back to blue (primary volume)?

Answer:System Reserved and (C:) Drives are Green (Simple Volume)


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os win xp home edition,500 GB hard disk, at present i hve only single drive c:, need more partitions, but cannot find shrink volume option while right clicking on c in disk can i proceed

Answer:cant find shrink volume in windows xp

You cannot alter the C drive from within.To alter the partition structure of the disk you will need a partitioning tool such as Partition Magic run on a bootable CD.I do not particularly recommend that tool over others that are available since I have no hands-on experience with any of them. They all however come with this warning.Back up all your important files to an external location before you do anything, and test the backup. Then be prepared to re-install from scratch as altering your operating system partition carries a significant risk.If it were me doing it I would wipe the drive completely and then create new partitions of whatever size required, then do a fresh clean install of the operating system.Goin' Fishin' (Some day)

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I have a Laptop with OS Win7 Ultimate 32 bit,in which i have 320 GB hard disk with only one partion C i want to shrink this partition when i try to shrink this partition it is not shrinking

Answer:Shrink Volume C not working in Windows 7

The ?shrink? can only decrease the partition size down to the first unmovable/locked system file. If you?re running System Restore, you can get round this by temporarily turning it off, do the Shrink and turn it back on. Running a defragmentation may also move some of the ?unmovable? files.

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Hi all,

I am trying to dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows 10 on my computer. I currently have Windows 10 installed and am trying to partition(split) my D drive to create a new drive for Ubuntu. My D drive currently has 100GB of free space. However, in Disk Management, only 4.85GB is showing up as "available shrink space." Therefore, I cannot make a new drive big enough to run Ubuntu on. Is there any way of getting around this? It might be helpful to know windows says "cannot shrink volume beyond the point where any removable files are located." The defragment and optimization tool doesn't help, I pressed "optimized" but nothing changes

Best, Kevin

Answer:Windows 10: cannot shrink volume (D drive)

The problem is that the MFT is sitting high up on the disk and disk management cannot move it. You have to use a program like Mini tool partition wizard.

Here is a little tutoirial

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I have a partition with Vista installed on it that is 140GB in size. Only 16GB is used.
I want to shrink the volume to about 110GB, but when I go into Disk Management, it does not allow me to shrink any of it.

I have defragged the partition and even reduced my page file, but it wouldn't let me shrink it to 110 even though I only use 16GB!!

How do I get around this to let me shrink what I want?

Or do I have to invest in a partitioning program?


Answer:Shrink A Volume In Windows Vista

I think the partitioning tool that comes with Vista is OK for re-sizing the partition before installing the OS.

Once the OS has been installed, I think you'll need a third party partitioning tool.

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Windows Disk Management utility has provided Extend / Shrink volume support.
I got to know that FSCTL_SHRINK_VOLUME ioctl is provided for supporting shrink volume feature.

I am interested to know what support is provided by File system driver and other
storage modules to achieve shrink volume feature.

Actually Linux does not have support for online shrink volume.
So interested to know what are the support provided by Windows storage stack.

Please share your ideas. please share materials / links regarding this.


Answer:Shrink volume support in Windows 7 Disk Management

Most Partition Tools under Linux and Windows allow expanding and shrinking of partitions.

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Windows Disk Management hangs when I hit Shrink Volume.
I have never had this problem before...
Plus this is a new computer, haha.
Any ideas guys?

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
HP p6823w

Thanks in advanced,

Answer:Windows Disk Management hangs when I hit Shrink Volume.

Check whether the 'Disk Defragmenter' service is set to 'manual'. If not, set it to manual.

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Windows Disk Management utility has provided Extend / Shrink volume support. I got to know that FSCTL_SHRINK_VOLUME ioctl and other APIs are provided for supporting shrink volume feature.

I am interested to know what support is provided by File system driver and other storage modules to achieve shrink volume feature.

Actually Linux does not have support for online shrink volume.
So interested to know what are the support provided by Windows storage stack.

Please share your ideas and related links/documents.


Answer:Shrink volume support in Windows 7 Disk Management

the second pink box in the link explains a little bit about the restrictions of shrinking a volume: Partition or Volume - Shrink - Windows 7 Forums

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I cancelled the volume shrink operation while it was in progress. Now I cannot find my other 300+ GB or disk space. When I go to my computer it says I have only 299GB out of 600GB. How do I reclaim my lost disk space?

The first pic lists my drives and partitions.
The second pic lists the available disk space. As shown the total space of the drive is approx 600GB but there is only 299GB available.

Answer:Missing hdd space after cancelled volume shrink in Windows

Show Partition Wizard screenshot as well please.

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Question: Shrink Volume

My HDD partitions currently look like this:I would like to shrink the Vista partition and add the space onto the XP partition.I know Vista has it's own partition software 'Shrink volume'.Firstly I assume that this shrink volume can do what I want to do, can it? Secondly if I do this then is there any chance of me losing data from any part of my hard drive? There's always people who mess up partitions, but ignoring them, should this be a straight forward risk-free process?Thanks.

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I've installed a new hard disk drive 750GB and trying to resize the volumes using disk management but the resizing is in MB I can't just simply put the size in GB.

C:/System Files (40GB)
D:/Documents And Settings (80GB)
E:/Personal Files (300GB)
F:/Backup (300GB)

Answer:Shrink Volume In GB Instead of MB

Yeah, it uses MB. Ten GB is Ten Thousand MB. You have to adjust your thinking to allow for the difference. Do some experimentation with the control and you should get the hang of it.

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Question: Shrink OS Volume

I want to shrink the OS partition on my internal drive. I'm getting tired of my Acronis backups taking two hours to complete. The size of the drive is 1TB, formatted NTFS. The first partition on the C Drive is labeled OEM (39MB) and I have no idea what it contains. The second partition is labeled Recovery(11.96GB) (System, Active, Primary). The third partition is labeled OS (794.23GB)(Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary). The fourth and final partition is my Acronis Secure Zone (125.29GB) (Primary). I don't back up either of my external drives, as both of them contain the same information so that if one of them takes a crap on me I have an exact duplicate on the other one.

I would like to reduce the OS partition to 150GB, allowing 50GB for the Shadow Copies. All my Windows Backups (full backup only, overwritten) go to one of my external drives. All my Acronis backups (full backup only, overwritten) go to each of the external drives and the Acronis Secure Zone. All my files (pictures, videos, music and copies of downloaded software) are stored on the external drives.

I attempted to shrink the OS partition (794.23GB). Once the drive was analyzed it showed:

Total size in shrink in MB: 813,292
Size of available shrink space in MB: 128,196
Total size after shrink in MB: 685,096

I don't understand why I cannot substantially shrink the OS volume beyond 128,196MB. I don't understand what type of immovable file(s) would prevent me from doing so but then again, I can't understand ... Read more

Answer:Shrink OS Volume

You'll likely need the Partition Wizard bootable CD to do your shrinking. I guess you have tried Windows Disk Management--it doesn't always allow you to shrink as much as you would like.

Get it here:

Free Download Magic Partition Manager Software - Partition Wizard Online

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My System contains two partitions...

As shown in above figure, my os partition size is 222 GB. Free space in OS partition is 85 GB. I want to Move 80 GB free space of OS partition to second Partion(F:) to do this, I tried to Shrink the OS volume. But size of available space for shrinking is only 707 MB.

But there is 85GB free space in my OS partion. why this occurs? How can i reach my goal? please help... i am waiting for your responses... Thanks

Answer:I cant shrink volume please help...

Sorry I cannot see the picture ... for some reason tinypic doesnt load for me

If your first disk (DISk0) contains less than four primary partitions, you can do the job using Partition Wizard Bootable CD . . For how to do it tutorial, follow the option three of the tutorial Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD , it will work for shrinking from the right side, too.

EDIT : If there are four primary partitions already, dont try it. First convert a non-system partition to logical (Partition wizard can do it), and then try the above. Sorry again that I cannot see the pic you posted .

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Hello everyone! I was trying to dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu and before i can do that i have to make a partition for it and i have a hard drive in my laptop that is over 220 GB big but when i go to create a partition it says the biggest i can make the partition is 6 GB!!! and i have a ton of free space. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated because no other site has helped.

Answer:Need Help With Shrink Volume!

If you are using a HDD, then the files could be fragmented. Try running windows disk defragment or try using defraggler.

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Hi,I want to shrink my hdd but I get this error:there's not enough space available to complete this operation.

Answer:Can't shrink volume

can you post a screenshot of your disk management service. ?

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Dear All,I have HP Pavilion DV6 Laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium.The Partition size of C:\ Driver was 400GB, So i shrink the volume now its 350 GB am unable to shrink it further because of some unmoveable system files.Please suggest some third party tool for this.Secondly, i have taken system image of C:\ Drive, Now, if i resize the C:\ Partion will that image work or not.Your suggestions will be highly appreciated....Thanks and regardsKaleem Ullah Bilal

Answer:How to shrink volume further..

I have shrunk Win7 to 20GB using EASEUS Partition Manager. You can resize the image after you restore it.

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I deleted all shadow copies, first via Disk Cleanup and then via vssadmin, all per your instructions. It didn't help. I then went in and disabled System protection. It didn't help either.

Disk manager still says I only have 462756 MB shrink space out of a total of 953867 MB (NTFS), leaving 491111 MB after shrinkage. That's not enough - I need to shrink the C volume to 96 GB, because I want to move to my empty RAID SSD (2 disks/mirror) with 107.13 GB (NTFS).

Can it be done?
(I assume the reason I cannot use Seagate's disk utility to execute the move is that it cannot move from a larger partition to a smaller, but it hasn't actually told me that - it just doesn't follow instructions.)


Answer:Still cannot shrink volume

Use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to Resize to desired size.

Any other partition manager - installed or boot CD - besides PW and Disk Mmgt can fail risking data loss.

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Does Shrinking My HD on "Disk Management" will affect my OS ? How can I turn it back to normal without Affecting my OS ?

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Hello.I want to shrink my volume,create a new partition so I can install windows xp on top of windows 7 and use em both using dual boot.
Is there any way I can fix this? Thank you!

Answer:Can't shrink volume [SSD]

Defrag your disk and try again.

Most XP programs can run under Win 7 on compatible mode. Did you try to install them under Win 7?

To install win XP you should do it on a Virtual Machine as you probably wont find the drivers for your system.

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Question: Shrink Volume

Hi Folks,

My image shows the present settings for my friends new pc.
How do I shrink the volume without affecting the pc to add one new partition only giving me a C:drive about 50-75gb.

Answer:Shrink Volume

In the past, I've tried to change partition sizes or add partitions. I've had to run Disc Defrag before Windows would allow the partition to be shrunk.

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Question: Shrink volume

I want to shrink volume c: and extend volume e: , but problem is that I can shrink volume c: just for 3879(3.5gb)

Is there any workaround?
I know there are some programs, but I never used any of them, so if there is easy one, please write it down.
pm: If anybody have problems with: "Volume disk manager wont start..", enable Disk Defragmenter too...

Answer:Shrink volume

You can shrink with Partition Wizard.

If you want to use the Windows disk management, try disabling hibernation and the page file and defrag.

To disable hibernation: Open a command prompt as admin and enter powercfg -h off.

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I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate RTM and I want to shrink ANY of the volumes so I can dual boot with another OS. The problem is, when I go control panel>administrative tools>create and format hard disk partitions, and I select a volume to shrink, I get the "Querying" box for a second and then right after, it says:

"The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it."

I know for a fact that virtual disk service is enabled and running. Any idea what it could be? I just need 10-20gb of space for this second partition that I want to create, and I have ample space. Any suggestions?

Answer:Cannot shrink volume

There are free tools available that should be able to accomplish this if you can't get 7 to do it.

One that comes to mind:

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I'm on W7 now, and wanted to have Windows XP too.
So I decided to make another partition and install XP on that.

But the problem is I can't shrink the volume, it will give me this error all the time.
The Virtual Disk service and everything connected to that is enabled and running.

^Thats the error.

Answer:Can't shrink volume.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hatashi

I'm on W7 now, and wanted to have Windows XP too.
So I decided to make another partition and install XP on that.

But the problem is I can't shrink the volume, it will give me this error all the time.
The Virtual Disk service and everything connected to that is enabled and running.

^Thats the error.

You cant shrink the OS partition from within itself. To shrink that you need a 3rd party app like Paragon disk suite

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I have a Seagate Free Agent GoFlex USB HDD 1.4TB which I have been using in the last 3-4 years for my backups. Presently I probably have about 300GB of backup data on it which I would prefer to keep

Four days ago I bought a new Asus K750JN laptop with windows 8.1x64 and as I just discovered to make an image of the OS (laptop came with no OS DVD) I must use a 16GB min USB. Furthermore it says that all data on the USB will be erased

I would have liked if possible to shrink the volume on my Seagate USB HDD to make two partitions: the root will be to copy my Asus OS and the other partition will be for my existing backups.

I assume that if I can shrink the Seagate existing volume I should be able to keep my existing data but if not I could transfer them to my desktop PC (long process but can be done)

I also assume the Asus utility which will copy the new OS to Seagate root partition will not erase the second partition

I could buy a 16 or 20GB new USB but since I have the large Seagate USB I think it will be waste of money

Any suggestions?

Answer:USB HDD Volume Shrink

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I have just migrated to Windows 7 and have a 1,000GB hard drive. I wish to have programmes on 'C' and data on a new partition.
I shrunk volume 'C' to 500GB using Windows 7 Disk Management and then tried to create a partition in the resulting space left but a dialogue box came up advising that there was not enough space to carry out the action. I tried then to specify a smaller amount than the vacant space but still received the same message,

What could be going wrong?

Answer:Windows 7 - Create simple volume???

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I'm not sure if this happened with 5.55, but with 5.56, when I hit the volume up or down on my keyboard to turn the sound down for everything, it turns down winamp's volume bar too. Sometimes I can move winamp's volume bar up and down and it won't even be working. What causes this? It's pretty annoying for the music to turn down twice as fast or winamp's volume bar to not even work at all.EDIT: Moved to a more appropriate forum

Answer:Volume keys turning down computer volume and winamp volume at the same time?


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Hi peeps,

I was looking to install Windows 10 preview as a dual boot option, so reading up online, it was suggested that I do a shrink of the volume to create ample space for Windows 10.

Anyway, I did this via Windows 7's diskmgmt. So I proceeded with the instructions. Before shrinking, my drive was 100GB in total capacity. However, afterwards, it is now only 75GB!

I've basically lost 25GB of my hard drive - what on earth just happened?

Any help would be really appreciated.


Answer:Shrink volume error

Nevermind, just realised the "missing" 25GB is actually an unallocated partition, which I need to create.

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I am trying to shrink my volume to create a new partition suitable to install a separate OS. Here is the deal:

My total hd capacity is 320GB with a total FREE space of 198GB.

According to disk management, the maximum I can shrink the volume by is 20mb.

Question: The is probably, most likely, due to large fragments of data written to the disk which is taking the 'continuous' space down to that 20MB number.

I've used both the Windows 7 defrag program as well as Defraggler and can't get that number higher. Are there any programs or recommendations you can offer up that will allow me to get the FREE continuous space to a few gigbytes, at least?


Thanks for any help out there...

Answer:Can't shrink volume by more than [email protected]#$

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Hi, everybody, iam new here in this forum. I hope that you can help me.

I have an Laptop, with Vista on it. But on local disk C: are 240 GB and in Local disk D: are 10 GB. I have red many Tutorials and i know how to shrink Local disk C:, and tu create another. I go to Computer Manager, click on Storage and than on Disk Manager, and than they apear the hard disks. I click on lacal disk C: with the right taste, and go to Shrink Volume, i got an window, but the problem is that in the window the SHRINK button is Grayed out. I red in some tutorials that need to Defragment the C: Drive, and i did it but it helped not. What can i do??? Please help me!!!!

Thnx a lot for your help

Answer:How to shrink Volume C: in Vista?

How to resize a partition in Windows Vista | Vista Rewired
Partition Magic
Partition Manager

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When i am using shrink volume option this error is prompting,"The volume you have selected to shrink may be corrupted .Use chkdsk to fix the corruption problem,and then try to shrink the volume." please help me what to do 

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Hi, a few weeks back, I had created another partition to install Win 8.1 on it. I created that Win 8.1 partition with 150GB. I would like to shrink the Win 7 partition and add more volume to the Win 8.1 partition. I checked out the disk management window and had shrunk the Win 7 partition, but it didn't let me add more volume to the Win 8.1 partition. Is this possible? I must be doing something wrong. Thanks

Answer:Want to shrink volume and add it to other partition.

Don't know that much about this stuff Blind man but try this program out it might help.

Best Free Partition Manager Freeware and free partition magic for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Vista and Windows XP 32 bit & 64 bit. MiniTool Free Partition Manager Software Home Edition.

This may be of interest too Partition or Volume - Shrink

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started with a 500 gig hard drive, was able to shrink it to half. My goal is a partition size of 100 gb. The entire contents of drive is less than 50 gb. I did away with the page file so as not to cause a problem as a none move able file. No hyber.sys file either.

So right now the size of the partition is about 238 gb, but when I try to shrink it further it tells me that it can only be shrank by 7 more megs. any suggestions

Thanks in advance

Answer:I am trying to shrink the volume size which contains the OS. win 7 64b

Welcome to Windows Seven Forums.

Windows 7's disk management is very basic in that it will only let you shrink a partition once, as you've just found out.

A far better bet is the Easeus Partition Wizard bootable CD: Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD

Download the ISO and burn the image to a blank CD.

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Hi,One of my hard disks contains Vista. It's a 250GB disk so I'd like to Shrink the volume to free up some space to make a Partition. However, when I use the shrink option, it says:Total size before: 229334 MBSize of available shrink: 78117 MBI want to leave enough space for Vista (15GB I believe?), other programs, and any other OS updates etc.I am surprised that I can only free up 78117 MB on a volume that is 77% free (176587 free MB's), however, I understand that this has something to do with unmovable files. If I decide to shrink by the maximum allowable, will that mean that there remains 151271 MB for Vista or programs etc or will the unmovable files etc impose limitations on the available space?Cheers

Answer:Shrink Volume on Vista

The shrink partition utility can only decrease the partition size down to the first unmovable/locked system file. To get round this, temporarily turn off System Restore, do the shrink and turn System Restore back on. Running a defrag may also move some of the ?unmovable? files. Alternatively, you can shrink partitions by running the diskpart command from the Vista DVD, which avoids the occurrence of locked files.

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Hey guys I just went a created an account on here because I have searched for hours and haven't found anything. And everytime it's something to do with people who have exceeded the maximum amount of partitions they can have which is 4. The problem is not this, I have no partitions on the selected drive AT ALL. I have about 105GB free of space and when I try to partition 25GB it says there isn't enough space available when there is! For some reason though I can get up to like 18GB and it works but if I go over that it just says no space?

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I really do hope someone can solve this problem asap. This drive is not my system drive, it's an extra I have in my pc and I run my OS on an SSD and have tried using 3rd party programs and have had no luck.

Thank you for reading and hopefully I could get some much needed help.

Answer:Cannot shrink volume, not enough available space when there is?

The problem is there's a system file that's unmovable on that partition. Most likely the MFT-mirror. Solution: Use Partition Wizard HOME to resize the partition. It's free!

Free download Magic Partition Manager Software, partition magic alternative, free partition magic, partition magic Windows 7 and server partition software - Partition Wizard Online

How to resize Partition for Windows Server 2000/2003/2008 or Windows XP/7/Vista with partition magic manager software? Move/Resize Partition Help.

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I'm wondering if i should shrink my volume (C:) with about 50gb, so i can use that space for Linux.

The harddrive is 500gb, and i've used 210gb, so.. I am wondering if there is any chance that i will lose data if i shrink the volume? Because i don't want to lose 210gb.

Answer:Shrink Volume Question.

If you shrink the volume using the Vista disk management you will not lose any data because Vista calculates and displays how much space you can safely shrink. Since you are using 210G of a 500G harddrive you can probably shrink it a lot more than 50G. The unallocated space will appear after your C partition and will need to be formatted before you can use it for anything.

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When I installed windows 7, I accidentally had my storage drives plugged in, so the system reserved partition went on a different drive than my OS boot drive. I'm trying to move it from the storage drive to my boot drive. I'm trying to shrink the volume of my boot drive to transfer the existing system reserved, but it says 0MB for the volume size. It has 17GB of free space. I'm only trying to make a 100MB partition. I ran CCleaner, Windows Error-checking, and Defraggler.

Disk Specs:

x1 OS boot drive (120GB SanDisk SSD)

x2 Storage drive (500GB WD)

Answer:Can't shrink volume of C:\ drive

If you download EaseUS Partition Master Home - EPM which is (FREE) and install it...

Download EASEUS Partition Master Home Edition - MajorGeeks

Withall normal drives in place...

Open/Run EPM and when the Disk map is opened - click on your C: drive > Choose resize and
DRAG the LEFT side towards the right... just over 100Mb > click OK

Right Click the 'empty' 100Mb and choose Create - choose PRIMARY NTFS > click OK
Right Click the 'empty 100Mb and choose Format > click OK
Right Click the new 100Mb partition and choose re-name > name it SYSTEM - click OK

So far nothing has happened you've only told the program what to do...

Now click the TICK on the top menu (Apply) - it will reboot the computer to carry out the tasks...

When Windows is running again...

Make sure all hidden and system files are visible (Tools > Folders menu)

Using Windows Explorer... Copy the contents of the 'wrong' system reserved files to the C: drive SYSTEM partition

Using EPM again - remove drive letter from SYSTEM (it will 'hide' it) > close EPM and -

With your WINDOWS Install DVD in the DVD Drive and selected as first boot - Restart the computer...

Do NOT Install Windows... do a Start up Repair... when it finishes... your computer should restart as normal.

You can then delete the D: Drive system reserved files partition AND expand the D drive to use those extra 100 Mb using EPM...

Hope this was helpful - I just had to do it myself - for the exact same reason as yourself... Read more

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Hello everyone!

I have a 1TB HDD. My D drive is almost full now and I want to make another big partition from C drive. My C has a total capacity of 570GB which is too much for just OS-supporting software.

I opened Disk Management and chose the option to shrink volume but I only had about 280GB available to shrink while the free space on my C is 455GB!

I read some tutorial about using Partition Wizard Boot CD to shrink larger space. In the tutorial (on sevenforums), I found that in order to use this method I must have 3 or less primary partition on my HDD. This is where the trouble arise. In Disk Management, I see that I have 5 partitions on my HDD, they are:

1. C drive
2. D drive
3. Healthy (EFI Recovery)
4. Healthy (Recovery)
5. Healthy (Recovery)

So I have 5 partitions on my HDD which I think will prevent me from using the Partition Wizard method! The 3 recovery drives is 100% free at the moment so I tried to delete those volumes but I can't. The options either didn't appear or appeared in grey when I right-click on the 3 recovery volumes.

Please help me If you can!

Thanks in advanced!

Answer:Space available to shrink volume is too low

Originally Posted by Kooplelele

I opened Disk Management and chose the option to shrink volume but I only had about 280GB available to shrink while the free space on my C is 455GB!

Windows Disk Management - You cannot shrink the disk volume down more than 50% of original size.

Originally Posted by Kooplelele

I read some tutorial about using Partition Wizard Boot CD to shrink larger space. In the tutorial (on sevenforums), I found that in order to use this method I must have 3 or less primary partition on my HDD. This is where the trouble arise.

Instructions are for MBR partition table. Your hard drive has a GPT partition table.

Here is info about UEFI Boot Mode (installing using the GPT partition style) and Legacy BIOS Boot Mode (installing using the MBR partition style): link

Originally Posted by Kooplelele

3. Healthy (EFI Recovery)
4. Healthy (Recovery)
5. Healthy (Recovery)

Windows does not start, if you delete the EFI System partition.

You can't Refresh or Reset, if you delete the recovery partitions.

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I have brought a new laptop running in Windows 7. When i try to make a New Simple Volume with disk management, i get the following errors.

" The operation you selected will convert the selected basic disk(s) to dynamic disk(s). If you convert the disk(s) to dynamic, you will not be able to start installed operating systems from any volume on the disk(s) (except the current boot volume). Are you sure you want to continue?"

I have tired to convert my Basic Disk to Dynamic disk, but when i right click, i cant find the options (i have the screenshot attached.)

please help i cant use my computer unless i have a separate volume.

Answer:Unable to make NEW SIMPLE VOLUME in Windows 7

Welcome to the forum,

You have 4 primary partitions, which is why you are having problems.

Have you made your recovery discs yet? Creating Recovery Discs or Saving a Recovery Image to a USB Flash Drive (Windows 7) - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

Do not convert your Disk to Dynamic!

If it was me, I would put that unallocated space back on C, make my recovery discs, then image the entire drive to an external drive so you have a safe return if your future partitioning attempts go south.

Once you have created your recovery discs and the image, you could delete one of the HP partitions so you can then create your desired partition or what most enthusiasts prefer a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7

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I set about creating a new simple volume on a brand new laptop today. You know - they come with one giant C: drive. We want a nice, manageable C: drive for imaging, about 75 - 80GB, but 100 or 125 would do.

Ran up against the "fixed files" limit on shrinking the volume - could only claim 225GB out of 488GB.

I'm wondering- could I (temporarily) turn off the page file, delete all restore points and turn off monitoring, and check for and delete any hibernation files - defrag - and gain some significant ground? Or is a third party partitioning program the only option, as Brink has stated in his tutorials? Has anyone tried this?

(I would like to clean install, but the owner is reluctant.)

Any advice or ideas are welcome.

Answer:Shrink Volume - Create Partition Q

Try shrinking again using free Partition Wizard bootable CD to "Resize." Partition Wizard.URL

The tool I use if System files still refuse to budge after defragging, turning off page file, restore points, is Perfect Disk 10 trial version to Offline Defrag>Rightclick on C: drive>Select System Files.

Always back up files and/or a System Image when using a 3rd party partition manager as they can fail during resizing, although we haven't had one fail yet in helping hundreds of these operations here.

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I just bought a new gateway with Win7 and a 2 TB harddrive. I wanted to partition the drive. I was following directions on how to shrink the C drive. I right clicked on the C drive in disk management and selected shrink volume. Then I clicked SHRINK without entering anything. I'm not sure if anything changed or not. I would like to get the C drive back like it was with 2 TB.

Answer:Solved: volume shrink undo

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I wanted to triple boot windows 10 with windows 7 and 8,
I clicked “manage” and right clicked c drive to shrink drive c to make a new drive.
Clicked shrink drive, a message said “cannot shrink drive as drive c is faulty,
use chkdsk to repair faults”
I ran chkdsk c: /f /x /r.
the problem is, it is “scanning and repairing drive c:” till it gets to 11%,
then it stops , it is not frozen as the circle of dots is revolving,
it just will not move on, it has been showing 11% all evening , all night, and all day.
I do not know how to stop checking drive c: it will not let me back into windows 8.1
I can still get into windows 7

Answer:faulty c drive will not shrink volume

W8 and W10 do not always fully shutdown (so they can reboot quicker).
To ensure nothing is still running try the following
, boot into W7 and Run shutdown.exe /s /t 0 from a command prompt (or Press Windows key and R)
Try chkdsk again from Command prompt before boot.
(chkdsk for C: not the temporary X:)
Try Minitool Partition Wizard and/or the Bootable CD version to shrink the partition.
click here
click here
What was the first OS (supplied when new) on the machine?
ie is it W7 MBR machine or W8 UEFI?
This may be important (I have only skimmed)
click here
The old legacy boot menu may be helpful at some point? (F8 works again, nothing is loaded till you select OS)
click here

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Hi Guys!

Can someone help me with my problem. I'm planning to install dual boot in my laptop (Windows and ubuntu) but sad to say my shrink volume is very little. Is there any software or way to increase it. Please help me.

Thank you!

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Can you shrink the volume that your OS is installed on in Disk Management without screwing up Windows 7? I thought this was a no no unless you had Partition Magic or some program like that but I really don't know. I would like to create a couple of partitions on the hard disk that comes with a new computer with Win7 installed on it. The drives are so large these days and this computer is not going to have any graphics nor videos stored on it. srloren

Answer:Can you safely shrink a Win7 volume? will explain how to create new partitions with Win 7.

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Hey all,
Tryin to get a dual-boot setup going.

Currently using Windows 7 32-bit and want to add XP dual boot.

Per instructions, first step is to go to Disk Management in 7 and shrink the C: volume but the amount of space available to shrink is only 1047 MB. I have over 22GB of free space.

Now I read that " virtual memory page file, System Protection maximum storage space size, and hibernation files" can restrict the amount of space available but now, I'm not quite sure how to safely free up the space to create the partition for XP.


Thanks in advance...

Answer:help for dual boot (7+XP) - can't shrink volume

I'm running into a similar problem. I have Win7 installed on a 640 GB drive. The intent was to use Win7 to partition it into 6 equal drives, leaving the OS with over 100 GB of space .But it won't let me shrink the boot drive beyond 50%. So Win7 has 300 GB and I split the other 300 GB down into a few partitions. Any way around this?

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Dear all

I have a HP notebook with Windows Vista (Home Premium, 32 bit) Operating System. The capacity of its hard drive is 160Gb and its free space is 24Gb. My hard disk had only one partition, so that I decided Shrink the volume using the Disk Management Utility incorporated in Windows Vista.

My selected value of "size of shrink space" was 15Gb, but after 23 Hour, the action of shrinking the partition is not completed yet!! I think this is not normal.

Is there any way to interrupt the action of shrinking the partition? Or may I restart the computer now? Is restarting the windows (and interrupting the shrinking action) dangerous for my data?

Thanks in advace...

Answer:Cancellation of shrink volume in Vista

Another 6 hours have passed. Has it finished?

Best that I can say is, try to stop the process using task manager, if it will let you. If not, reboot. If there are problems, try a system restore. Always a risk involved in these things.

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I sometimes come across computers where Disk Management is unable to shrink the system partition as much I as would like. (This seems to be mainly on computers that have been in use for a while. New computers are not generally a problem).

Are there any workarounds or free partitioning software that will do what Disk Management cannot do in these instances?


Answer:Disk Management cannot shrink volume enough

Quote: Originally Posted by Vincenzo

I sometimes come across computers where Disk Management is unable to shrink the system partition as much I as would like. (This seems to be mainly on computers that have been in use for a while. New computers are not generally a problem).

Are there any workarounds or free partitioning software that will do what Disk Management cannot do in these instances?


Give this a try. A lot of folks here use it. BEST FREE Partition Manager Software for Windows supports all 32-bit & 64 bit Windows No-server OS.

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Hi Guys!

Can someone help me with my problem. I'm planning to install dual boot in my laptop (Windows and ubuntu) but sad to say my shrink volume is very little. Is there any software or way to increase it. Please help me.

Thank you!

Answer:Increase my Shrink volume in partition

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,
I'd use free mini tool personally
Best Free Partition Manager for Windows | MiniTool Partition Free

I'd also not dual boot on the same disk and share data disks or partitions with linux
If you want to dual boot do it the old fashion way and install linux on it's own drive all by it's self
I use one of these one slot for the iso's and one for data disks Vantec 2.5-Inch Dual Bay Trayless SATA III - 6G Mobile Rack (MRK-225S6-BK): Computers & Accessories

I like a simple life and the linux grub there is nothing simple about it when it goes badly

On a laptop there is always cd/ dvd conversion trays.
But it's best to use VMWare and run linux in that environment.
VMware Player - Install and Setup Zorin

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Hey guys. I want to install the W8 preview. New to this stuff. I see I can shrink my volume to provide the needed space for a new partition. Do you recommend I proceed this way?

Answer:Shrink Volume to make new partition?

Defrag disk and then used gparted to shrink the current partition and create a new one for W8.


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I am trying to shrink my C partition to get more space on my Data partition.

My C partition is 191 GB and shows 65GB free and I assume 126GB of used space but when I total up the size of the files on the C drive (in the show hidden files mode) I only get a total of 99GB. The math doesn't add up.

Before trying to shrink C, I defragged the partition using W7. When I then attempted to shrink the C partition by querying the volume for available shrink space it showed that I could only shrink it by only 304 MB!

Is there a way I can overcome this problem? Perhaps by using another software program.

See screen shots below

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Im new to these forums so my bad if this is in the wrong place.

Im running Windows Vista Home Premium and have a 1TB (1000GB) hard drive with 564GB free.

but when I try to shrink my hard it says I can only shrink it by 7238MB.

Any ideas on how to get around this? I wanted to create a partion for like 50GB.

Any help arould be great!
If you are able to give us a easy soluation I would be happy to send a small thanks via paypal.

Thanks again.

Answer:Unable to shrink volume beyond certain limit!

That may mean that there are unmovable files near the partition boundary.

The very best idea would be to defrag with an offline defragger, like Paragon Total Defrag 2008. There are also defraggers on the UBCD4Win CD.

Failing that, try a defrag, anyway, and if you use any commercial defragger, try using its boot-time defrag function. Look at a drive map, too, to see what files/folders are near the boundary. If page file, you may be able to relocate it.

Or use an bootable partitioning tool, like Gparted. Whatever you use, the volume should be checked for errors and defragged beforehand.

Paragon Partition Manager 8.5
PPM Special Edition serial and free registration

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Encrypted Volume Check: Volume Info on \\?\Volume{X}Can Not Read

Found this in my Event Viewer on each start/restart. I don't have any Volumes that I have encrypted. Is this malware? I've run everything prior to noticing including Windows Offline Defender.
Not sure if this is even the correct area to post this!

Answer:Encrypted Volume Check: Volume Info on \\?\Volume{X}Can't read

I'm going to take a guess, please upload a screenshot of the disk manager (Windows Key+R to open the Run dialog, type diskmgmt.msc, and press Enter).
Posting the actual entry from the Event Viewer can help.

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I've been trying to set up a 2nd partition to put a 32bit windows 7 on, but I can't.

I'm following a tutorial, I get to this stage:

But it's not letting me edit how much I want to shrink my drive by. Even if I manually put in a number, the "Shrink" button is gray and I cannot click on it.

Can someone please help me fix this issue?

Answer:Not Able to Create Partition (Shrink Volume Issue)

It would be better, faster and safer to make and use a Partition Wizard Boot cd to perform your partitioning.

Partition Wizard Bootable CD allows user to manage partition directly with partition manager bootable CD.

Post a shot of disk management so we can advise you.

Is it giving you any amount at all to shrink ?

It`s telling you to do a disk defrag. Have you done that ?

Defrag the disk 2 or 3 times and try again.

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Ok so I used Vista's Shrink Volume tool and upon rebooting, my computer hangs at the startup screen and does not budge. Even if you try to go into setup or selecting boot device. It absolutely does not want to go anywhere. I've been looking up for solutions and I think it may be that i formatted the unallocated space to ntfs file system and primary partition boot or something like that? :S

Vista Home 6, 32-bit edition

I'm not sure if there's anyway I can go back. Basically I just need a way to wipe the hd so the computer can read my recovery disc.

Thanks for any feedback


Answer:Vista's 'shrink Volume' - Partition = Death

Hi Jake,I see you have a HJT log posted in the HijackThis Logs and Malware Removal forum.You shouldn't make any changes to your system, while your HJT log is posted, as that could change the results of the posted log, making it difficult to properly clean your system.At this point, the HJT Team should be the only members that you take advice from, until they have verified your log as clean.Since you have received no response after 5 days, give them a gentle reminder by posting a link to your HJT log in the thread titled "Haven't Had A Reply In Five Days?".This topic will now be closed. If you have any questions, feel free to send me a PM.

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Dear Mr/Ms
my name is Tony and i am using the A200 laptop with OS as VISTA
and i formatted it using the product recovery CD after that i have backed up all my data.
It is now working very well except that i realised that now i got only one Volume which is Drive C with 112 Giga bytes.

A friend of mine told me that i can do shrink volume. So i tried it and it worked that i have made up 2 drives....But the problem is that their sizes are not suitable for me and i can't extend their volumes.

To be more clear 112 Giga bytes of drive c is divided into:
drive c : 67 gigabytes
drive d : 43 gigabytes

the thing is that i want to make drive c : 30 gigabytes only and drive D to be the rest of the space.

so can you please tell me how to do this.....

Thankyou and sorry for making my request so tall????

Answer:Satellite A200 - How to shrink volume on Vista?

Have you tried to use the disk management in Vista?
You can find it if you right click on computer => manage => storage => disk management
There you can change current size of the partition.

This could be useful for you:

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Hi , I am using Ideapad z580 with 1 tb hard disk space. I partitioned the C drive using Data management - Shrink Volume. Total Shrink Volume was displayed as 432 gb. And later I partitioned the 432 volume into 3 partitions of 144 gb each (432/3 = 144). But the size in C drive after partition is displayed as 449 gb which is Non-Shrinkable. Can you please let me know why I cannot partition the C drive less than 449 gb. (Actually I want to keep the C-drive to 100gb).  Currently my drives are displayed as : Windows 8_OS (C  449gbLenovo (D  24.9 gbNew Volume (F 144 gbNew Volume (G 144gbNew Volume (H 144gb  ThanksAshis

Answer:Cannot Shrink the Volume of C Drive beyond 449 GB in Ideapad z580

Oh my Gosh .... I give the hard disk name followed by a Colon ':' and a Right bracket ')' and it became a smiley here. 

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I want a bootable partition of my 80GB notebook drive so i can put XP on it, but Vista's shrink volume feature doesn't work. It says that there is no shrinkable space, even though i have 39GB free space. I defragmented the drive about 4 times, and tried all kinds of things to get it to work (like disable hibernation, system restore, etc.) but still nothing. I tried 3 different defragmentation programs and they all show the last 30% of the drive clean. I know that Partition magic doesn't work on vista (because vista is retarded), so I need some way to make a small (maybe 5GB) partition without screwing up any of my data. Can anyone help?

Answer:Vista shrink volume -- piece of crap

So you followed this?

Resize Partitions in Windows Vista, Shrink or Extend a Partition : Welcome To Tech-Dump

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Technical specs: I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 with Windows 8.1. Intel Core i7 Processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB hard drive, and 64-bit OS.

I am in the Disk Management system attempting to shrink my C drive by about 20GB to allow room for an Ubuntu install. I want to be able to dual boot my system. The Disk Management says that I have 94.07GB free in my C drive (43% free), yet when I click to shrink the volume of C drive, it says that the "size of available shrink space in in MB" is 6359. This is not enough room for an Ubuntu install, much less for the program I want to run on it after.

If anyone can shed light on what is going on and a possible way around it, help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Answer:Not allowing shrink volume over 6GB, but have 94GB free

Sounds like you need a bigger HD.
What does your Properties window look like ?

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I am using two partitions on my Disk
C: Total Space 390 GB , Free Space: 215 GB

D: Total Space : 75 GB : Free Space: 13 GB

I run windows 7 through D Drive
Is it possible if I shrink almost 100 GB from C Drive which has 215 GB of Free space currently and add the same 100 GB to D Partition ?

Is it possible through Windows Disk Management or I have to use and install additional full version softwares Partition Magic or Paragon Manager?

I have tried few demo versions like Easus PM but for full functionality full Pro version is required.

Please suggest solution

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My C drive has lot space, nearly 170 GB free space. I do want to shrink C drive, and allocate that memory to another drive to keep files. To do so I am using shrink volume option in device management window. When I clicked on Shrink volume it showing 0 MB is allowed to shrink, even though it has lot of memory unused. Please help.

Answer:Device Management Shrink Volume is not working on C drive

Hello, check this out please : Disk Management - Shrink Partition

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sir i am buying new sony vaio laptop using operating system are windows8, my laptop HDD capacity are 500gb iam created partition in c drive volume are false to edit 218 gb in c drive , i am need to change the volume to c drive in 100gb cannot shrink disk management. how to solve this problum ? please help me sir , all types of best solution for my laptop( never corrupted OS and software)

Answer:cannot shrink volume in new sony vaio laptop running W8

It would be nice if you had given the model designation of your laptop. Or is it only Sony Vaio ?Anyway, if you an UEFI motherboard and Windows 8 is installed that way, then it is not easy to make changes in hardware. You must first disable the protection in BIOS and make the changes. Afterwards you must reenable that protection.So I suggest you look into the documentation that shaould have come with your purchase of the laptop or online documents.CoolGuy

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64-bit Vista with a 640 gig system drive, 11 gig partition for the factory image, 585 gig partition for the system OS, currently with 465 gigs of free space.

So what I wanted to do was shrink the system partition down to about 185 gigs or so and create a 400 gig data partition. I used the built in defragger and then tried to shrink the volume and Vista will analize the volume fine but then it will only come up with a maximum of 176,169 MB available space to shrink, resulting in 422,887 MB retained system partition, almost exactly the opposite of what I want.

Question is is there a simple fix, a difficult fix or no fix at all (you don't have to give me the non-Vista fixes, I know one or two of those)? "Vista is a great OS" people front and center! Make me believe!

Answer:Shrink volume; another poorly performing Vista feature?

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There is pretty much space on C drive, but it does not allow me to shrink. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

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Sorry if this has been treated somewhere else, but I cannot find a suitable answer anywhere. I have a used trascend external HD and am trying to partition it to make it NTFS so that I can create and store on it the system image of my computer.

I have plenty of free space, but when I right click on it, in Windows Disk Management, the option 'shrink volume' is greyed out and am not able to partition the drive .

I do not want to format the whole drive as I've got an older version of Windows that might not recognise the files (am I correct in thinking this?).

Any advice really appreciated



Answer:External Hard drive cannot shrink volume to partition

Quote: Originally Posted by fairgrace

Sorry if this has been treated somewhere else,

Well, this probably belongs in the "hardware" forum where disk drive and partition questions normally go, but I'll respond here. An admin may move this thread to the "hardware" forum later.

I have a used trascend external HD and am trying to partition it to make it NTFS so that I can create and store on it the system image of my computer.

I have plenty of free space, but when I right click on it, in Windows Disk Management, the option 'shrink volume' is greyed out and am not able to partition the drive .

Can you please post a screenshot from Diskmgmt.msc, maximized and with columns spread so the text contents in each column are readable in the screenshot.

Once you post this screenshot, we can recommend a proper course of action or suggest a possible "recipe" that might work, or maybe ask more questions.
As an excellent alternative to Windows Disk Management, I suggest you try Partition Wizard... either standalone boot CD or using the installed program under Win7. PW should have no problem dealing with this drive, and being able to resize partitions, format partitions to NTFS, or if necessary being able to "delete all partitions" and then you can "create partition" and format to NTFS, etc.

Partition Wizard can be used to do anything Diskmgmt can do, an... Read more

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I have 6 partitions on my hard drive. Under Disk Management, when I select a partition and then "Shrink" all but one shows the total capacity correctly, along with the amount to shrink and then the remaining that will be left. However on one partition, when selecting shrink, the total capacity is the sum of the total plus the free, and not just the total capacity. As such, I cannot shrink this volume without an error. The capacity is about 350GB with the free about 200GB. When I select shrink, the total of the volume shows 550GB instead of 350GB. The correct capacity of 350GB shows correctly on the Disk Management listing and boxes on the initial screen and also under Properties on the File Manager. It is only when selecting the shrink option that it shows 550GB.

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Recently, i shrinked the E drive(Total drives 3 C,D,E) and created a new volume F as a dynamic disk.
After i restarted the laptop, it is not booting .....


can i re-install the os with a copy of installation disc..


Answer:i shrink E drive and created a new volume(dynamic)After ItIsNotBooting

Hello and welcome aboard, Abhi .

If there are more than four primary partitions in a disk, it must be converted to a dynamic one, and you havent counted the hidden system reserved partition in count while partitioning more. So it happened.

You cannot boot from a Dynamic Disk . You are to convert it to basic first. Follow the tutorial Convert a Dynamic Disk to a Basic Disk .

But it will wipe the entire HDD, and you will loss all your data.

There are paid third party programs that can do it without any data loss . See it : Convert Dynamic Disk to Basic without Data Loss!

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I have 6 partitions on my hard drive. Under Disk Management, when I select a partition and then "Shrink" all but one shows the total capacity correctly, along with the amount to shrink and then the remaining that will be left. However on one partition, when selecting shrink, the total capacity is the sum of the total plus the free, and not just the total capacity. As such, I cannot shrink this volume without an error. The capacity is about 350GB with the free about 200GB. When I select shrink, the total of the volume shows 550GB instead of 350GB. The correct capacity of 350GB shows correctly on the Disk Management listing and boxes on the initial screen and also under Properties on the File Manager. It is only when selecting the shrink option that it shows 550GB.

Answer:Disk Management Shrink Volume wrong capacity

I would suggest some sort of fixmbr command that won't reformat the drive. Maybe other people have more suggestions on how to do it without it erasing files from your drive.

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I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right thread, but a major part of my query is with backing up the data on my hard drive. Please help.

I want to reinstall Windows 7 Home Basic (x64) on my Dell Inspiron 1440 laptop. But I do not have the setup CD and hence I plan to use the Dell Restore Image on the recovery partition. Before this I need to backup the data.

So these are my queries in short:

1) During Dell Factory restore, do I get to create partitions? Coz right now win 7 is in a 441 GB partition, but I want to install the OS in a smaller partition, say 40GB.

2) Before the reinstall, I need to back up the data. Unfortunately, the back up hard disk (on my desktop comp) will fall short by around 50GB. So I came up with this idea:

Cut and paste as much data as possible from my laptop to the desktop. Use Windows disk management feature, shrink the volume, and create a partition from within Windows 7. Move the 50 GB data to this partition.
During the reinstallation, create yet another partition, of 40GB, and install Windows without having to delete the 50GB data. Is this possible?

Please find attached a screenshot of the Disk Management utility. The 12.11 GB partition has LinuxMint and I plan to install XP over it.

Hope I am clear. Thanks in advance.

Answer:Shrink volume and Dell restore to factory settings

The whole idea of Factory Restore is to put everything back to the way it was when it was shipped from the factory.
So no if you use the factory restore option you will not be able to shrink the C drive.

Not sure what Dell does these days. I've only worked on one Dell notebook with 7 on it.
But Dell does included a program to make the system disk from images/ISOs/whatever on the hard drive.
Not sure if those disk you create contain a REAL OS reinstall disk or if it is to do a factory reinstall.
The only way to tell is create them and take a look at what is on each disk.
You might be able to contact Dell and for a small fee have them send you a REAL OS disk.

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is there any way to not have the system beep go off every time i adjust the master volume from the volume control?


Answer:master volume setting in volume control (windows 2003)

wow....that is a great question...i would love to know the answer.

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ok so this problem was just about from the beginning. i thought i would be patient and it would go away. at first i noticed that while using msn messenger, its volume control for voice chat controled the main volume for the whole pc. so if it was low things wouldnt sound as high as i wanted. no matter if i adjusted the main volume in the control panel, which was always set to highest, the volume would still be at the mercy of Msn M. so if it was lower than usual i would have to sign into msn m and adjust it. not only does this happen with msn m. it also happens with web video applications used by youtube, livevideo, etc etc! those arent usually the culprit of low sound. its usually just msn m. even now with live messenger i have the issue. im tired of being patient so here i am

windows xp sp2
2gig ram.
anything else? sound card? the sound card came with the mobo. its a Realtek AC'97.
thanks for any help.

Answer:Other volume bars control the main volume of windows xp

trying to keep it alice bump~

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Okay so I went to hop on my desktop today, it wasn't waking up when I move mouse etc, which was odd because it was on. So I restarted it and I've had two options for windows 10 for a while now volume 1 and 4 I don't know why, I've always used 1 but now when I click 1 it just goes to black screen, monitor is awake cause my light turns blue when it is, I pressed windows key with something I forgot what button while in black screen and sound was coming through. So I restated again and went on volume 4 and that worked fine out dated stuff since I haven't used it but it was working. I would like to get back on my main volume, or at least know what the issue is.

i did a Nvidia graphic card update a day or two ago as well.
i also tried to go to the troubleshoot screen when you open windows 10 which worked fine, but when I clicked restore to a previous time-black screen- and then I tried removing everything completely clicked that option -black screen-
Thanks for help ahead of time!!

Answer:Windows 10 black screen on volume 1(main) and not Volume 4(old)

UPDATE: so I went into volume 4 and attempted a complete wipe again, once I clicked it screen went black for a while and no sign it was working, so now I put in my windows XP disk and am going to attempt a clean install of that, then just upgrade to windows 10.

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Volume? is a free advanced Windows volume control tool that gives you more options folr controlling your computers volume. Project Title: Volume? Developer: Irza Alexandr Official Site: (Link Updated) Interface: Multilanguage (English, German, Russian) License: FreeWare Volume? - Advanced Windows volume control. The main function is control volume by using one of several ways:
- A simple rotation of the mouse wheel over: taskbar, tray, tray icon and etc.
- Using hot keys
- With a simple mouse movement at the edge of the screen
- With additional mouse buttons
Additional functionality includes the following:
- Control the brightness of the screen
- Safe removal USB flash drives
- Opening doors CD / DVD
- Peak Meter
- Shedule - set volume by time
In this case, all the above listed actions are accompanied by beautiful OSD (which the program has more than 100 pieces)

Answer:Volume˛ - Advanced Windows volume control tool

Link to official page Volume?

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I recently bought a 500gig external HD. When I plugged it into the USB it said "Windows could not load the installer for volume. Contact your hardware vendor for assistance." When I click ok it says it's installed and ready to use, but doesn't appear in my computer. I called Seagate and the guy tried everything and couldn't get it to work. You can see it in disk management. It's healthy and active. You have to assign it a drive letter yourself. It still doesn't show in my computer,but you can access it. Whatever you put on it the name can't be more than 8 characters. It's in NTFS format. When you unplug it you have to go through that whole process again. The drive works on other computers so it's not faulty. I have an older external and an ipod that still works on my computer with no problem. A friend let me borrow his 80 gig portable drive and it gave me the same message also. Apparently every new external device I try to use will have this problem. I've spent days searching the net trying to find a solution. I've tried the suggestion sfc /scannow but it won't initialize because the RCP is unavaliable. I made a restore point then went to run a system restore the next day, but all my restore points I had seen just the day before had vanished!! I'm very frustrated and exhausted. ANY suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Answer:Windows could not load the installer for volume.

I'm running XP Professional SP2

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I have MusicMatch Jukebox on my WinXP pc. When MMJ is turned on it invariably adjusts the Wave slider in the Windows sound panel. The result is lower sound.There also seems to be a conflict sometimes between MMJs own independent volume slider & the Windows volume control.None of my other media players have any of the above problems.Any ideas.Cheers.


Hi rotormota, I had a similar problem with Winamp. It turned out that the Winamp volume slider was set at 50%.Using media player was fine but everytime I used Winamp it reduced the volume slider on my Windows play control by half.Mike

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I've had this problem with Windows Vista Ultimate 64, Windows 7 64 7077, and Windows 7 64 7100.

Basically, the volume starts out at normal level, then all the sudden it will be real quiet. It stays quiet and no matter what settings I adjust, I cannot get it to play louder again. I would really like to disable all of the volume controls in windows and run Bit Perfect audio....

Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
Audio Rig: B&K 7270, Emotiva DMC-1, Polk LSI-25

That amp is putting out nearly 400 wpc (weighing nearly 100lbs O_O) to each speaker... My normal listening volume is -46 db (on my DMC-1)... now I have to put it on -17Db to get the same listening level. Something is wrong, and it's definitely the settings in windows.

I noticed the change immediately while I was listening and accidentally adjusted the bass settings in windows sound settings, the sound level fell instantly, and never returned...

any ideas?

*****Currently working***** Any ideas on the Bit Perfect audio?

Answer:Windows 7 7100 - Fluctuating Volume/Low volume

The issue I am having is in a way similar, it goes loud and the base starts to distort...very minimal, hardly noticeable on most songs. I am running the 32bit version on a ROG X-Fi MB which uses the SoundMax AD2000

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Since a long while ago I've been having some weird issues with audio on my HP Netbook. Whenever I listen to audio on anything that has a separate volume slider (e.g. Youtube videos or iTunes) the volume is always at maximum. If I slide the slider back to minimum the sound slowly crawls back up to maximum while the slider stays down at minimum. Strangely this only seems to happen when using headphones/earbuds. I tried recreating it without headphones but it does not appear when using the laptop speakers. I also tried changing earbuds/headphones but to no avail, the sound kept playing on maximum volume. Also to make clear, the windows volume sliders work just fine. When at minimum the sound stays at minimum. It's only on separate volume sliders that are embedded in programs themselves. Julliath

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Hello, i got a 3tb hard drive today and i went and allocated 2000gb but there is about 740gb left and when i right click it the option "new simple volume" is not highlighted

i would not mind if this problem was with a 10gb hard drive but its 740gb on the line and I kind of want it so.

i need help.
here is a screenshot of the problem.

Answer:Can't use simple volume on a 742gb hd


Is the disk formatted as GPT or MBR - I suspect the former. Please attach the screen capture image of your Disk Management screen as you missed that in your first post.


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My Laptop is HP-g62. I am using windows 7 home basic OS.
when i seartch my computer Manger it shows Unallocated space.
i want to create partition in that space,i tried several time using internet and my friends advice and lot of ways.
but still i am fail.
when i go to the Normal path one time it shows messege "convert basic disk to dynamic disk"
after i select yes it displys error messege "dynamic disk are not support to thi operating system.dynamic disk are not supported on cluster"

i attatch final 2 messeges.

now i am totally fed up.
anyone can help me..

Answer:Create simple volume

Hello dimuth, welcome to Seven Forums!

After you have copied out or made back-ups of the data you need to save to external media for safe-keeping, have a look at Method Two of this tutorial at the link below, though you will have to extend the C: partition back into the unallocated space to its right first, then use Method Two of the tutorial and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.

Do not convert to a Dynamic disk.

Partition / Extended : Logical Drives

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Hi, I've tried everything with this laptop to no avail, and though maybe someone here might know how to fix my problem.

Well, it started yesterday when I booted up and got the "Windows did not start successfully" message. No matter what option I picked (safe mode, start Windows normally etc.), it would go to the Windows logo and begin to load, and then quickly flash the BSOD and restart again, returning to the "Windows did not start successfully" message.

I then disabled automatic restart on system failure and this time the BSOD stayed on screen and told me that I had an "UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME" error. I looked around on the internet, and from what I read I decided to run Chkdsk from the Recovery Console.

This is where I am stuck. I have two "Recovery CD-ROMs" instead of the Windows XP CD, because the laptop came with Windows XP preloaded, and I figured that to get to the Recovery Console I should insert one and boot the laptop. I tried both, and nothing happened (it just loaded the "Windows did not start successfully" message again).

I then loaded the CD directly by hitting Esc on start up, but the only options that came up were 1. MS-DOSwith CD-ROM support, 2. Recover Windows XP to first partition only, 3. Recover Windows XP to entire HD, and 4. Recover Windows XP to entire HD with 2 partitions.

I've tried changing the order of Boot Device Priority using the BIOS setup utility, but this just brings up the men... Read more

Answer:[SOLVED] Unmountable boot volume error, cannot load Windows XP disk

Hello Clare

You will have to borrow a proper (full) XP installation CD from someone.
Configure your PC to boot from CD if it isn't already set up that way. You may need to enter the BIOS to configure the PC to boot from the CD.
Set the boot order to
floppy (if present)
Hard disk

Start your PC with the XP Setup CD in the drive. When you see the "Press any key to boot from CD..." prompt, do so and let the CD-based boot process begin.

When the Recovery Console option is offered (Press R to start the Recovery Console), do so. You may be asked which Windows installation to enter, in which case type the number of the Windows installation you wish to work on (usually 1).

When prompted, enter the Administrator's password for that Windows installation. If you did not set a password just press ENTER

At the command prompt, type
chkdsk /r



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Hi all!

I'm wanting to create a new partition on my drive of about 100GB. I shrank the main partition which left me with 98.05GB unallocated. Fine, but when I try to create a new simple volume in the unallocated space I get the error: "There is not enough space on the available disks to complete the operation."

It does ask me what size I want the new simple volume to be, but I've tried everything from the entire size of the unallocated space, down to 1GB. Am I missing something here?

Any help would be appreciated, Many thanks.

Answer:Partitioning... Trying to create a new simple volume.

its giving you the wrong error message, the problem is you have 4 primary partitions, in order to make that new volume in that location using windows, C:\ would need to be converted to an extended partition, i dont know how to do this im afraid, but if you stick around sure someone will help

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I accidentally converted my Primary Partition into Simple Volume. Please view the exact story in the attached image files, and tell me how can I revert my partition to be Primary Partitions.

Answer:Primary Partition Became Simple Volume

Did you mean to say you made your disk Dynamic ?

Didn`t you get a message warning you it could turn to Dynamic ?

You can`t have more than 4 primary partitions on 1 hard drive in windows, or it will turn the disc to dynamic.

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Howdy everyone, am in a bit of a pickle and would appreciate some pointers.
The past 2 days i have lost the sounds of my operating system, cannot stream audio and have lost my volume icon from the taskbar.

I am however able to listen to CDs through itunes, media player etc and can watch DVDs fine. It is just there are no sounds on windows start up and games etc and no streaming audio on Youtube, Myspace etc.

I have tried many things, obviously ticking, un ticking the box in control panel etc. Have tried system restore, been on kellys korner or whatever its called, looked up the problem but i need XP driver disk to reinstall sounds card. I dont have XP driver disk.
aswell i tried downloading new soundcard which didnt work. Was clutching at straws really.

i think some kind of codec i downloaded started the problem. My "show desktop" and Thunderbird icons have also disappeared from other side of taskbar.

My system is XP Pro, a Compaq Armada M700 laptop. Soundcard is a ESS Maestro 2E
Im usually pretty good at solving these kinds of problems, have been googling this for ages tho to no avail

if anyone could help that would be great


Answer:No Volume In Windows Or Volume Icon

Try this:Set windows to show hidden files,How to see hidden files in Windows Then navigate to:C:\ Windows \ System32 \ dllcacheLocate sndvol32.exeRight click it, and select Copy.Navigate to C:\ Windows \ System32 In an open area, right click and select PasteIf Windows says the file already exists, do you want to replace it, select YesReboot

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im trying to create a new simple volume in unallocated hard disk but it keeps indicating "An unexpected layout change occurred external to the volume manager. " what may be the problem?

Answer:how do i create a new simple volume from unallocated disk?

Make sure nothing is running in the background which is writing to the disk and interfering with Disk Management.

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I was formatting my 30 Gig partition on my 1TB hard drive. I deleted the partition and was going to split it further, but when i deleted it it stored as free space rather then Unallocated. now whenever I try to create a simple colume or delete the partition it gives the error message "There is not enough space available on these disk(s) to complete this operation. this partition has never given me a problem like this before.

Answer:Can not create a Simple Volume, or Delete the Partition

Oh, I managed to fix the problem with a third party partitioning program.

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Hi: I have both Acronis 11 and Norton Ghost 9. I have recently installed a new Western Digital 1 TB HD and want to clone all my files to the 1 TB drive from 3 other samller drives and make it bootable for XP. Here is the catch. Acronis will not recognize the drive for copy because XP SP3 will only let me create a simple partition for this 1 TB drive (set for RAID only). I cannot get XP to let me convert the volume to dynamic and, as such, neither Norton nor Acronis will allow me to copy wil the drive in it's current state. Is it an issue with the size of the dirve for XP? In "Disk Management" if I right click on the 1 TB drive I get no conversion option. Thanks!

Answer:Coverting basic(simple) to dynamic volume

why do you have it in raid when it's only one disc?

I don't know if this helps

[how do you change a dynamic disc back to basic and still keep the data?] - Computers

HOWTO: Convert a dynamic disk back to a basic disk without data loss

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i just bought a 3TB external hard drive. i noticed it reads kind of slowly, especially when i first open it in explorer, so i decided to try to partition it.

i saw the tutorial on shrinking and partitioning hard drives on this forum and used the windows 7 disk manager to shrink and partition the hard drive. it partitioned it into 3 parts; one 1.3 TB, and two 700 GB partitions. the 1.3 TB one is the primary volume so i didn't mess with it. i successfully partitioned and formatted the first 700 GB partition into a simple, but for the second one the option for 'new simple volume' is greyed out.

Answer:can't turn second unallocated partition into a simple volume

Could you provide a screenshot of your Disk Management window? Need to see how your HD is partitioned so far before we can address the problem.

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Alright, so I want to dual boot Ubuntu along side Windows 10. I shrunk my C drive to make a new partition for Ubuntu around 40 GB. However after shrinking the partition, when I try to create a simple volume out of the unallocated space, I get a warning that it will be converted to a dynamic disk and that I will no longer be able to load installed Operating Systems on my Hard Drive. Now, I know that I cannot have more than 4 partitions. The partions on my HDD are:
1. System Partition 100 MB NTFS
2. C dive 296 GB where Windows is.
3. Healthy Recovery 450 MB ( This doesn't show up in This PC)
4. D drive 634 GB. Where I store my data.
Is there any way to create another partition without converting my drive to a dynamic one?

P.S. I am not sure if this is the right category to place this question, but I didn't know where else I could post this.

Answer:Unable to create a simple Volume out of unallocated space.

you could convert your disk to GPT - but would require UEFI support..

You could convert an existing partition to a logicial / extended partition..

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Just got a brand new HP computer with windows 10 Pro (64bit) preinstalled on an SSD. I am now adding a 1TB sata hard drive for storing data files. New HDD is installed as Disk 1 and is seen by Windows 10. I initialized it as an MBR basic disc. When I try to go to the next step of creating a volume, I right click on disk 1 and there is no option available to create a new simple volume. There are other volume options (mirror, raid, etc) but they are all greyed out. Simple is not even listed as an option. I went to DISKPART and using clean command, took it back to the start, then initialized it as a GBT. That didn't make a difference. Now I'm back to MBR again. I also did a List Volume command under DISKPART and confirmed there is no volume on this drive. I'm stuck. How can I get this drive to the point where I can format it and use it?

Answer:Unable to create simple volume on new 1TB hard drive

Duh. Just solved my on problem. Was clicking on the disk name instead of the unallocated space. Got it working now!
Sorry for being a dope.

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I just recently did a Windows 7 re install so I would have a clean slate when using a new raid setup. (LSI 9211-8i with (4) 2 TB WD Red) I am new to RAID's but everything seams to be working fine. I used 4, 2 TB WD Reds in a RAID 10 and got the expected 3.7 TB of space. I run my OS on a small 120 GB SSD and put all my user accounts on a different drive as shown here.

User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

So to get back to the problem at hand, when I went to create a new simple volume initially to do this it would only allow me to put 2048 GB in a volume. Not a big deal because I though that I would be able to set up a new simple with the rest of it later. The problem that I'm wondering about is that now that it is all set up and running I can use the rest of the space. When I am in disk management and right click on the unallocated space everything is grayed out except for Properties and Help.

I'm not sure what to do about this . Although I don't need the s[ace right now I don't like the idea of 1.5 TB sitting there unusable. If I'm going to do something about this I would rather do it now than later.


Answer:Unable to create New Simple Volume of a 3.7 TB RAID disk

If you want to use more than 2.2GB, you have to convert the MBR disk to a GPT disk.

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