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T440s - Trackpoint

Question: T440s - Trackpoint

I T440s which I updated to Windows 10. I updated the Lenovo drivers after updating and I have the latest Trackpaad/trackpoint drivers. I want to use the track point but not the touchpad. When I go into settings and choose either "Classic Trackpoint" or "Trackpoint Only", the buttons on the trackpad do not work. Help, Please.

Jim


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Hi, I'm setting up my new thinkpad t440s and I cannot get my trackpoint to work.  It does not respond and in my mouse properties/thinkpad section, the Touchpad is clearly enabled, but the Trackpoint options are all greyed out.  In the pointing options dropdown, I can only see the option to 'Use TouchPad only.'  I strongly prefer the Trackpoint to the Touchpad and would prefer it if possible. I currently have Synaptics pointing device driver version 18.0.7.109, the most recent version.  I've tried rolling back to previous versions and this issue still persists.  I also have gone into BIOS and disabled and re-enabled the Trackpoint in boot settings. Unfortunately, since this is a work machine, I do NOT have the capability to remove the keyboard or replace parts.  Any ideas at all would be greatly appreciated.

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I just got my new ThinkPad T440s, and I'm having some difficulties getting the Trackpoint to work properly. Whenever I power up the system, the Trackpoint is responsive for a minute or so and then completely stops working, while the touchpad works just fine. I have tried re-installing/ updating the Ultranav driver, but no luck. I have also tried a complete factory restore, and the problem remains.  I noticed that when I don't have the Ultranav driver installed, the trackpoint works a little while longer but then gets a bit crazy. By that I mean moving the cursor using either touchpad or trackpoint somehow ends up opening shortcuts, moving icons or the taskbar, etc. It's hard to explain, but it's like the cursor moves all over the screen rapidly "left-clicking" and "right-clicking" all over the place.  It's strange that when I'm going through the Windows installation prompts, the trackpoint seemed to work just fine. This and the fact that it works for a minute upon start-up make me think it's a software issue.  Does anyone have any suggestions that I could try? I haven't tried doing anything in the BIOS, if there's something that could be done. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Answer:T440s Trackpoint problems

Hi zorero, You can check in the bios if the trackpoint is enabled but if it works sometimes it might be anyway. you should try to remove the keyboard, unplug the trackpad and replug it.It can be just just a connection problem where the plug is not properly attached to the motherboard. There is the link to the Hardware Maintenance Manual where you can find how to remove the keyboard: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf Hope that helps, Vince.





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We are starting to Roll out the T440s laptop. We are running into issues with the Trackpad like everyone else. It appears that if I want to use the Right-Click button in the upper corner I can only do so if I am using the Trackpoint. If I use the trackpad and try to Right-Click in the upper corner it does nothing. If I use the lower corner it works 50% of the time.If I use the Trackpoint and the upper right corner it works. However if I use the lower right it does not. Is there a way to change the behavior of the Trackpad/point so that I can use either the upper right and lower right at all times?It's going to be a pain to train users to use only the bottom or top depending on if they are using the Trackpad/Point.Thanks!

Answer:T440s Top Right-Click only works with TrackPoint

Hello.
 
I initially had this experience with my first Clickpad equipped machine, which was a T440s, and since I am a die-hard TrackPoint enthusiast, I simply disabled the touchpad in BIOS. It worked fine like that for me, but when I got my Helix, I decided to tinker with it for it to better suit my needs, and what I did was to make the right click areas bigger in the UltraNav config utility (Control Panel -> Mouse -> ThinkPad tab), and select Large in the button size.
 
After I did this, my whole experience of the Clickpad changed to the better, so I've enabled the touchpad again on my T440s, and the device is just superb to work on now. Sometimes I actually find myself using the touchpad, tapping (two finger tap for right click) and gestures specially, which I hardly ever do on my older ThinkPads.
 
Screenshot of my settings.
ThinkPad Mouse config
 
See if this helps you out.

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So after reinstalling the driver, my T440s Trackpoint is working as advertised, but while it was acting all wonky...something happened. The driver malfunctioned in a good way so that I could tap the touchpad with my thumb to invoke a left-click while using the TrackPoint. Normall, the driver locks out the touchpad completely while the TrackPoint is in use, so that the touchpad only functions as buttons. But the vertical travel of the touchpad is deep and it takes extra effort to depress completely each time. What's worse, the touchpad remains locked out after I move the cursor with the TrackPoint and then stop to leave it over an icon, so that I actually have to move the cursor with the touchpad before it will accept a tap as a left- or right-click. Is there any way to force the driver to let me use taps instead of clicks to inoke left and right click while using the TrackPoint? Also, is there any way to defeat the touchpad lockout? In my opinion, the touchpad itself is excellent as far as Windows touchpads go. They've gotton double-tap for right-click perfectly, and two-finger scrolling is actually quite nice. But they've also overlooked an opportunity to make TrackPoint use even easier and more user-friendly than it was with physical buttons.

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Hi everyone, I got my T440s in Dec 2013.  The touchpad and trackpoint worked then, but after a couple months the touchpad would work for a few minutes and then just stop responding.  After a while longer the trackpoint completely stopped working as well.  Now neither of them have worked for months - I've been using an external mouse.   I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers but that didn't help.  When I open Device Manager and click "Show hidden devices", the ThinkPad UltraNav Pointing Device shows up with a yellow triangle "!" icon.  Does anybody know how to fix this? Thank you!

Answer:T440s Touchpad & Trackpoint don't work

Hi Snowmc,
 
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
 
As per the query we understood that you are facing the issue with touchpad on ThinkPad T440s.
 
To proceed with troubleshooting steps please boot the system to safe mode and uninstall the UltrNav driver from control panel ? program & feature option and also from device manager.
 
Shutdown the system and remove the external mouse and then switch ON the system, after booting with normal mode it will install generic drivers. Please check if the generic driver is also giving the issue with touchpad.
 
If the issue still persists after performing above troubleshooting then please provide the MTM number of the system at the next reply.
 
Hope this helps!
 
Best regards,
Hemanth Kumar





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I have a new T440s which came with Windows 8, and I upgraded to 8.1Nothing strange installed in it. Sometimes touchpad and/or trackpoint don't work at all after turning on, rebooting or recovering from a suspended state.It never fails while the system is running.When it happens, I reboot and it works fine. Already upgraded everything using System Update (BIOS, etc) and Windows Update. Sounds to me as a driver issue, not a hardware issue... but I am not 100% sure. What should I do? Should I reinstall any driver? How?

Answer:T440s touchpad and trackpoint issue

Uninstall the UltraNav driver from Device Manager or Programs and Features. Then run System Update; it should offer the UltraNav driver again.Alternatively, here's the manual download:https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds034647

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I've posted a description of my issue here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1395665 I've got pastebin links to various log files and the output of some diagnostic commands in the above post. In short, I've had my T440s since November, and it's been working just fine. About 5 days ago, after resuming from a suspend, my trackpoint and trackpad no longer work, though the keyboard works fine. I've removed the keyboard to see if I could access the connector to the motherboard, but it's not reachable from behind the keyboard. I then tried to remove the back panel, but it is a complete pain in the rear to remove. I've been going at it for about 40 minutes now, and I still can't get the panel to come apart from the front corners of the laptop. Additionally, after looking at some photos online, it seems like I won't be able to access the connection between the trackpad and the motherboard anyway without even further disassembling it, which I'm not sure I'm comfortable with. Does anyone see anything in the log files I linked in my post to the Arch BBS, or have any advice as to what I could do?

Answer:T440s Clickpad+Trackpoint completely nonfunctional

Update: I've tried updating the BIOS, this did not fix my issue. I've also checked the connection behind the keyboard for the trackpoint, and while I wasn't able to fully disconnect and reconnect the keyboard (for some reason what I see differs from the hardware maintenance manual), the connection seems fine, and it's below the keyboard's connector, so I don't know how it could've come undone. Also, it seems very strange that both the trackpad and trackpoint would stop working at the same time- aren't they on different connectors? It almost seems like I hit some sort of non-obvious hardware disable hotkey-combo for the trackpad/point (NOT in the BIOS- I've checked there a million times. Both trackpoint and pad are enabled). But none of my fn keys toggle it. Anyone have any ideas? I'm really getting annoyed that such an expensive laptop is having issues like this.

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My T440s, for some while now, has been experiencing severe problems in both its clickpad and Trackpoint. I have installed both of the latest drivers on Lenovo's website, but to no avail. UltraNav installs completely fine. The other Synaptics driver doesn't seem to recognize the trackpad/trackpoint however.  Nevertheless, I don't even see a "Thinkpad" tab under "Mouse" in the Control Panel, which was previously there.  The touchpad doesn't work at all; the trackpoint will move on booting, but when clicking, it suddenly goes haywire, moves/clicks randomly into the left corner of the screen, and then freezes. Clicking on the clickpad seems to work, however. Is this a software or a hardware issue? And how can I resolve it?

Answer:T440s Clickpad & Trackpoint almost completely nonfunctional

Okay, I got the touchpad/trackpoint working by uninstalling everything Lenovo and installing an old (version 16 something) generic Synaptics driver. There's no middle-click/scroll nor gestures, but I guess that I'll have to live with it until a better solution presents itself.

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Hey guys, this is my first posting, so I hope I get everything right. So, I have a weird problem. On my T440s, the trackpoint works alright when my computer wakes up from being shut off or standby. However, as soon as I do 2-4 clicks on my Trackpad, the trackpoint stops working. I did all Windows Updates, also did all Lenovo Updates, including of course the Ultranav Synaptics driver (reinstalled that several times, also as an administrator). Nothing worked. When my computer gets back from standby or from being shut off, the trackpoint works, even for longer periods of time. However, as soon as I use the touchpad to click a couple of times, it completely stops working and I can only get it to work again by restarting, going into standby or even installing a new driver (however, it then quits working again after a couple of touchpad-clicks). Any help / ideas would be greatly appreciated...

Answer:T440s Trackpoint shuts off due to clicking with touchpad

No help, welcome in world of new Lenovo clickpad design. It just work like that, i have same issue. If you can return it back, just return that and buy something else.





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I soley use trackpoint and turn off the lower touchpad part.The problem for me is that when I intend to press the left button, my habitactually makes me press the left edge of the middle button part. To me, the middle button part is too big and l'd like to change it.Is is possible to do that by editing the registry or hidden setting ofthe synaptics driver?  

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I enabled the "tap zones" feature in the Synaptics touchpad settings and configured the zones to right click and middle click. I notice that sometimes the zones stop working while tapping and navigating are still ok. It turns out that scrolling with the middle button and the trackpoint somehow prevents the tap zones from working.A quick fix is to move the cursor using the trackpoint, move it again using the trackpad, then the zones will function normally. However the fix isn't permanent.I hope that Lenovo / Synaptics will address this small issue in the next touchpad driver update.

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Like many people, my T440s trackpad and trackpoint stopped working for no apparent reason. There is no cursor at all on my system unless I plus in an external mouse. I've spent countless hours trying to fix this problem to no avail. Trackpoint and trackpad are enabled in bios, drivers are fine. I've been using an external mouse, which is annoying but workable at home. But now I'm about to go travelling and need the basic functionality of a built in pointing device.
 
Having just spent another hour perusing various threads here and elsewhere, it seems there is still no reliable fix for this issue years after originally reported to Lenovo. So, after a decade of using Thinkpads, I'm about to ditch them and buy a Mac. The decline in this brand's quality is shocking.
 
This post is my last-ditch attempt to find a solution. I'm not optimistic, but if anyone has any suggestions or ideas beyond the usual, please let me know. Thanks.
 
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Answer:Time to get a mac? Last-ditch attempt to get T440s trackpad and trackpoint working

Guess I have my answer.... What a profound dissapointment that Lenovo cares so little about the quality of their products to not even bother addressing such a fundamental and seemingly quite common problem.

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After some recent UltraNav driver updates I have lost cursor and use of the trackpad and trackpoint. The yellow triangle shows up in device manager as the drivers cannot identify the hardware. I've tried uninstall/reinstall and rolling back to older drivers to no avail. This happened originally after an update on 1/26. I had to uninstall drivers, cleaned registrty keys, ran windows update, ran TVSU to reinstall drivers and that worked for a week. Then another update pushed on 2/9 knocked out the Trackpad again.  The device in enabled in both the control panel and BIOS. Disable/Reboot/Enable did not work. Rollback of drivers to 2 or 3 previous versions did not work. Thankfully I have the touch screen or my 15 month old T440 would be entirely useless. Anyone have similar issues and/or solution?? 













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Answer:T440s UltraNav Trackpad and Trackpoint stopped working and no cursor

External USB mouse works fine but as soon as I unplug the USB mouse the cursor disappears. It appears the computer does not even recognize there is a touchpad.  Please help!!

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Hi,I recently got a Thinkpad T440s and I have two problems when using the trackpoint:1) When trying to right click, I like to hit the uppermost part of the trackpad (where it is slanted). However, this registers as a left click. Is there a way to change this (and if not could someone explain to me the rationale behind this)?2) Is there a way to enable middle clicking without 3rd party software? So far, I have only found this thread which suggests using TPMiddle. I just wanted to ask if that's still the way to go.Thanks

Answer:T440s: Trackpoint + right click and middle click

Did you experiment with the settings in the "ThinkPad" tab within the Mouse Properties dialog? (Tap <WinKey>, type "mouse" and choose the Lenovo UltraNav item that is found.) I've noticed that if both TrackPoint and TrackPad are active, it tries to intelligently swtich the location of the right click for you .. but not always what you had in mind!

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For a while now, I have wondered why the virtual buttons shown in the utility http://imgur.com/Lljj1Z7 don?t function as advertised. According to the utility, I should get a left click if I depress the left are of the touchpad, a middle click if I push on the bumps, and a right click if I depress the right half of the touchpad. In my experience, I get a left click regardless of where I depress the touchpad. The only exception is when I depress the bumps in the top middle of the touchpad?when I do that, the mouse enters some weird scrolly mode where I scan scroll stuff with the trackpoint. It definitely does not emit a middle click. But, more importantly, I cannot figure out how to get trackpoint mode to emit a right click. How do I get trackpoint classic mode to work? Is there a way to downgrade the drive or use a non-lenovo branded driver to get it to behave properly? Right now, I?m relying on an external mouse just to middle click and right click. I?m using Windows 10 b10240 and, as in the post?s title, my trackpoint driver is the latest listed on Lenovo?s support site (which I think WU actually installed for me)?19.0.12.61. Why don?t the virtual buttons work and are there any other workarounds that don?t involve using a mode other than Trackpoint Classic?













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Answer:T540p unable to right-click with virtual buttons in trackpoint or trackpoint classic mode 19.0.12.61

Seems to have partially fixed iteslf since Windows Update (WU) installed 19.0.16. Now the right half of my touchpad performs a right click when in TrackPad Classic mode. However, the supposed ?middle click? zone still does a weird scrolly mode instead of sending a middle click. Guess I still have to use an external mouse to accomplish a middle click when using Classic TrackPoint mode, but at least the situtaion is better than when I couldn?t right click with this mode.

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Hi, I got an S230u Twist last autumn and have been really happy with it. At the time, I ordered a set of replacement rubber TrackPoint caps. When I replaced the original cap the other day, I realised that the replacement ones are about 0.5mm shorter than the original one, with the result that the H and G keys get caught on the edge of the cap; you have to hit them quite hard to get them to work. I compared all the new caps from the packet against the original one, and sure enough; they're all a little too short. They fit, but it's annoying to have to go back and make sure all my ""G"s and "H"s typed correctly.  Has anyone else had the same problem? Lenovo, could this just have been a bad batch, and if so can I return the unused ones for a replacement set that is the correct height? 

Answer:S230u - replacement trackpoint TrackPoint caps are too short

If you bought them from Lenovo I'd just try and return them. If not dispute on eBay/PayPal/Credit Card. But never use poor quality TrackPoint Caps. Remember if a computer is running efficiently so is the person behind it generally. 





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Hi, I wonder whether there is a way to enable press-to-click for the trackpoint on the new x1? In the respective settings there is no such options and I searched everywhere, somebody found it? Next question: In order to avoid the annoying noise of the clickpad everytime you press it, I would like to use the tap function of the touchpad while using the trackpoint to move the cursor. Unfortunately, tapping on the pad seems to be disabled during use of trackpoint - any smart hack to get this workig? Thanks to all,J

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Hi Folks, Had a bad T440s that is about to go back. However, under the exact same circumstances and software, the battery on the old machine would last 7 hours.  The battery on the new machine lasts only 2 to 2.5 hours. Anyone else out there experience this problem.? My setup is exactly the same as the previous machine.  The only difference when I ran some software to get statistics is that the battery in the old one was a sony and the battery in the new one is a Sanyo.  The external battery is the same. I've done my checks and there are no issues with the batteries. I've done everything I can. Eliminated processes, services and disabled devices and programs from startup, power profiles.  We are talking a bare work/surf/email machine with very little video usage.  Stlil having the wifi issue too. Lenovo wants to send a tech over or have me ship it to L2 since it is a new machine however I know this will result in a motherboard replacement, (which will result in a new machine anyway which I have asked for) unless the screen has something to do with it.  Other than that surveillance hardware/software tends to draw a lot of power. At this point I need a fully functioning machine hence my reluctance to ship it off and too much life stuff going on to get someone over. Anyone know of another useful battery tool outside of the Battery Eater Pro etc that let's you know where the power is going? I have found a few references on th... Read more

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Hi, Obviously not able to open these critters up. I have a new T440s that I would like to transfer my programs and data to.  Is there a program out there that can do this without having to pull out the hard drive to image? My current one has Windows 8.1. The new one has Windows 7 with the Windows 8.1 recovery discs.  Issue is, I believe that the Windows license is tied to the hardware?  Therefore I would have to make a recovery disc set of Windows 7.....then use the Windows 8.1 recovery discs then move my programs and data over.  Windows Easy Transfer does not look like it can do the best job. I thought about bringing it to the store for them to swap the drives but then worried alot about the whole licensing issue.  (not to mention the possible loss of my warranty) Unless if it is done professional and the license could be stripped out of the existing drive and new drive moved to new machine....perhaps a way to get the license keys from the new system somehow. Thanks in advance.

Answer:T440S to T440s - program and data transfer, OS licensing issue

Hello.
 
If you look at the bottom of the machines, and they both have the Windows 8 sticker, your machines are licenced and the product key is embedded in the BIOS.
 
You can use this program: ProduKey to view and write down your keys, but if you use either the Recovery disks or a WIndows 8 Pro retail DVD to reinstall Windows, your key will be picked up automatically by the installation.
 
For migration of your files, programs and settings, you could simply clone your current WIndows 8.1 installation onto the new drive using, assuming your installation is UEFI and thus your HD is GPT partitioned, Macrium Reflect, which many users here have had a good experience with. That would save you time from having to reinstall Windows on the new machine as well and all you'd have to do is to enter the embedded Windows key of your new machine to activate it.
 
Macrium Reflect
 
That's at least one suggestion, but there are many ways to go about this.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Cheers!

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Hello,my t440s will turn off, when i push against the bottom cover near the connector of the battery. Lifting the thinkpad with one hand is sometimes enough to turn it off. I think it's a connection problem between the external battery and the notebook. -the problem only exists if the external battery is connected-the problem will not appear if i press the battery release button during pressing against the bottom cover. To reproduce the problem:-insert external battery-boot computer, wait until windows is started-press against the bottom cover -> the laptop goes off Without the bottom cover i can reproduce the problem (the battery is not locked without the cover):-if i remove the battery without activating the small switch near the release pusher, the laptop goes off-if i remove the battery while activating the small switch near the release pusher, the laptop stays on. I think, when i push against the bottom cover, the battery looses the connection. On my T440s the connector seems to be very deep. It does not really fit into the battery. Does anybody have the same problem?Can anybody with a t440s look at the battery connector: Is the connector properly aligned, or is it on a different height?  Push at the red position: http://i59.tinypic.com/25006c0.jpgConnector: http://i60.tinypic.com/qzncao.jpg Thanks for your helpAndi  

Answer:t440s battery connection problem - t440s turns off

Hi Andilist,
 
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
 
I?m sorry to hear that you are facing the issue with battery on ThinkPad T440s.
 
As per the query it seems to be issue is with battery, hence I request you to visit the nearby service center for further assistance. As it is related to hardware issue.
 
I request you to contact our Technical Support for further Assistance to get the details of the nearest Authorized Service Center to get the issue analyzed.
 
Click here to open a link where you can select the country and get the exact contact support number. I?m sure they will be a great help.
 
Hope this helps! 
 
Best regards,

Hemanth Kumar






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Title changed to reflect actual subject.        richk
 
I have an out-of-warranty T440s with what appears to be a bad motherboard.  Can I install its 1920x1080 IPS display into another T440s that currently has a 1600x900 display?
 
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Answer:Can I replace T440s 1600x900 LCD with T440s 1920x1080?

Title says W530 - body says T440s.  Which is correct?

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Question: Trackpoint gone...

I did the usual "Windows update" this morning. After the installation had completed I noticed that my Trackpoint has "disappeared"! There is no reaction whatsoever when pressing the red dot and I can't control the mouse with it any more. I then checked in the control panel (no trace) and then had to learn, that it doesn't even exist in the device manager, either. I then rebooted, no change. I then even powered off and reboot from power off again, still no trackpoint! And after I downloaded the trackpoint driver from the Lenovo drivers download site and wanted to (re-)install the driver, I got an error message "this driver can not be installed on non-trackpoint systems". ?!? What? What the %@[email protected]#*%?  Where has my trackpoint gone??? How come, that it has completely disappeared? How do I get this thing working again? Edited: I later noticed, that a part of that Windows Update apparently was a new "Wacom Two Finger Touch" driver. Might that have to do with my disappeared Trackpoint? Michael PS.: Boy - is this annoying to have to work without Trackpoint! 













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Answer:Trackpoint gone...

I just had to learn that there is a Fn-key (F8) that allows to enable/disable Trackpoint and Touchpad. I must have accidentally operated that button without noticing (in fact, I hadn't even known before that there IS such an option...).Its setting was on "Touchpad only". After re-enabling the trackpoint there everything came back to normal. Wheew. What a relieve! :-) And it (most probably) had nothing to do with the Windows Update - just an unlucky conincidence! Michael

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Question: Trackpoint cap

I'm not sure if this is the place I'm supposed to post this. I absolutely hate the trackpoint when I type.  I type quite fast and I hit the trackpoint every once in a while -- but this is enough to really get on my nerves.  It's absolutely distracting.  Imagine typing out your thoughts then all of a sudden you hit the thing, get distracted, then irritated, and your thoughts gone.  ThinkPads are supposed to help you think.  The trackpoint unfortunately doesnt...  Are there a replacement tips that's depressed enough (and maybe colored black...) so that I dont hit it accidentally when I type?  Removing the tip works fine -- but it looks so ugly without it (makes it look like i'm using a broken equipment). Oh and I dont mind if the replacement cap will render the trackpoint unusable.  I just need it low enough so I dont accidentally hit it.













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Answer:Trackpoint cap

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/vlar-443ltu.html
 
these are the three different types of trackpoint caps. You might get lucky with the first type and there is no black trackpoint caps produced by Lenovo. 
 
You can disable the trackpoint by pressing Fn + F8 in windows and then select trackpad only. You can also disable trackpoint from BIOS menu. 

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Question: Trackpoint

I T440s which I updated to Windows 10.  I updated the Lenovo drivers after updating and I have the latest Trackpaad/trackpoint drivers.  I want to use the track point but not the touchpad.  When I go into settings and choose either "Classic Trackpoint" or "Trackpoint Only", the buttons on the trackpad do not work.  Help, Please. Jim

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I have a T60 laptop (purchased Jun 2006) which works great except for the trackpoint.  For the last few months, the trackpoint has not been working.  The touchpad works. Here are the steps I took to troubleshoot - 1.  Updated Ultra NAV driver and Utility software (the latest from lenovo website).  Actually un-installed old version and      re-installed new version2.  Updated the BIOS to the newer version and ensured that Trackpoint/NAV is set to enabled in BIOS3.  Replaced the keyboard (assumed it was a hardware problem).  During replacement, I made sure it was properly      seated to rule out a loose connection.4.  The motherboard was replaced last year (due to a another problem) so I assume it may not be the source of problem I have searched this and other websites but am out of luck.  Appreciate if any one can provide more leads/ideas to fix this.  I am not sure if this is software related. Thanks

Answer:Please help - Trackpoint not operational

how about the mouse properties is it enabled there





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I've been using Lenovo laptops for the last 10 years because of my preference for the trackpoint.  However, I recently purchased a P40 yoga and the trackpoint middle button scrolling is horrendous.  It takes 5 or 6 seconds before it starts scrolling.  Also, when you press the middle button, the cursor does not change to the scroll cursor.  Please help me fix this as I am very unhappy that my brand new computer does not work as well as my other (3 really old) Lenovo laptops.

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For the past week or two it seems that the mouse clicks on its own on my T420. This is in TrackPoint only mode (TouchPad disabled) with press to select disabled. This issue is reproducible as it generally happens right after a normal click or unclick. For example, if I highlight text in a word processor by clicking and dragging my cursor over the text when I release the button the system registers a phantom click within the next second or so. I also have noticed these phantom clicks after middle clickling. Does this sound like a possible driver issue or should I go ahead and call to have a tech come out and replace parts?

Answer:TrackPoint clicks on its own

@nibs,Try uninstalling UltraNav, reboot the laptop then install it back and see if it helps. If problem persist then I guess its time to contact the techs.

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Just received my new X200s. I can't find the two spare caps(classic dome and soft rim) in the package. Does lenovo stop providing those or they just forgot putting them in my package?  

Answer:Only one trackpoint cap comes with X200s?

I ordered my x200s in April 09 and got two extra caps!

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I recently got a Thinkpad T420.  One of my favorite features is the nub, but for the past few days the nub has been impossible to use.  It will click things randomly and rapidly and also freezes and shakes the mouse.  Once I deactivate trackpoint it works fine, but it's one of my favorite features. I just bought the computer two weeks ago so I can't imagine the keyboard breaking already. Is it a software problem or something?













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Answer:TrackPoint Problems

@OutWeRoll,Check and see if you have the latest UltraNav Driver and Utility.http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS019164http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS014080Also try booting into BIOS and reset to default. See if it helps.//JameZ

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Question: Choppy Trackpoint

I know I just posted a thread, but I figured that issue is global enough to warranty its own. But this one seems to be specific to me.I'm a new Thinkpad (and trackpoint) user, and the trackpoint is very choppy for me. It seems to skip frames. For example, making a circular motion with the trackpad results in a continuous, smooth motion. But not so with the trackpoint. It seems to be micro-jumping (or skipping frames as I prefer to call it). This is easily noticeable when holding down the middle trackpoint button and attempting to scroll a page. The page does not scroll smoothly at all (has nothing to do with smooth scrolling, that's something else and not what I'm talking about).Now this isn't just with this X220. Before the X220 I briefly owned a x120e that had this EXACT same problem. I asked about it and people told me that is not normal. So I returned it and got this X220, but it's the same problem.The weird thing is that while this choppiness is present in Windows, it was just fine during the Windows install process. I've tried: disabling the trackpad, reducing/increasing trapoint sensetivity, updating drivers, removing drivers and reinstalling, bumping the priority of the driver to high. None helped. What are the chances I'd receive two machines with the same problem?

Answer:Choppy Trackpoint

Disabling the trackpad from the BIOS fixed the issue it seems (its definitely much smoother). Diasbling it within Windows did not help. If I recall correctly disabling the trackpad in the x120e from the BIOS was not an option. Too bad. But odd that others do not have this problem. Oh and my palm was not resting on the trackpad

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Question: Trackpoint speed

Hello, I have lenovo X61s;  how do I speed up the pointer please?Angster













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Answer:Trackpoint speed

Open 'Control Panel > Mouse'.
Open the 'ThinkPad' or 'ThinkPad UltraNav' tab.
At the top next to 'Pointing Options', click 'Advanced'
In the 'General' tab, you will see 'TrackPoint pointing speed', adjust the slider,

Depending on which Ultranav version you have installed the steps may be slightly different, but they should be roughly the same.

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I have an odd problem.  When I bootup to the login screen, the mouse is disabled.  I can use the keyboard just fine, but I can't move the mouse at all.  It's more of an annoyance than anything, but if anyone knows how to enable the mouse at startup, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your help,--sam

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The touchpad/trackpoint to move my cursor/arrow on the screen is not working. My USB Mouse works fine. Any ideas? Does not work when USB mouse is plugged in or not. Disreguard..........somehow it got turned off in BIOS

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Hello. I have a w520 and a problem. Sometimes trackpoint is not working, and sometimes after reboot it begin working again. But after time it cancel working totally. I change a keyboard to a new and trackpoint works for about two weeks and now it not works again (. I have traing reboot a laptop, but it did not help ( To exclude a software problem I load new windows from a DVD, but trackpoint continies not to work... For all time touchpad and keyboard and mouse works fine. Trackpoint for all time have enable in BIOS. Trackpoint keys are not working also. May be anybody have an idea what problem with touchpad I have? Thank you. Stas.  

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Hello. I have a w520 and a problem. Sometimes trackpoint is not working, and sometimes after reboot it begin working again. But after time it cancel working totally. I change a keyboard to a new and trackpoint works for about two weeks and now it not works again (. I have traing reboot a laptop, but it did not help ( To exclude a software problem I load new windows from a DVD, but trackpoint continies not to work... For all time touchpad and keyboard and mouse works fine. Trackpoint for all time have enable in BIOS. Trackpoint keys are not working also. May be anybody have an idea what problem with touchpad I have? Thank you. Stas.

Answer:trackpoint does not work

Does it work properly in a Linux live USB environment?Unlikely, but maybe the motherboard is damaged and breaking the TrackPoint module on the keyboard? Does the keyboard connector look damaged?

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Hi All,Could someone help me to identify if my trackpoint on the T420S is broken?The images are here,http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7643/fig1k.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/199/fig2h.jpg  In the first image, the red trackpoint can easily come out of the fixture on the keyboard. If I take out the red cap, there is a black thing as shown in second image located on key "G."  I try to jam it into the fixture, but did not work out.Should this black thing need to always stay in the fixture?Is it just be glued to the fixture?Should I ask Lenovo for a service?Thanks for your help.  

Answer:Is my trackpoint broken?

The images don't work, however, I think I understand.  The Trackpoint is a red rubber cap that just fits on a black plastic post between the G, H, and B keys.  It lifts right off of the black plastic post.  The post is a permanent part of the keyboard.  The "eraser" head is user replaceable when necessary. The underside of the Trackpoint "eraser" is hollowed out to fit over the black post.  It is snug, but does not require "jamming."  When in place, does it work?

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Hi everbody, from some reason the trackpoint didn't work on my thinkpad t410.i open the computer to clean the fun coller, and aftre this the trackpoint work fine for two day and from some reason it is stop to work, i buy new keyboark and it is still dont work.  I  try this on my windows and my ubuntu.  Happy Holiday Oshri barazani 

Answer:trackpoint did't work

Hi Oshri,
                           
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
                                                     
As per the query we understood that you are facing issue with track point not working in your Lenovo T410 laptop
The Fn-key (F8) allows the to enable/disable Trackpoint and Touchpad.
 
If the trackpoint is no longer working, this may be a good option to check before investigating device manager, updating / reinstalling trackpoint drivers or rebooting as discussed above.
 
Pressing Fn-F8 brings up the ultranav menu and allows the user to cycle through different trackpoint and touchpad configuration options.
 
Click here for the drivers.
 
Hope this helps. Do post back if issue persists!
        
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Question: Choppy Trackpoint

Hello, Got x120e the other day and I have one question: This is my first Thinkpad (and first time witha trackpoint) - the trackpoint moves kind of choppy. It's not smooth movements like with the trackpad, as if it's missing frames or something. It's still perfectly useable but seems odd. Is this normal?

Answer:Choppy Trackpoint

No, it's not normal.  Mine moves as smooth as the touchpad (if not smoother) and responds to how much I move the stick.  Have you looked into the UltraNav Properties field of the trackpoint?  I'll leave this up to the experts to help you here.  This is my first Lenovo product too. But I'll like to comment that I wish the trackpoint would be at positions where your fingers will be while holding the machine.  The middle position works fine for a bigger laptop, but this is an ultraportable. Remember the IBM PalmTopPC110?  http://www.komotch2.com/tps/pt110.htm And the Toshiba Libretto:  http://www.silverace.com/libretto/libretto100j.jpg Some models' trackpoints are even located at behind the screen (i.e. on the lid).PalmTopPC110

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Now that the 5th gen Thinkpad is here, the decline of the trackpoint becomes ever clearer.  Frankly, most of us would not be buying Thinkpads if they didn't have the trackpoint.  That's the X1's main advantage.  But Lenovo keeps making it worse.  First, the trackpoint caps that will fit the gen 4 and 5 come in only one, unpopular, variant and you can't get the soft rim version.  But more importantly, Lenovo keeps on degrading the software control of the trackpoint.  It used to be that you could adjust the sensitivity of the trackpoint, making it more or less stiff.  Even the softest setting was inadequate but it was something.  In the 5gen there is no option to change the stiffness or responsiveness of the trackpoint's movements at all.  Lenovo: hear your customers!! Please make the trackpoint MORE not less adjustable. 

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I have read a review of Yoga 2 Pro where the reviewer referred to the trackpoint, but when I go online to buy one it seems the trackpoint is gone? Is there a Yoga 2 Pro model which still retains the trackpoin?Elling













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Answer:Can I get Yoga 2 Pro with trackpoint

The IdeaPad Yogas (11, 11s, 13, 2, 2Pro) do not have the TrackPoint.
==> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/
 
The ThinkPad Yoga, though, does feature the TrackPoint.
==> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/yoga-series/yoga/
 
Hope this helps.
Regards.

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Question: R400 trackpoint

I have a Thinkpad R400 with Windows 7 installed. I have tried several times to activate the trackpoint with no success.I have checked in the bios screen which lists it as active (automatic) but when I check under mice in the control panel it only gives me the touch pad not the track point.I performed a driver update which gave me UntraNav but it has the track point greyed out. Any assistance in this would be greatly appreciated.

Answer:R400 trackpoint

Hi CountryLad, Have you installed Ultranav Utility and Ultranav Driver? Vince. 





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I just purchased an E430 and the "period" key was loose.  Upon receiving and replacing the new keyboard, the trackpoint and left/right clickers now do not work.  I've downloaded the latest UltraNAV driver and that did not work.  I've tried to access my Bios at startup but the F1 key does nothing when my system is booting up.  I know my F1 key works fine, as it enables my mute and Google chrome help when I use it normally.  Any suggestions?  I don't think it's user issue from the new install as every other key on the keyboard works just fine.  Thanks!

Answer:TrackPoint Not Working!!!!

Regarding the trackpoint looks like a hardware issue.Regarding the BIOS access it not shutting down Windows but RESTARTING it.Cheers.





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Is there any way to use the trackpoint on Lenovo computers as a joystick?  I.e. a device that would be useful for a flight simulator?  Essentially, it wouldn't be moving the mouse along a line based on the direction you're pushing it in with a speed based on your finger pressure,  but rather moving the mouse to a stationary position on the screen based on the direction and pressure you're pushing on it with.

Answer:Using the trackpoint as a joystick?

Download the latest version of ppjoy - it comes with a mouse to joystick driver that works well with trackpoint

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My husband has an IBM 660e and yesterday the trackpoint started going crazy. It shoots off in any direction when you try to click on something. He has tried reinstalling drivers and nothing seems to work.

He needs suggestions before he goes as crazy as his trackpoint has gone.

Thank you in advance
 

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OK, T60 Notebook and suddenly the TrackPoint and TouchPad stopped working.  I checked under the ThinkVantage tools and they are enabled.  I checked in the BIOS and the device(s) are enabled there as well.  I've had a TouchPad go bad before but the TrackPoint still worked.  Kinda strange both would go down at the same time.  So, in short: 1.  Has anyone out there experienced this and if so, how did you fix it?2.  Does anyone have the part number for a replacement TouchPad (I've searched the site and could find dang near everything else, but the TouchPad) TIA! 

Answer:TouchPad and TrackPoint

They're integrated parts of the palm rest. A cable connects all integrated parts of the palm rest to the machine. So I guess the cable isn't plugged in firmly enough. Remove the palm rest according to the hardware manual and check. If the cable has no problem, contact Lenovo to ask for a replacement palm rest.





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(Moderator comment: Post from here split into a new thread. Title edited to reflect model.)
 
I'm using a Lenovo T61-8890 A24. It's a pretty old model but has been upgraded to be able to support Win 7 Ultimate 32bit. 
 
I currently am facing a similar issue. In the BIOS, both my trackpoint and touchpad is detected and set to Automatic.
If I remove the entire palm rest and touchpad panel, I'm able to get the trackpoint to work, however once the touchpad is connected, the trackpoint just stops working.
 
I tried to enable it on the Ultranav program but it just doesn't work.
 
I tried the mouse properties and the trackpoint function is greyed out as shown below.
 
Link to image 1
 
When I went into the device manager, the trackpoint is not detected.
 
Link to image 2
 
I tried installing all versions of Ultranav, tried BIOS updates, tried cleaning the connectors, and still can't get the trackpoint to work together with the touchpad. 
 
Any advice to this issue is greatly appreciated.
 
 
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Answer:T61 - can't enable TrackPoint

Hi Dyna, Welcome to the forum. When you say Trackpoint doesn't work, do you mean:1. That trackpoint itself is not workingor 2. The left click, right click and scroll buttons associated with the trackpoint doesn't work. ========Also, you did not mention whether your trackpad works or not. Finally, what happens when you disable the trackpad in the BIOS menu? Does that affect your trackpoint and associated buttons' behaviours?

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Question: Trackpoint Issues

Hi, Just recently my trackpoint in my T61 stopped responding after having a little water in my keyboard near the left function and shift keys.  Attempting to fix the problem, I went to the mouse settings to make sure it was enabled, however the Trackpoint section was grayed out and the enabled box was unchecked. I also checked the BIOS settings and both the Trackpoint and touch pad are set to automatic. I have also uninstalled and reinstalled the Ultranav driver and utility. Is there anything else I should do to fix the problem? The amount of water that got into the keyboard did not look like it was much and evaporated pretty quickly, so I am not sure if this is just a coincidence or it is related to the water being in the keyboard.  I also tried tried the Trackpoint with a Ubuntu Live CD, but it did not work in Ubuntu either. Thanks













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Answer:Trackpoint Issues

Well, I got the problem fixed... I just restarted the computer one more time and the trackpoint started working... Odd. Anyways, I'm glad to have it back.

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Question: trackpoint loose

i just noticed a minute ago that my trackpoint is very very loose on my t61p it comes off with my finger when i lift it. is there any way i can fix it at home? or will it be covered by warranty?





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Answer:trackpoint loose

When you say the TrackPoint is loose, are you refering to the red cap that covers it?  If so, it's probably just worn out and needs to be replaced.  You can order replacements from Lenovo.  The part number is 73P2698, and here in the US, they're $9.99.  Sometimes they're also available on eBay.

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It is my first thinkpad and was wondering what older users would say for it...

Answer:Is trackpoint durable ?

Hi beickus,It is in my standpoint but you don't have to push it hard to test it's limits, play it gently and use soft hands to use it. A simple touch works best, you don't really have to rest your finger on it. Hope it helps.





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Good afternoon all,
We have an older IBM thinkpad 600x, that my husband uses to play simple off line games and read a few emails. The past few days when booting we are getting the error #08611.
From what I have been able to find I believe that this has something to do with the trackpoint.
We use a wireless mouse with this so do not need the track point. Can someone please tell me how to disable the trackpoint?
Thanks!!!
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Answer:IBM thinkpad trackpoint

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Hello I`ve had to clean up my Thinkpad t61p keyboard after an unfortunate incident involving a glass of soda, and now the trackpoint has gone crazy.I had to disable it because it was moving my cursor randomly to corners of the screen.I`ve also seem to have misplaced the little rubber bubble from my scroll button, but that`s not so important at the moment.Any ideas as to what might have gone wrong? thanks

Answer:Messed up my trackpoint

Nevermind, it`s back to normal.Any suggestions as to what I might be able to use as a replacement for the scroll rubber bubble ?

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Question: x230 trackpoint

Hey,sometimes when I move my pointer somwhere and then release trackpoint the pointer goes a little bit backwards. Can it be fixed?Regards 

Answer:x230 trackpoint

TrackPoint drift has been happening as long as I can remember, at least back to the X31.  Release the trackpoint, and it may drift towards the top left.  If you let it drift, it stops after a few seconds and after that works properly.  At least for me this happens infrequently enough so as not to be a big deal.

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Question: Trackpoint problem

First of all, sorry if this questions been asked and answered. I've been searching off an on for several weeks for any online help to a trackpoint annoyance I've been having with no luck. I'm on a T61p running XP. (I upgraded the stock Vista, following an online guide). I have the Ultranav utility installed (I can see and change the options for the trackpoint/touchpad in the mouse control panel). Both the trackpoint and touchpad work. However, every once in a while the trackpoint just becomes totally unresponsive and the mouse pointer refuses to respond or move. For like 3-4 seconds. What's odd is that when this happens, the touchpad still works. (I'm trying to move or scroll with the trackpoint / topmost scroll button+trackpoint with now response, but use other finger to test touchpad and that responds.) It's really odd and really annoying. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any advice? Thanks!

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Does anyone else have this problem?  Where the cursor keeps drifting after you let go when you are using the trackpoint? It doesn't do it all the time for me, but when it does, it kinda gets on my nerves.  Kinda takes the extra percision advantages away. Thanks!





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Answer:Trackpoint Drifting after let go

yeah i have that problem, and i have a friend with the same problem. its just because the rubber doesnt stay seated right on the piece is sitting on, if you push on it too hard. thats my guess, but i could be wrong. i notice if i dont push on the rubber part very hard it keeps that from happening. for some reason i always push straight down on the rubber piece and thats when it does it the most.





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Just couple days ago, my TrackPoint started to get weird. It started to move extremely fast on certain direction, and even I set to the lowest sensitivity, it still move extremely fast. Basically I have no control of the track point anymore. I tried to plug in a notebook mouse with trackpoint turned on, I still can't move my mouse. I have to disable the trackpoint. I even tried to replace the red cap but still no use. Does anyone have this problem and know how to fix this? Thanks.

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E420S, Cannot get either to work. Cannot enable trackpoint or touchpad in UltraNav.

Answer:Trackpoint and Touchpad

Hi, ezedoh
 
The first thing I would recommend is the removal of the UltraNav driver from the system. This is best accomplished by using an external mouse to navigate the system. To uninstall the UltraNav driver, open the Start menu and type Device Managerinto the Search box, and then press Enter. Once here, double click on Mouse and other pointing devices, and then right-click on the UltraNav device. Naviage to the Driver tab and select Uninstall... from the bottom of the window. Follow the prompts to uninstall and then restart when prompted by Windows. Windows should install a generic driver for controlling the mouse. This should reinstate the touchpad to working order. If not, then continue using an external mouse for now. 
 
Once the UltraNav driver has been removed, I would recommend trying to use the standard Synaptics driver found here. Synaptics is the company that develops the UltraNav software, so there should be no loss of compatibility/features. I have witnessed several cases where this driver has helped others with mouse issues, so it may help yours as well.
 
Hope it helps,
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Hi, I have a Thinkpad x30, and die Trackpoint is great! Why is there no S10 or S9 with a Trackpoint? Should be perfect for these Netbooks. Best Regards,Stephan













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Answer:Ideapad S10 - Trackpoint?

Trackpoint is a Thinkpad only feature. This is one of the element tha distinguish Thinkpad from the rest of the Lenovo products.

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Hi all! The new s430 just arrived, containing some annoying problems :/ . One of them is the following: The Touchpad and the Trackpoint are not working at all. I can t de/activate them in the Win7-system-control. The drivers are up-to-date. Could it be a driver/software-problem? Greetings,Bvbnudel   

Answer:No Touchpad and Trackpoint

Hi Bvbnudel, Touchpad and Trackpoint are indeed different components, there is a little chance that will fail altogether. I would suggest re-install UltraNav driver and check with antivirus programs. For further assistance, please kindly contact local lenovo.UltraNav driver for Windows 7 (32-bit, 64-bit), Vista (32-bit, 64-bit) and XP (32-bit, 64-bit) - ThinkPadhttp://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS019164Worldwide Support Center phone list for ThinkPad, ThinkCentre and ThinkStation systemshttp://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=PD008370Fred





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After just a few months of usage, my W510's TrackPoint cap came loose. I ordered a three-part TrackPoint cap collection on eBay. Alas, the caps don't fit.
 
No surprise if you look at this photo of a non-W-series keyboard with the cap removed. The TrackPoint post in my W-series ThinkPad is yellow rather than black and significantly smaller:
 
Link to picture
 
Also, the W-series is prominently absent from the list of supported models in Lenovo's specs of the replacement caps.
 
Anyone know if replacement caps for the W-series are available?
 
Also, how would I attach the cap? Just pushing it back didn't really do it for my original cap, it kept coming loose.
 
 
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Answer:Replacement TrackPoint cap?

some of the cap collection on ebay is fake. The W510 uses the same keyboard as mine T400s, and the real Lenovo trackpoint from T60 fits the T400s keyboard perfectly.

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Hello, guys. I recently purchased the Thinkpad T420 and so far am very satisfied. I noticed a problem though. I wanted to use the track point so I pressed FN + F8 and nothing. Figured ok, I'll go to through the control panel. Pressed on the mouse option under devices and printers. There is no trackpoint tab or the nav. I clicked on all the tabs. All I have are wheel, hardware, pointing device, buttons, pointers, and pointer options. Please help! Before I had an old IBM thinkpad and the trackpoint worked. One of the greatest assets! Thanks.

Answer:t420 trackpoint does not work

Hi Gallydif,
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
As per the query we understood that you are facing an issue with Trackpoing on your ThinkPad T420.
I think you have not installed the drivers for that, please run ThinkVantage system update tool to install all the latest drivers for your system. http://support.lenovo.com/in/hi/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t42...
Hope this helps.
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Hi, I encounter the following issues with my Thinkpad T430s:- sometimes the mouse pointer starts moving on its on, always towards the same direction and always at the same speed. Rebooting temporarily resolves the issue until it occurs again. Reducing the sensitivity in the driver software does not have any impact. Pressing the trackpoint and letting go does nothing to stop it. - the left mouse button acts like a weird combination of a left click + some function that brings up context menus, if available (e.g. on desktop). This happens using the trackpoint, touchpad and sometimes even when using an external mouse. - Right mouse button does not function at all. No matter what function is assigned to it in the driver software, it does not work. External mouse works. All this ONLY happens if the trackpoint is ENABLED in BIOS. If I disabled the trackpoint in the BIOS, touchpad and all mouse buttons work fine. I tried Windows 10 and Windows 7. The problems occur under both operating systems using different driver software. Therefore, I do believe this to be a hardware issue. Anyone has experienced this issues and knows a good way to fix it? Thanks in advance! 

Answer:T430s trackpoint issue

I cannot be sure without seeing it, but my guess is that you need a keyboard

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Hi, not sure where to do this (or if maybe the issues are actually caused by some hardware issue), but I'd like to request an update to the trackpoint speed in the next Ultranav driver release.   I currently have my trackpoint speed cranked all the way up, along with my overall mouse speed, and have turned off pointer precision enhancement (which also slows mouse speed); but still have to work to move the cursor around the screen using the trackpoint.  This also makes it extemely difficult to control the cursor when I connect an external mouse (e.g., when I'm using the laptop at my office workstation). I'd say the speed is only getting up to about 3/4ths of the speed of my X201's trackpoint (if that).  This is not only inconvenient, but also frequently causes the tackpoint to lose its inertia settings so that it starts to drift uncontrollably up (or down) the screen (usually caused by slowly scrolling through a document).  This happens daily.   With this issue and the loss of the press-to-select feature, the trackpoint on the new 240 has been very, very disappointing.  It's a shame that such a useful feature has been so handicapped by the changes in the new machine.  Please bring back the old trackpoint (or fix these issues with software). - Chris

Answer:x240 trackpoint speed

Does anyone know if there's a registry setting that might allow me to increase the sensitivity of the trackpoint?  I'm going crazy trying to push the cursor around the screen on this laptop... Thanks,Chris

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Hello,I have a new issue since i updated my t60p. I opened it to add a SSD and a new processor (T7200), and since i reassembled it, my trackpoint doesn't work unless i unplug the palm rest (so the touchpad id unplugged).If I plug the palm rest, the trackpoint stops to work. It does it even on a linux live cd, so it is not a driver problem.In the bios both trackpoint and touchpad are set on "automatic".Do you know this issue guys ?Thanks

Answer:[T60p] Trackpoint issue

This is odd, but if what you report is 100% accurate, then it must be caused by the disassembly, so I would suspect the keyboard connector. Try unplugging and replugging it on the system board. While it's off take a good look at both connectors with a jewers loop, see if you see any damage. If you do, don't go any further without extreme caution. The keyboard can be replaced very inexpensively, but if you damage the connector on the board, you're looking at a lot of work and money. I'll also state that I've done this hundreds of times and never had a problem like this, so it really sounds more like a software problem, but I won't doubt that you have ruled out that posibility, but you might want to double check. Also make sure all the other keys work on your keyboard...  in fact you may want to do that first. If your connector is damaged or not seated properly, it's probable that other keys won't be working too. There are many software programs to test keyboards, There are also online tests you can use. I found this one on a google search, but I make no claims to it's function, or the safety of the webpage.... keyboardtester.com So use it at your own risk





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When I'm moving pointer by trackpad and make a click by using trackpad's buttom button, trackpad including all buttons and trackpoint stops working. However mouse connected via bluetooth remains working.Sending notebook to sleep and awakening solves the problem. These are TouchPad information from Synaptics control panel:Synaptics ClickPad V1.2 on SMB PortDriver Version: 19.3.4.61Firmware Version: 1.2Interface: SMBPlease, help...

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Hello I have recently purchased a lenovo thinkpad r500 form a thrift store near me but they have reinstalled windows vista 32bit on the computer and i have lost all of the original lenovo programs and i have tried to run the driver setup for the trackpoint but it says the drivers cannot be installed on a non trackpoint system Many ThanksMichael 

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Hi all, I'm having some issues with TrackPoint in my X240.I am using 'trackpoint only' mode (not classic.. mode becaues it disables gestures - which are quite usefull btw) Problem is, that sometimes clickpad have problems with left click recognition. It is really annoying, I have to click few times to actually click.I think it is worse after last software updates (lenovo ultra nav) Does anyone have this issue too?  Maybe Lenovo can add 3 physical buttons to my X240?













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Answer:X240 TrackPoint problems

Yes. This issue comes with the latest driver, see: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X1-Carbon-Gen2-Using-TrackPad-for-TrackPoint-b... You are not the only one. Revert back to 18.0.7.34 - works much better. (http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440-Synaptics-UltraNav-Driver-180734-Down...

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Hello, I usually have my laptop connected though the ethernet, so I have the wireless radios turned off. I have my TrackPoint mouse set to the highest sensivity level in both the mouse settings in the control panel and in the ultranav software. When I want to use the wireless network, I flip the switch and the wireless radios come on. Incedentally, when I do that, the mouse becomes less sensitive. So every time I turn on the wireless radio, I have to go to the control panel and change the sensitivity back to high. The ultranav software is not affected. The settings also get reverted to default when I turn on the laptop while the wireless radios are on. Does anyone know how to make the mouse stay at the highest sensivity level regardless of whether the radios are on or off?

Answer:Problem With My TrackPoint W510

hi rgoode,with regards to this, could you uninstall the ultranav software and drivers from your system,then let windows install its generic drivers. once generic drivers has been installed, change the sensitivity settings for the mouse and see if there is a difference when wifi mode is on and off.once done, go to http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-74582.html download the latest ultranav software and driver.do a test again.





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Just upgraded from a T43P to a W500 and instantly I can notice how messed up the trackpoint mouse is.It just jumps randomly on its own!! Also...using the left click button does not actually click the link but thepointer actually jumps and settles down on a different part of the screen after clicking.Also every now and then, the trackpoint will stop moving the pointer(freeze) and it recovers after 4-5 seconds.This is really frustrating!! Anyone else seen this before?  DD

Answer:W500 trackpoint problems

Hello Desidon: I have always found the trackpoint device (the pointing stick) to be one of the most reliable things on ThinkPads.  I upgraded from a T42P to a W500, and did not notice any difference in trackpoint function - the stick on the W500 works as well as the stick on the T42P did. The operating system itself (Vista or XP) offers some 'options' that, if enabled, might be what is causing the unexpected behaviour you are experiencing.  If you go to the mouse control panel and have a look around in there, you will find that there is an option that causes the pointer to automatically jump to the default acceptance button in dialog boxes whenever dialog boxes appear.  I have turned that option off, I find that it is distracting. By default, both the touchpad and the trackpoint stick are enabled.  I have disabled the touchpad on my W500 because I find that I often inadvertently activated the touchpad when I am typing or otherwise operating the computer.  You can easily turn the touchpad off (while leaving the trackpoint on), the control for that is in the Mouse control panel under the "UltraNav" tab.  My guess is that if you turn off the above two options, 99% of your problems will disappear. There have been issues reported with the cursor on the screen occasionally freezing up.  That is being discussed in a different discussion (Temporary but DAILY mouse / system freezing (W500 w/ Vista Business 32), and we have no... Read more

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Hi  I just got my new T440 today. After the automatic installation of win 7 the trackpoint did not work. Then i looked in the  control panal -> mouse -> thinkPad and saw that both the trackpoint touchpad were enabled. In order to fix the problem I downloaded the latest ultranav driver -> uninstalled the old version -> rebooted -> installed the new version - > rebooted, but it still does not work. As far as I can see all the functionality (the different gesture commands) of the touchpad is working so I guess the ultranav driver is correctly installed.  Does any one have and idea what could be the problem? Thanks in advance!

Answer:Trackpoint not working on t440

Just updated the bios with no luck. I also checked that the trackpoint is enabled in the bios.

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Hello, I am using a ThinkPad T60 with Windows XP SP3 as operating system. On the homepage I found the following different drivers and utilities related to the TrackPoint and theTouchPad:TrackPoint Accessibility DriverUltraNav DriverUltraNav UtilityUltraNav Wizard The TrackPoint Accessibility Driver and the UltraNav Wizard are not updated since 2006, the UltraNav Driver and the UltraNav Utilitywere updated some times (last in 2008). Do I need tto install all of them, or can I ignore some of them (preferably the older ones) without loosing functionnalit? Michele

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Just wondering if it was possible to remap the trackpoint buttons to something like back/forward in a browser... thanks













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hey phil5,
 
that will not be possible.





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TrackPoint (the red cap) stops working, while the TouchPad stays fully functional.  And, after any reboot, or just simply wakes from sleep, my TrackPoint comes back. It's really wired. Any ideas? X1 Carbon 2rd (2014), Type 20A8. Windows 10. I have got BIOS, ultranav and ACPI drivers updated.  Thanks.

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I had a user complain of their mouse being frozen. At first I thought it was crashed but the keyboard is still working fine. With an external mouse connected the mouse would move on the screen.   Is there a key combo that will disable both devices? I'm wondering if this was pressed. If I uninstall the drivers and software then the Touchpad and Touchpad only worked, when I reinstalled the drivers both of them again failed to move the mouse.  It is acting as if they have been disabled.  When I open the mouse properties in the controll panel and go to the UltraNav tab this is what I get 













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Answer:X1 touch pad & trackpoint not working

these is no key combo that i have tried that can disable them. Is these device disabled under System Property in System (under control panel?)

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Looking for a new notebook. Cannot easily tell from the usual descriptions which have a trackpoint pointing device. A list of models or model families would be very helpful.Thanks: Leon

Answer:Which new notebook models have trackpoint?

I am not sure any HP laptops still have a trackpoint. All Lenovo Thinkpads still have them. There is virtually no consumer demand for trackpoints, a huge majority prefers the touchpad. I still use the trackpoint on my Thinkpad, but also use the touchpad.

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Hi guys, Since updated to Windows 10, horizontal scrolling with trackpoint becomes unavailble in many situations such as in the PDF reader app or in excel... Anyone else having the same problem??

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T40 Details:2373-92U I've been having this problem with my trackpoint and ultranav mice for quite some time - it seems that only the left button generates any response by the OS, and that response is most often a "right click."  The actual right button is unresponsive.  I've tried the option under "control panel -> mouse -> button configuration -> switch primary and secondary buttons"  whether checked or unchecked, the left button still has the same behavior.  Occasionally, the left button will stop working entirely within a window - apparently the best way to resolve this is to use the left button to click anywhere on the desktop: the context menu appears, and after using the left button to click on any item within the context window the left button will once again become responsive in all windows (although it will still act like the right button when clicking). External USB mice and Bluetooth mice do not have this problem - those mice respond properly to left/right clicks. My best guess is that the keyboard unit (08k4957 or 08k4986) needs to be replaced, however I'm hoping there's a more definitive test I can perform before shelling out the $$ for a new keyboard unit.  I say this because the ultranav mousepad also has the same problem and I see it plugs into a separate location within the laptop - is there another common component within the laptop that could cause common failure between the two built-in mice? Thank... Read more

Answer:T40 Trackpoint Mouse Always "Right-Clicks"

try download the latest ultraNav and trackpoint drivers. If cannot solve, then it could be other issues that cause it.





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anyone know the best software for my T21's trackpoint i cant seem to get the bottom button to act as a scroll wheel type thing pls help 





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Answer:trackpoint scrolling on T21 not working

If you need to reinstall the Trackpoint driver for your unit, here is the link below: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4KMUYL Download and save this file to the desktop and the open the folder and run the setup.exe file You might also need the Trackpoint Accessibility Driver, which can be found here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4Z9QVD See if installing these two drivers will help you. If the drivers are installed correctly and you are still having problems with the trackpoint scrolling, it could possibly be a mechancial issue and the part would need replacement. Let me know if this helps you any. Mark





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When I disable my trackpoint on my T540P it does not really disable, I am still able to use it afterwards. I'd like to disable it completely because it causes my cursor to move on its own. At the moment I have to wiggle it around a few times for the cursor to stop moving on its own and its annoying to do that constantly I used the following tutorial to disable the Trackpoint: https://support.lenovo.com/za/en/solutions/ht117094 Thanks

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Is there a way to increase trackpoint scroll (with middle button) speed? it's too slow!













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Answer:trackpoint scroll speed

I assume you've tried adjusting the TrackPoint firmness?Apply this registry patch:https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/Vertical-scrolling-got-reset-everytime-I...Go to Mouse Properties > Wheel tab. Set the number of lines scrolled to what you want to it to scroll.

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Does anybody know of any third party programs to allow you to custom configure the Trackpoint right button?  I would love to change it from a right click to a "Browser Back" button to allow for easy web surfing.  Wouldn't it be awesome if you could hit that without moving your hands off the keyboard to go back one page in your web browser?





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I want to report several issues with TrackPoint. Basic InfoLaptop: X1 carbon 3rd genModel: 20BT-CTO1WWOS: Windows 10 Pro (upgraded from Win 7 Pro)TouchPad driver: Synaptics ThinkPad UltraNav Driver ver. 19.0.17.2  Issue 1: TrackPoint does not work with MS Office 2016 (except Word).Mid button + TrackPoint cannot scroll horizontally in Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote. Scrolling vertically works well.Horizontal scroll works well with Word 2016, Notepad, Microsft Edge, Firefox, etc.Horizontal scroll works well in Excel 2016 with ThinkPad mouse (model: MORFGOO) with mouse suite. Issue 2: TrackPoint calibrates even in mid button + TrackPoint mode.If you tilt TrackPoint steadily for a few seconds, it calibrates and takes it as new zero position. This is a correct behavior.If you hold mid button and tilt TrackPoint steadily (i.e. scrolling), it should never calibrate. This is another correct behavior which was seen with my previous ThinkPad notepads.However, my X1c TrackPoint calibrates even when mid button is held. After 0.5~1 seconds, the scroll stops. When releasing, the mouse pointer moves automatically. This is annoying. Issue 3: Mouse pointer changes size when mid button is pressed.The same as this post.  I use TrackPoint a lot with Excel and the above issues lower efficiency.I hope there will be new Synaptics driver to resolve the issues. btw, I'm not sure which is the best way to report bugs, because there are tooooooo many Lenovo and ThinkP... Read more

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Hi - can anyone help?T60 with XPThe red TrackPoint & buttons work when first booting up and entering the Windows password. After CSS Authentication fails, the TrackPoint & buttons no longer work but the TouchPad & buttons work.Why would this happen, please?Is it software or hardware?Thank you in advance,John

Answer:T60 TrackPoint and buttons not working

go into your control panel, under mouse is your trackpoint option available.

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I had an X201 and last year upgraded to the x240. Along with the loss of the physical trackpoint buttons, lenovo also drastically changed the trackpoint hardware. The trackpoint height was shortened, the overall sensitivity/acceleration was drastically reduced, and the "press-to-select" functionality was removed. Does anyone know if those issues have also been addressed in the new x250? That is, is this basically the old (better) trackpoint that was used in prevoius models (e.g., the x201), or is it the same (**bleep**ty) trackpoint as in the x240, just with physical buttons.  Thanks,Chris

Answer:x250 Trackpoint Question

Also, I tried to ask this question in a sales chat, and got the response "the trackpad functionality has been designed to reproduce that of older models."   I said I wasn't interested in the trackpad, just the trackpoint, and asked explicitly whether I could register a mouse click by pressing the trackpoint.  That caused the rep (or bot) to disconnect... after two full minutes of waiting I was requed for a new rep.  Thanks Lenovo for that great customer service experience.

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I suddenly find that both the trackpoint and touchpad are not functioning. they are set to Automatic in the BIOS but the UltraNav shows them grayed out.History:I had recently installed the system update "systemupdate314-2008-5-15.exe" when I had this problem (the key board also had stopped responding). The problem persisted but got rectified after a few restarts. But it now recurs again (though the keyboard is fine now). I also had recently removed the palmrest and tightened the touchpad connection when it had stopped working. It was fine till recently.Can you please suggest a remedy..

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Hi,   I bought an X61 (type: 7673-BE9) last month. Now I have met a trackpoint issue. It will not work at any time: no response to left and right buttons, no response to the red stick. If I reboot the system, it maybe works or doesn't. In the later case,  I noticed that there was a yellow exclamation mark before trackpoint in the hardware management.   I have tried to reinstall the trackpoint driver(4.62), but it was helpless. Here's my system information:    OS:    Windows XP sp2    BIOS: 2.07    Trackpoint Driver Version: 4.62   Would anyone please help me? Thanks a lot.                                Best Regards                                  Thiross
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I have an X40 running Windows XP. The trackpoint has been getting harder to move, and I think it's giving me RSI.I replaced the cap, which was very worn, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.The Thinkpad help function says to use the Mouse Properties dialogue box to adjust the sensitivity slide bar, but there is no sensitivity setting in this dialogue box, only speed.Can anyone help please?

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hello,my touchpad and my trackpoint does not work I opened my thinkpad edge 15 and I saw that the flat cable was very damaging is it AC or other chause and where can I find this flat cable?thank fireoc

Answer:my touchpad and trackpoint is not working

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Anyone else have this problem? http://coreldraw.com/forums/t/2176.aspx?PageIndex=2 After using the trackpoint scrolling, the screen contents of CorelDraw disappear.  According to Corel, this is a problem with the trackpoint drivers.

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The trackpoint on this e540 keeps moving after I let it go. The issue arrises when I move the cursor downwards - it then moves upwards on its own, sometimes for several seconds. This happens quite often, and when it happens it obviously makes clicking things hard. I guess it doesn't matter since I'm returning it anyway because of all the issues.

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Hi,   I bought an X61 (type: 7673-BE9) last month. Now I have met a trackpoint issue. It will not work at any time: no response to left and right buttons, no response to the red stick. If I reboot the system, it maybe works or doesn't. In the later case,  I noticed that there was a yellow exclamation mark before trackpoint in the hardware management.   I have tried to reinstall the trackpoint driver(4.62), but it was helpless. Here's my system information:    OS:    Windows XP sp2    BIOS: 2.07    Trackpoint Driver Version: 4.62   Would anyone please help me? Thanks a lot.                                Best Regards                                  Thiross

Answer:X61 trackpoint doesn't work

Hi, Im experiencing exactly the same Problems on my X61. I was using Windows Vista for three month and had no problems at all. The strange mouse behaviour just started after installing Windows XP. The funny thing is that the mouse stops working some seconds after the GUI boot. So i tried to kill all of the trackpoint tasks running, but I didnt find any task being responsible for this behaviour. My next try will be to stop some drivers and see if I can find the problem here.Did you find any other solution?Best regards,dkirsten

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