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Trackpoint Drifting after let go

Question: Trackpoint Drifting after let go

Does anyone else have this problem? Where the cursor keeps drifting after you let go when you are using the trackpoint? It doesn't do it all the time for me, but when it does, it kinda gets on my nerves. Kinda takes the extra percision advantages away. Thanks!





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Answer: Trackpoint Drifting after let go

yeah i have that problem, and i have a friend with the same problem. its just because the rubber doesnt stay seated right on the piece is sitting on, if you push on it too hard. thats my guess, but i could be wrong. i notice if i dont push on the rubber part very hard it keeps that from happening. for some reason i always push straight down on the rubber piece and thats when it does it the most.





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Hi! Just got a new T410. Since the first start of the system the mouse pointer is drifting over the monitor (upwards). When I remove the trackpoint cap nothing changes. The only thing to stop the drifting is to switch off the track point. Do you have an idea how I can stop this drifting of the track point?

Answer:drifting mouse pointer with trackpoint

Welcome to the forum!
 
Check to make sure you're not resting your finger on the TrackPoint when you're not actively using it.  That may stop the drifting that's going on.

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For a while now, I have wondered why the virtual buttons shown in the utility http://imgur.com/Lljj1Z7 don?t function as advertised. According to the utility, I should get a left click if I depress the left are of the touchpad, a middle click if I push on the bumps, and a right click if I depress the right half of the touchpad. In my experience, I get a left click regardless of where I depress the touchpad. The only exception is when I depress the bumps in the top middle of the touchpad?when I do that, the mouse enters some weird scrolly mode where I scan scroll stuff with the trackpoint. It definitely does not emit a middle click. But, more importantly, I cannot figure out how to get trackpoint mode to emit a right click. How do I get trackpoint classic mode to work? Is there a way to downgrade the drive or use a non-lenovo branded driver to get it to behave properly? Right now, I?m relying on an external mouse just to middle click and right click. I?m using Windows 10 b10240 and, as in the post?s title, my trackpoint driver is the latest listed on Lenovo?s support site (which I think WU actually installed for me)?19.0.12.61. Why don?t the virtual buttons work and are there any other workarounds that don?t involve using a mode other than Trackpoint Classic?













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Answer:T540p unable to right-click with virtual buttons in trackpoint or trackpoint classic mode 19.0.12.61

Seems to have partially fixed iteslf since Windows Update (WU) installed 19.0.16. Now the right half of my touchpad performs a right click when in TrackPad Classic mode. However, the supposed ?middle click? zone still does a weird scrolly mode instead of sending a middle click. Guess I still have to use an external mouse to accomplish a middle click when using Classic TrackPoint mode, but at least the situtaion is better than when I couldn?t right click with this mode.

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Question: Drifting away

There seems to be a lot of posts recently where there is no feedback from the poster, to acknowledge if the solution given either helped or resolved the problem

Answer:Drifting away

Sadly that is often the case. You may have also noted that very often the subject heading does not match the problem.

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Hi, I got an S230u Twist last autumn and have been really happy with it. At the time, I ordered a set of replacement rubber TrackPoint caps. When I replaced the original cap the other day, I realised that the replacement ones are about 0.5mm shorter than the original one, with the result that the H and G keys get caught on the edge of the cap; you have to hit them quite hard to get them to work. I compared all the new caps from the packet against the original one, and sure enough; they're all a little too short. They fit, but it's annoying to have to go back and make sure all my ""G"s and "H"s typed correctly.  Has anyone else had the same problem? Lenovo, could this just have been a bad batch, and if so can I return the unused ones for a replacement set that is the correct height? 

Answer:S230u - replacement trackpoint TrackPoint caps are too short

If you bought them from Lenovo I'd just try and return them. If not dispute on eBay/PayPal/Credit Card. But never use poor quality TrackPoint Caps. Remember if a computer is running efficiently so is the person behind it generally. 





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Question: Drifting cursor

Could anybody help with a drifting cursor problem that is making working on my Sony Vaio laptop very frustrating and time consuming; the cursor has a mind of his own, it tends to move in any direction at random and if I am in Explorer, at times, it transfers files from one location to another;

This problem seemed to happen a few week after I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10; Everything else appears to work very satisfactorily;

Any suggestion would be appreciated;

max22

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Question: Mouse is drifting

Hi
Can anyone help me please, just purchased a HP Laptop,
and the past few days the mouse seems to have a mind of
its own. It just seems to drift all over the screen.

Answer:Mouse is drifting

I believe that is the mouse driver. See if you can find and install a different version.

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Ok, one more quick question before I get into the garden:At times the pointer on my laptop becomes hard to move around the screen as it wants to shoot up to the top or bottom of the screen for 20 seconds or so then it behaves normally again. This is related to the 'stick' in the keyboard that I use, the track-pad always seems to work fine.Please, any ideas?Cheers, Nick Jones.

Answer:"Drifting pointers Batman!"

Have you got your gardening gloves on when this happens? :} Sorry, couldn't resist it. I hate both joy-sticks and track pads. Can you not plug it a proper mouse?

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I have noticed that my razer naga often drifts on the screen for no apparent reason.

The odd thing is, I can isolate it to certain usb ports on my computer. It won't drift as often on a front port as it will when plugged into the mobo ports.

I've eliminated vibration as the cause for this.

Any suggestions?

Answer:Razer Naga Drifting

Any firmware updates for the mouse?

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Hi, I wonder whether there is a way to enable press-to-click for the trackpoint on the new x1? In the respective settings there is no such options and I searched everywhere, somebody found it? Next question: In order to avoid the annoying noise of the clickpad everytime you press it, I would like to use the tap function of the touchpad while using the trackpoint to move the cursor. Unfortunately, tapping on the pad seems to be disabled during use of trackpoint - any smart hack to get this workig? Thanks to all,J

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My Logitech Marble mouse (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5003) cursor is constantly drifting upward accross the screen -any idea why that would be?
It's a trackball mouse -if that makes any difference, and I *have* cleaned it out.
-But still: the cursor drifts slowly up the screen if left un-attended.
Any idea why that is -or, especially, how to fix it?
Thanks for your time.
(I know that a Mouse is a piece of Hardware -I just assumed that it is a driver/software issue that is causing the problem, so I decided to post to the Software forum)
 

Answer:Logitech Marble Mouse drifting

fiver22 said:



My Logitech Marble mouse (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5003) cursor is constantly drifting upward accross the screen -any idea why that would be?
It's a trackball mouse -if that makes any difference, and I *have* cleaned it out.
-But still: the cursor drifts slowly up the screen if left un-attended.
Any idea why that is -or, especially, how to fix it?
Thanks for your time.
(I know that a Mouse is a piece of Hardware -I just assumed that it is a driver/software issue that is causing the problem, so I decided to post to the Software forum)Click to expand...

I have an idea of what it may be. That is the only mouse I have used for the past 3 or 4 years. I am brutal with mine. I like to drag the mouse around.
Sometimes it's in my lap, or on the arm of my chair. I move it to
wherever I want my arm sitting at. Which means dragging the wire
all over the place. But I love that I can do that. Balltracks are the best!
But anyway, I have messed up the chord on 2 of them (from yanking
on the chord so often) and had to
replace them. And the first sign that I have damaged another chord
is when the mouse starts floating.

I finally put together a computer with front panel usb, and now I don't have to pull so hard on the cable to get the mouse where I want it.
Hence, my present mouse has lasted over a year without any new damage.
 

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Hi all,I've tried numerous other forums (including logitech's forums) and I can't seem to get a fix for this.  I have a wireless optical mouse which works great for me on my windows 7 platform.  It's really old now so i've tried to purchase a new wireless mouse (this time laser). Both my new mouse and old mouse have the latest drivers installed.  Here's the odd thing.....if i get a piece of paper and draw a circle on it and then trace that circle with my OPTICAL mouse over and over, my cursor on the screen does the same and that circle stays in the same place on the screen.  However, if i try to do this with a Logitech LASER mouse (I've tried 2 different ones now). The circle will slowly move down the screen even though I'm continually circling the same spot on the mouse pad.  It's almost as if it's slowly drifting down.  I can also see this if I move the mouse up and down in a 2 to 3 inch range on exactly the same place....the old OPTICAL mouse will remain in the same place as I do this, but the laser mice will slowly move down even though the mouse is not leaving the spot where the line is drawn.  I've tried turning off the mouse acceleration, trying different mouse pads, moving any interference items like routers or cell phones....all to no avail.  All the drivers are up to date as well.  Most people who just surf don't notice this but a gamer does....any suggestions?&n... Read more

Answer:Mouse issues (slight drifting)

Most later model logitech mice are great for gaming, I use one myself and have had no issues with it.First check the table is flat and not sloping a bit. Laser mouse should be way more accurate than an optical.Next make sure if also using a touthpad, etc, it's not interfering - if so disabled it.Changing PS/2 port might solve your problem, USB connection is much better to use.It could be your purchased mouse is faulty, if still under warranty you should be able to get it replaced for free.I would also suggest going wired for any mouse, it's annoying for gamers due to long hours playing + batteries = instant death and also interference from other electrical devices such as your sound system, monitor, etc. Also don't use a wireless for the net when online gaming, lag and more interference!I use the Razer mousepads, it's a large surface smooth area and the texture on those makes the mouse high accuracy - great for hardcore first person shooter games.

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Hi, I've been having real issues with my new Lenovo Z500 on Win8 and the big one at the moment is its inability to keep time. After a reboot it will maintain the time that I shut it down. Then after that it will proceed to drift. For example whilst working away I had a film on. I checked the time at the end of the film as it must have been getting late yet according to my laptop it was only about 30 minutes later.  This is becoming a massive pain. Files all have the incorrect date and having a clock that can't keep time is next to useless. On a very old PC I'd assume its the CMOS battery on its way out but I've only had the laptop a few days! I'd probably void my warranty replacing it anyway. Any help would be much appreciated. Richard













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Answer:Lenovo Z500 can't keep time (clock drifting)

HiIs this the same in the bios? If yes, it may well be the CMOS and you might have to consider contacting lenovo care since as you said, doing it yourself will void warranty.If bios reports the time correctly, then the installed windows might be at fault and you might have to do a factory reset to check via one key recovery.Regards





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I understand that there is no specific driver for the precision trackpads on these laptops (only the generic Windows driver), but the drifting cursor is driving me crazy. I've tried all different mouse & touchpad settings and updated my laptop to Windows 10 Anniversary edition, but the cursor still moves on its own when I browse websites (Chrome)..
Is there anything else I can try to get a normal trackpad that only moves when I do?

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I have a document that I use to fill in names and dates on a pre-printed certificate. I use text boxes to fill in the information. I used to be able to print all of my certificates sequentually and they would stay properly aligned. Recently the text boxes have started drifting when I'm printing multiple certificates. I have to move the boxes after 4-5 certificates because the text keeps drifting up.

Answer:Text boxes are drifting when printing in Word 2007

Not using form feed between pages? Then page height or line spacing has changed.

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A friend of mine played a burned CD for me in his car the other day to demonstrate a strange behavior. The CD gets to about track four or five and begins to get staticy (staticky?) It progressively gets worse rather quickly until the player loses the track. It picks it up right away like nothing happened. He informs me it happens at random spots on the disk, usually on the fourth or fifth track. It was probably burned using MyMP3 Pro v.4, and I don't know anything about the player other than it looks like a stock Suzuki OEM piece. Odd.
 

Answer:Digital audio "drifting"

LG drive?

The laser is going. I had a DVD-CD R that died the same wasy, wouldn't play DVD's and every other or few CD's were screwed up.
 

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Question: Trackpoint

I T440s which I updated to Windows 10.  I updated the Lenovo drivers after updating and I have the latest Trackpaad/trackpoint drivers.  I want to use the track point but not the touchpad.  When I go into settings and choose either "Classic Trackpoint" or "Trackpoint Only", the buttons on the trackpad do not work.  Help, Please. Jim

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Question: Trackpoint gone...

I did the usual "Windows update" this morning. After the installation had completed I noticed that my Trackpoint has "disappeared"! There is no reaction whatsoever when pressing the red dot and I can't control the mouse with it any more. I then checked in the control panel (no trace) and then had to learn, that it doesn't even exist in the device manager, either. I then rebooted, no change. I then even powered off and reboot from power off again, still no trackpoint! And after I downloaded the trackpoint driver from the Lenovo drivers download site and wanted to (re-)install the driver, I got an error message "this driver can not be installed on non-trackpoint systems". ?!? What? What the %@[email protected]#*%?  Where has my trackpoint gone??? How come, that it has completely disappeared? How do I get this thing working again? Edited: I later noticed, that a part of that Windows Update apparently was a new "Wacom Two Finger Touch" driver. Might that have to do with my disappeared Trackpoint? Michael PS.: Boy - is this annoying to have to work without Trackpoint! 













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Answer:Trackpoint gone...

I just had to learn that there is a Fn-key (F8) that allows to enable/disable Trackpoint and Touchpad. I must have accidentally operated that button without noticing (in fact, I hadn't even known before that there IS such an option...).Its setting was on "Touchpad only". After re-enabling the trackpoint there everything came back to normal. Wheew. What a relieve! :-) And it (most probably) had nothing to do with the Windows Update - just an unlucky conincidence! Michael

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Question: Trackpoint cap

I'm not sure if this is the place I'm supposed to post this. I absolutely hate the trackpoint when I type.  I type quite fast and I hit the trackpoint every once in a while -- but this is enough to really get on my nerves.  It's absolutely distracting.  Imagine typing out your thoughts then all of a sudden you hit the thing, get distracted, then irritated, and your thoughts gone.  ThinkPads are supposed to help you think.  The trackpoint unfortunately doesnt...  Are there a replacement tips that's depressed enough (and maybe colored black...) so that I dont hit it accidentally when I type?  Removing the tip works fine -- but it looks so ugly without it (makes it look like i'm using a broken equipment). Oh and I dont mind if the replacement cap will render the trackpoint unusable.  I just need it low enough so I dont accidentally hit it.













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Answer:Trackpoint cap

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/vlar-443ltu.html
 
these are the three different types of trackpoint caps. You might get lucky with the first type and there is no black trackpoint caps produced by Lenovo. 
 
You can disable the trackpoint by pressing Fn + F8 in windows and then select trackpad only. You can also disable trackpoint from BIOS menu. 

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E420S, Cannot get either to work. Cannot enable trackpoint or touchpad in UltraNav.

Answer:Trackpoint and Touchpad

Hi, ezedoh
 
The first thing I would recommend is the removal of the UltraNav driver from the system. This is best accomplished by using an external mouse to navigate the system. To uninstall the UltraNav driver, open the Start menu and type Device Managerinto the Search box, and then press Enter. Once here, double click on Mouse and other pointing devices, and then right-click on the UltraNav device. Naviage to the Driver tab and select Uninstall... from the bottom of the window. Follow the prompts to uninstall and then restart when prompted by Windows. Windows should install a generic driver for controlling the mouse. This should reinstate the touchpad to working order. If not, then continue using an external mouse for now. 
 
Once the UltraNav driver has been removed, I would recommend trying to use the standard Synaptics driver found here. Synaptics is the company that develops the UltraNav software, so there should be no loss of compatibility/features. I have witnessed several cases where this driver has helped others with mouse issues, so it may help yours as well.
 
Hope it helps,
Adam





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I just purchased an E430 and the "period" key was loose.  Upon receiving and replacing the new keyboard, the trackpoint and left/right clickers now do not work.  I've downloaded the latest UltraNAV driver and that did not work.  I've tried to access my Bios at startup but the F1 key does nothing when my system is booting up.  I know my F1 key works fine, as it enables my mute and Google chrome help when I use it normally.  Any suggestions?  I don't think it's user issue from the new install as every other key on the keyboard works just fine.  Thanks!

Answer:TrackPoint Not Working!!!!

Regarding the trackpoint looks like a hardware issue.Regarding the BIOS access it not shutting down Windows but RESTARTING it.Cheers.





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Question: T440s - Trackpoint

I T440s which I updated to Windows 10.  I updated the Lenovo drivers after updating and I have the latest Trackpaad/trackpoint drivers.  I want to use the track point but not the touchpad.  When I go into settings and choose either "Classic Trackpoint" or "Trackpoint Only", the buttons on the trackpad do not work.  Help, Please.
 
Jim
 
 
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Question: Choppy Trackpoint

I know I just posted a thread, but I figured that issue is global enough to warranty its own. But this one seems to be specific to me.I'm a new Thinkpad (and trackpoint) user, and the trackpoint is very choppy for me. It seems to skip frames. For example, making a circular motion with the trackpad results in a continuous, smooth motion. But not so with the trackpoint. It seems to be micro-jumping (or skipping frames as I prefer to call it). This is easily noticeable when holding down the middle trackpoint button and attempting to scroll a page. The page does not scroll smoothly at all (has nothing to do with smooth scrolling, that's something else and not what I'm talking about).Now this isn't just with this X220. Before the X220 I briefly owned a x120e that had this EXACT same problem. I asked about it and people told me that is not normal. So I returned it and got this X220, but it's the same problem.The weird thing is that while this choppiness is present in Windows, it was just fine during the Windows install process. I've tried: disabling the trackpad, reducing/increasing trapoint sensetivity, updating drivers, removing drivers and reinstalling, bumping the priority of the driver to high. None helped. What are the chances I'd receive two machines with the same problem?

Answer:Choppy Trackpoint

Disabling the trackpad from the BIOS fixed the issue it seems (its definitely much smoother). Diasbling it within Windows did not help. If I recall correctly disabling the trackpad in the x120e from the BIOS was not an option. Too bad. But odd that others do not have this problem. Oh and my palm was not resting on the trackpad

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For the past week or two it seems that the mouse clicks on its own on my T420. This is in TrackPoint only mode (TouchPad disabled) with press to select disabled. This issue is reproducible as it generally happens right after a normal click or unclick. For example, if I highlight text in a word processor by clicking and dragging my cursor over the text when I release the button the system registers a phantom click within the next second or so. I also have noticed these phantom clicks after middle clickling. Does this sound like a possible driver issue or should I go ahead and call to have a tech come out and replace parts?

Answer:TrackPoint clicks on its own

@nibs,Try uninstalling UltraNav, reboot the laptop then install it back and see if it helps. If problem persist then I guess its time to contact the techs.

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Question: Choppy Trackpoint

Hello, Got x120e the other day and I have one question: This is my first Thinkpad (and first time witha trackpoint) - the trackpoint moves kind of choppy. It's not smooth movements like with the trackpad, as if it's missing frames or something. It's still perfectly useable but seems odd. Is this normal?

Answer:Choppy Trackpoint

No, it's not normal.  Mine moves as smooth as the touchpad (if not smoother) and responds to how much I move the stick.  Have you looked into the UltraNav Properties field of the trackpoint?  I'll leave this up to the experts to help you here.  This is my first Lenovo product too. But I'll like to comment that I wish the trackpoint would be at positions where your fingers will be while holding the machine.  The middle position works fine for a bigger laptop, but this is an ultraportable. Remember the IBM PalmTopPC110?  http://www.komotch2.com/tps/pt110.htm And the Toshiba Libretto:  http://www.silverace.com/libretto/libretto100j.jpg Some models' trackpoints are even located at behind the screen (i.e. on the lid).PalmTopPC110

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It is my first thinkpad and was wondering what older users would say for it...

Answer:Is trackpoint durable ?

Hi beickus,It is in my standpoint but you don't have to push it hard to test it's limits, play it gently and use soft hands to use it. A simple touch works best, you don't really have to rest your finger on it. Hope it helps.





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I have an odd problem.  When I bootup to the login screen, the mouse is disabled.  I can use the keyboard just fine, but I can't move the mouse at all.  It's more of an annoyance than anything, but if anyone knows how to enable the mouse at startup, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your help,--sam

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(Moderator comment: Post from here split into a new thread. Title edited to reflect model.)
 
I'm using a Lenovo T61-8890 A24. It's a pretty old model but has been upgraded to be able to support Win 7 Ultimate 32bit. 
 
I currently am facing a similar issue. In the BIOS, both my trackpoint and touchpad is detected and set to Automatic.
If I remove the entire palm rest and touchpad panel, I'm able to get the trackpoint to work, however once the touchpad is connected, the trackpoint just stops working.
 
I tried to enable it on the Ultranav program but it just doesn't work.
 
I tried the mouse properties and the trackpoint function is greyed out as shown below.
 
Link to image 1
 
When I went into the device manager, the trackpoint is not detected.
 
Link to image 2
 
I tried installing all versions of Ultranav, tried BIOS updates, tried cleaning the connectors, and still can't get the trackpoint to work together with the touchpad. 
 
Any advice to this issue is greatly appreciated.
 
 
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Answer:T61 - can't enable TrackPoint

Hi Dyna, Welcome to the forum. When you say Trackpoint doesn't work, do you mean:1. That trackpoint itself is not workingor 2. The left click, right click and scroll buttons associated with the trackpoint doesn't work. ========Also, you did not mention whether your trackpad works or not. Finally, what happens when you disable the trackpad in the BIOS menu? Does that affect your trackpoint and associated buttons' behaviours?

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Hi all! The new s430 just arrived, containing some annoying problems :/ . One of them is the following: The Touchpad and the Trackpoint are not working at all. I can t de/activate them in the Win7-system-control. The drivers are up-to-date. Could it be a driver/software-problem? Greetings,Bvbnudel   

Answer:No Touchpad and Trackpoint

Hi Bvbnudel, Touchpad and Trackpoint are indeed different components, there is a little chance that will fail altogether. I would suggest re-install UltraNav driver and check with antivirus programs. For further assistance, please kindly contact local lenovo.UltraNav driver for Windows 7 (32-bit, 64-bit), Vista (32-bit, 64-bit) and XP (32-bit, 64-bit) - ThinkPadhttp://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS019164Worldwide Support Center phone list for ThinkPad, ThinkCentre and ThinkStation systemshttp://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=PD008370Fred





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Hi All,Could someone help me to identify if my trackpoint on the T420S is broken?The images are here,http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7643/fig1k.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/199/fig2h.jpg  In the first image, the red trackpoint can easily come out of the fixture on the keyboard. If I take out the red cap, there is a black thing as shown in second image located on key "G."  I try to jam it into the fixture, but did not work out.Should this black thing need to always stay in the fixture?Is it just be glued to the fixture?Should I ask Lenovo for a service?Thanks for your help.  

Answer:Is my trackpoint broken?

The images don't work, however, I think I understand.  The Trackpoint is a red rubber cap that just fits on a black plastic post between the G, H, and B keys.  It lifts right off of the black plastic post.  The post is a permanent part of the keyboard.  The "eraser" head is user replaceable when necessary. The underside of the Trackpoint "eraser" is hollowed out to fit over the black post.  It is snug, but does not require "jamming."  When in place, does it work?

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Now that the 5th gen Thinkpad is here, the decline of the trackpoint becomes ever clearer.  Frankly, most of us would not be buying Thinkpads if they didn't have the trackpoint.  That's the X1's main advantage.  But Lenovo keeps making it worse.  First, the trackpoint caps that will fit the gen 4 and 5 come in only one, unpopular, variant and you can't get the soft rim version.  But more importantly, Lenovo keeps on degrading the software control of the trackpoint.  It used to be that you could adjust the sensitivity of the trackpoint, making it more or less stiff.  Even the softest setting was inadequate but it was something.  In the 5gen there is no option to change the stiffness or responsiveness of the trackpoint's movements at all.  Lenovo: hear your customers!! Please make the trackpoint MORE not less adjustable. 

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I recently got a Thinkpad T420.  One of my favorite features is the nub, but for the past few days the nub has been impossible to use.  It will click things randomly and rapidly and also freezes and shakes the mouse.  Once I deactivate trackpoint it works fine, but it's one of my favorite features. I just bought the computer two weeks ago so I can't imagine the keyboard breaking already. Is it a software problem or something?













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Answer:TrackPoint Problems

@OutWeRoll,Check and see if you have the latest UltraNav Driver and Utility.http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS019164http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS014080Also try booting into BIOS and reset to default. See if it helps.//JameZ

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Just received my new X200s. I can't find the two spare caps(classic dome and soft rim) in the package. Does lenovo stop providing those or they just forgot putting them in my package?  

Answer:Only one trackpoint cap comes with X200s?

I ordered my x200s in April 09 and got two extra caps!

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I have read a review of Yoga 2 Pro where the reviewer referred to the trackpoint, but when I go online to buy one it seems the trackpoint is gone? Is there a Yoga 2 Pro model which still retains the trackpoin?Elling













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Answer:Can I get Yoga 2 Pro with trackpoint

The IdeaPad Yogas (11, 11s, 13, 2, 2Pro) do not have the TrackPoint.
==> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/
 
The ThinkPad Yoga, though, does feature the TrackPoint.
==> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/yoga-series/yoga/
 
Hope this helps.
Regards.

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I have a T60 laptop (purchased Jun 2006) which works great except for the trackpoint.  For the last few months, the trackpoint has not been working.  The touchpad works. Here are the steps I took to troubleshoot - 1.  Updated Ultra NAV driver and Utility software (the latest from lenovo website).  Actually un-installed old version and      re-installed new version2.  Updated the BIOS to the newer version and ensured that Trackpoint/NAV is set to enabled in BIOS3.  Replaced the keyboard (assumed it was a hardware problem).  During replacement, I made sure it was properly      seated to rule out a loose connection.4.  The motherboard was replaced last year (due to a another problem) so I assume it may not be the source of problem I have searched this and other websites but am out of luck.  Appreciate if any one can provide more leads/ideas to fix this.  I am not sure if this is software related. Thanks

Answer:Please help - Trackpoint not operational

how about the mouse properties is it enabled there





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Just couple days ago, my TrackPoint started to get weird. It started to move extremely fast on certain direction, and even I set to the lowest sensitivity, it still move extremely fast. Basically I have no control of the track point anymore. I tried to plug in a notebook mouse with trackpoint turned on, I still can't move my mouse. I have to disable the trackpoint. I even tried to replace the red cap but still no use. Does anyone have this problem and know how to fix this? Thanks.

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Question: Trackpoint problem

First of all, sorry if this questions been asked and answered. I've been searching off an on for several weeks for any online help to a trackpoint annoyance I've been having with no luck. I'm on a T61p running XP. (I upgraded the stock Vista, following an online guide). I have the Ultranav utility installed (I can see and change the options for the trackpoint/touchpad in the mouse control panel). Both the trackpoint and touchpad work. However, every once in a while the trackpoint just becomes totally unresponsive and the mouse pointer refuses to respond or move. For like 3-4 seconds. What's odd is that when this happens, the touchpad still works. (I'm trying to move or scroll with the trackpoint / topmost scroll button+trackpoint with now response, but use other finger to test touchpad and that responds.) It's really odd and really annoying. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any advice? Thanks!

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Question: Trackpoint speed

Hello, I have lenovo X61s;  how do I speed up the pointer please?Angster













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Answer:Trackpoint speed

Open 'Control Panel > Mouse'.
Open the 'ThinkPad' or 'ThinkPad UltraNav' tab.
At the top next to 'Pointing Options', click 'Advanced'
In the 'General' tab, you will see 'TrackPoint pointing speed', adjust the slider,

Depending on which Ultranav version you have installed the steps may be slightly different, but they should be roughly the same.

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Question: x230 trackpoint

Hey,sometimes when I move my pointer somwhere and then release trackpoint the pointer goes a little bit backwards. Can it be fixed?Regards 

Answer:x230 trackpoint

TrackPoint drift has been happening as long as I can remember, at least back to the X31.  Release the trackpoint, and it may drift towards the top left.  If you let it drift, it stops after a few seconds and after that works properly.  At least for me this happens infrequently enough so as not to be a big deal.

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Is there any way to use the trackpoint on Lenovo computers as a joystick?  I.e. a device that would be useful for a flight simulator?  Essentially, it wouldn't be moving the mouse along a line based on the direction you're pushing it in with a speed based on your finger pressure,  but rather moving the mouse to a stationary position on the screen based on the direction and pressure you're pushing on it with.

Answer:Using the trackpoint as a joystick?

Download the latest version of ppjoy - it comes with a mouse to joystick driver that works well with trackpoint

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Hi everbody, from some reason the trackpoint didn't work on my thinkpad t410.i open the computer to clean the fun coller, and aftre this the trackpoint work fine for two day and from some reason it is stop to work, i buy new keyboark and it is still dont work.  I  try this on my windows and my ubuntu.  Happy Holiday Oshri barazani 

Answer:trackpoint did't work

Hi Oshri,
                           
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
                                                     
As per the query we understood that you are facing issue with track point not working in your Lenovo T410 laptop
The Fn-key (F8) allows the to enable/disable Trackpoint and Touchpad.
 
If the trackpoint is no longer working, this may be a good option to check before investigating device manager, updating / reinstalling trackpoint drivers or rebooting as discussed above.
 
Pressing Fn-F8 brings up the ultranav menu and allows the user to cycle through different trackpoint and touchpad configuration options.
 
Click here for the drivers.
 
Hope this helps. Do post back if issue persists!
        
Best regards,         
 
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Good afternoon all,
We have an older IBM thinkpad 600x, that my husband uses to play simple off line games and read a few emails. The past few days when booting we are getting the error #08611.
From what I have been able to find I believe that this has something to do with the trackpoint.
We use a wireless mouse with this so do not need the track point. Can someone please tell me how to disable the trackpoint?
Thanks!!!
I wish a Happy & prosperous 2010 to all.
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Answer:IBM thinkpad trackpoint

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I've been using Lenovo laptops for the last 10 years because of my preference for the trackpoint.  However, I recently purchased a P40 yoga and the trackpoint middle button scrolling is horrendous.  It takes 5 or 6 seconds before it starts scrolling.  Also, when you press the middle button, the cursor does not change to the scroll cursor.  Please help me fix this as I am very unhappy that my brand new computer does not work as well as my other (3 really old) Lenovo laptops.

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Question: trackpoint loose

i just noticed a minute ago that my trackpoint is very very loose on my t61p it comes off with my finger when i lift it. is there any way i can fix it at home? or will it be covered by warranty?





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Answer:trackpoint loose

When you say the TrackPoint is loose, are you refering to the red cap that covers it?  If so, it's probably just worn out and needs to be replaced.  You can order replacements from Lenovo.  The part number is 73P2698, and here in the US, they're $9.99.  Sometimes they're also available on eBay.

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Hello I`ve had to clean up my Thinkpad t61p keyboard after an unfortunate incident involving a glass of soda, and now the trackpoint has gone crazy.I had to disable it because it was moving my cursor randomly to corners of the screen.I`ve also seem to have misplaced the little rubber bubble from my scroll button, but that`s not so important at the moment.Any ideas as to what might have gone wrong? thanks

Answer:Messed up my trackpoint

Nevermind, it`s back to normal.Any suggestions as to what I might be able to use as a replacement for the scroll rubber bubble ?

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Question: Trackpoint Issues

Hi, Just recently my trackpoint in my T61 stopped responding after having a little water in my keyboard near the left function and shift keys.  Attempting to fix the problem, I went to the mouse settings to make sure it was enabled, however the Trackpoint section was grayed out and the enabled box was unchecked. I also checked the BIOS settings and both the Trackpoint and touch pad are set to automatic. I have also uninstalled and reinstalled the Ultranav driver and utility. Is there anything else I should do to fix the problem? The amount of water that got into the keyboard did not look like it was much and evaporated pretty quickly, so I am not sure if this is just a coincidence or it is related to the water being in the keyboard.  I also tried tried the Trackpoint with a Ubuntu Live CD, but it did not work in Ubuntu either. Thanks













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Answer:Trackpoint Issues

Well, I got the problem fixed... I just restarted the computer one more time and the trackpoint started working... Odd. Anyways, I'm glad to have it back.

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Hi, I have a Thinkpad x30, and die Trackpoint is great! Why is there no S10 or S9 with a Trackpoint? Should be perfect for these Netbooks. Best Regards,Stephan













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Answer:Ideapad S10 - Trackpoint?

Trackpoint is a Thinkpad only feature. This is one of the element tha distinguish Thinkpad from the rest of the Lenovo products.

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The touchpad/trackpoint to move my cursor/arrow on the screen is not working. My USB Mouse works fine. Any ideas? Does not work when USB mouse is plugged in or not. Disreguard..........somehow it got turned off in BIOS

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OK, T60 Notebook and suddenly the TrackPoint and TouchPad stopped working.  I checked under the ThinkVantage tools and they are enabled.  I checked in the BIOS and the device(s) are enabled there as well.  I've had a TouchPad go bad before but the TrackPoint still worked.  Kinda strange both would go down at the same time.  So, in short: 1.  Has anyone out there experienced this and if so, how did you fix it?2.  Does anyone have the part number for a replacement TouchPad (I've searched the site and could find dang near everything else, but the TouchPad) TIA! 

Answer:TouchPad and TrackPoint

They're integrated parts of the palm rest. A cable connects all integrated parts of the palm rest to the machine. So I guess the cable isn't plugged in firmly enough. Remove the palm rest according to the hardware manual and check. If the cable has no problem, contact Lenovo to ask for a replacement palm rest.





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Hello. I have a w520 and a problem. Sometimes trackpoint is not working, and sometimes after reboot it begin working again. But after time it cancel working totally. I change a keyboard to a new and trackpoint works for about two weeks and now it not works again (. I have traing reboot a laptop, but it did not help ( To exclude a software problem I load new windows from a DVD, but trackpoint continies not to work... For all time touchpad and keyboard and mouse works fine. Trackpoint for all time have enable in BIOS. Trackpoint keys are not working also. May be anybody have an idea what problem with touchpad I have? Thank you. Stas.

Answer:trackpoint does not work

Does it work properly in a Linux live USB environment?Unlikely, but maybe the motherboard is damaged and breaking the TrackPoint module on the keyboard? Does the keyboard connector look damaged?

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Hello. I have a w520 and a problem. Sometimes trackpoint is not working, and sometimes after reboot it begin working again. But after time it cancel working totally. I change a keyboard to a new and trackpoint works for about two weeks and now it not works again (. I have traing reboot a laptop, but it did not help ( To exclude a software problem I load new windows from a DVD, but trackpoint continies not to work... For all time touchpad and keyboard and mouse works fine. Trackpoint for all time have enable in BIOS. Trackpoint keys are not working also. May be anybody have an idea what problem with touchpad I have? Thank you. Stas.  

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My husband has an IBM 660e and yesterday the trackpoint started going crazy. It shoots off in any direction when you try to click on something. He has tried reinstalling drivers and nothing seems to work.

He needs suggestions before he goes as crazy as his trackpoint has gone.

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Question: R400 trackpoint

I have a Thinkpad R400 with Windows 7 installed. I have tried several times to activate the trackpoint with no success.I have checked in the bios screen which lists it as active (automatic) but when I check under mice in the control panel it only gives me the touch pad not the track point.I performed a driver update which gave me UntraNav but it has the track point greyed out. Any assistance in this would be greatly appreciated.

Answer:R400 trackpoint

Hi CountryLad, Have you installed Ultranav Utility and Ultranav Driver? Vince. 





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After just a few months of usage, my W510's TrackPoint cap came loose. I ordered a three-part TrackPoint cap collection on eBay. Alas, the caps don't fit.
 
No surprise if you look at this photo of a non-W-series keyboard with the cap removed. The TrackPoint post in my W-series ThinkPad is yellow rather than black and significantly smaller:
 
Link to picture
 
Also, the W-series is prominently absent from the list of supported models in Lenovo's specs of the replacement caps.
 
Anyone know if replacement caps for the W-series are available?
 
Also, how would I attach the cap? Just pushing it back didn't really do it for my original cap, it kept coming loose.
 
 
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Answer:Replacement TrackPoint cap?

some of the cap collection on ebay is fake. The W510 uses the same keyboard as mine T400s, and the real Lenovo trackpoint from T60 fits the T400s keyboard perfectly.

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I am using MS Office 2007 on my Lenovo X60 with 2GB RAM and Win XP Proffesional.  I cannot scroll pages in MS Word 2007 using the standard scrolling type setting in the mouse properties dialog box in the control panel.  When I change the scrolling type setting to auto-select I am able to scroll but the scrolling is so fast that I cannot control it. Moreover, the scrolling does not work at all in either standard or auto-select mode in some of the MS Office dialog boxes.  I have upgraded to the latest trackpoint driver, but that does not seem to improve the situation.  Does anyone have a solution to this problem?

Answer:Trackpoint scrolling speed on X60

I think that when you set the scrolling type in mouse properties to auto, you simply use the standard mouse-wheel click auto-scrolling feature of Office. Check if you can find any Office setting that allows you to adjust the auto-scrolling speed.

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Does anyone feel the Trackpoint feels a little heavy on the X200(s) or any of the newest ThinkPad models? I have an X200s, sensitivity set to lightest, mouse speed set to fastest with precision checked. The trackpoint on my X60s and X300 feel much lighter nd easier to move. Perhaps it's just the extremely high display DPI on the X200s? TIA, Kris.

Answer:X200s heavy Trackpoint

The Lenovo trackpoints are always 'heavy' out of the box. Go to the trackpoint settings in Control Panel > Mouse and adjust to 'light touch'.

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A week or so ago the Trackpoint on my T60P (2007-AE7), running XP SP 3, started freezing a minute or two after booting the machine or waking it up.  Occasionally after a pause of a few minutes it will start working again on its own for a few seconds. I can?t relate the freezing to anything I changed on the machine.  And the machine doesn?t run hot ? I had a problem with the fan, which stopped working a couple of weeks ago; I removed, cleaned and oiled the fan, and it now works fine again. An external mouse I connected works fine at all times, as does the keyboard. What may provide a clue is that I normally only activate the Trackpoint alone without the Trackpad.  I notice that when both are active and the Trackpoint stops working, the Trackpad continues to work properly as do all the mouse buttons.                                                                                       Sometimes when the Trackpoint has stopped working and I activate the Trackpad, the Trackpoint will start working again for a little while.... Read more

Answer:Trackpoint freezes on T60P

How's your battery? Bad and/or generic batteries have been known to cause freezing issues on the *60/61 series...

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I was testing out the other trackpoints that came with my T400 the other day, and when I took one of them off, the black piece that fits the track point cap onto the little nub in keyboard came with it. When I tried to pry it loose it went flying off, bounced twice, and like all small, critical pieces do when they hit the floor, disappeared. I haven't been able to find it, and without it the caps won't fit. I've looked around but it seems nobody offers a replacement. They just have the caps. Apparently I can't even contact customer support to ask if they have a replacement, since my laptop isn't in warranty, so I'm asking here instead.













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Answer:Replacement trackpoint part?

Hi and welcome to the forum!

If I'm not wrong, that's part of the keyboard and it doesn't come loose unless it's broken. You'll need to replace the entire keyboard if you want to use the trackpoint again, sorry! 

I had an old IBM keyboard with broken trackpoint holder, wasn't able to fix it.





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I have a t430 2342CTO with the latest ultranav drivers installed. I have seen screenshots of older versions of the driver where you can select smooth scrolling for the trackpoint. I was wondering if there is any way to enable this behavior in the current driver. Also, is there any way I can change the amount of lines scrolled by the trackpoint? Changing the windows setting only seems to affect the touchpad, not the trackpoint. Perhaps there is a registry setting or something?

Answer:Trackpoint smooth scrolling

Hi ben_jminw,
 
You should be able to change those settings under control panel > mousepad > unltranav.
How to use the TrackPoint center button - ThinkPad
 
Windows 8/7/XP/Vista 64/32-bit Edition v16.2.21
If you're using this driver then try using a previous version.
 





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When in tablet mode, TrackPoint is pressed by LCD and mouse starts moving slowly... I know this has been asked before but solutions were to update drivers. I have x200t, latest drivers. I keep manually disabling TrackPoint using menu. Is there a way to do it automatically? Some setting I missed?

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I have a x200 with Windows XP installed.  When I put the computer into standby or when it is on battery and shuts itself off to perserve power the trackpoint locks up and the only way I can get it to work is to reboot.  This only happens to the trackpoint.  If I have an external mouse attached, the mouse works -- trackpoint won't Anyone know of any solutions? let me know thanks Karl 

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So a quick summary...  I recently had my T60 open to see if it had bluetooth..  (it doesn't and can't add, no connector)   Anyway, put it back together, and now neither my trackpad or trackpoint work.  They show up in bios, and unplugging them makes them disappear in bios, but the OS acts like they are completely gone.  Also verified with a linux boot disc, it is not a windows driver issue.  (yes also tried all function key combos...)  Any ideas?  It seems strange that both would go out at the same time, since they are different ribbon cables.  All other keyboard functions work fine.  Also tried running with the trackpad unplugged, no change in the trackpoint, still dead.

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I'm in the market for a new notebook.  As a long time ThinkPad user, I have to say the new trackpoint set up bothers me.  I know they said in the blogs Windows 8 users deserve a better touch pad, but I would ask don't us long time ThinkPad users, who've supported the brand for years, deserve something too, but what do I know. Anyway, the T440s and T440p are on my short list of new laptops.  Finally, a 14" ThinkPad with a good screen, but I've heard the new integrated pointstick buttons are noisy and I hate noisy buttons.  It's one of the reasons I've always had ThinkPads at the top of my list - silky smooth buttons.  Is there any consensus on how well the new setup works or anything I should know before buying?  I live no where near any place I could see one in person to judge for myself.  I'm not going through the hassle of buying one and having to return it, regardless of the restocking fee.  Thanks for any help.





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Hi. I have a problem: impossibility of selection part of screen through trackpoint. A point in which a cursor was fixed pressure of the left key changes. Video, demonstrating a problem, is laid out herehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4QMSuMT6G59NXhGTGNBX1dpc3M/edit?usp=sharing

Answer:Problem TrackPoint T430u

Hi,
 
Welcome to Lenovo Community Forums!
 
I?m sorry to hear that you are having trackpoint issues with your Lenovo ThinkPad T430u.
 
Try to reinstall the ultranav drivers and check if it helps.
 
Please let me know the happenings!
 
Best regards,
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I am a fanatical user of the trackpoint on my current Lenovo. I also want to purchase an Ideapad. I am hesitating because it doesn't have a trackpoint. Does anyone have any ideas? Does Lenovo offer an option to add the Trackpoint or do they have another system which is simmilar to the Ideapad Y series. I am attracted to the Y series because of the Dolby sound system, the inbuilt camera, the wide 17" screen and the standard Bluray.

Answer:Can a trackpoint be added to Ideapads

Barely it will fit. I suggest that ports of keyboards with and without trackpoints are different.





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Hi there,  Everything is in the title: when I hold the middle button of the trackpoint and try to scroll down, it works, but if I want to scroll upwards, nothing happens. What am I missing? 













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Answer:Scroll with trackpoint only works downwards

Nevermind, it's software related.

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Hello everybody,i would like to tell you about an issue which i experienced with my t430u (model 3353-3ng).If i try to mark elements (eg. on the desktop) by holding the left trackpoint button, the signal sometimes breaks up and starts marking again at the point where it broke up (the same happens with the right button too). I tried the drivers which are supposed to make the trackpad and trackpoint work properly on my device. Without the drivers the problem doesn't appear but then the trackpoint sometimes doesn't work at all or stops working. I experienced the problem with a new machine out of the box. So i decided to contact the reseller to get a new one. This took about a week or two (getting the labels, bring it to the post office, they checking the machine etc...). When i received the new one i experienced the problem too. This time they wouldn't take it back because i ran out of their "reseller-warranty" (don't know if there is an equivalent, in german it's "Gerwährleistung").So this time they sent it to a lenovo-service-partner called "Servion". They replaced the keyboard with a new one. This didn't do anything at all, issue still appeared. So i called the service-partner and told them that the problem is still there, explained the exact issue and that i want to send it to them again.As i got it back this third time (including first replacement) the problem was still there.. This time i decided to call the lenovo support directly. At this point around 4 or 5 weeks ... Read more

Answer:T430u trackpoint issue

my T430u has also recently developed this issue. They eventually did a motherboard replacement.

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I have an X40 running Windows XP. The trackpoint has been getting harder to move, and I think it's giving me RSI.I replaced the cap, which was very worn, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.The Thinkpad help function says to use the Mouse Properties dialogue box to adjust the sensitivity slide bar, but there is no sensitivity setting in this dialogue box, only speed.Can anyone help please?

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Hey Guys, I'm just wondering if Lenovo has said anything about possibly switching back to tactile buttons for the trackpoint or not? Even if it's an after-market install, I'd still be really interested in this. From what I've used of the new setup, it ruins 1/2 of the reasons I chose ThinkPads and I'm looking for a new laptop, but am unable to justify using the awful new trackpoint buttons.For now I will likely go with an older model, but I was really hoping to get my hands on the t440p with 4 cores so I could actually do virtualization on my laptop. Thanks for any help!

Answer:Trackpoint Mouse Buttons

Totally agree. I would be happy if Lenovo mailed me a new keyboard with real buttons. I'll install it mysleft.https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T440s-touchpad-choppy-buggy/m-p/1450453#M9...

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Hello, guys. I recently purchased the Thinkpad T420 and so far am very satisfied. I noticed a problem though. I wanted to use the track point so I pressed FN + F8 and nothing. Figured ok, I'll go to through the control panel. Pressed on the mouse option under devices and printers. There is no trackpoint tab or the nav. I clicked on all the tabs. All I have are wheel, hardware, pointing device, buttons, pointers, and pointer options. Please help! Before I had an old IBM thinkpad and the trackpoint worked. One of the greatest assets! Thanks.

Answer:t420 trackpoint does not work

Hi Gallydif,
Welcome to Lenovo Community!
As per the query we understood that you are facing an issue with Trackpoing on your ThinkPad T420.
I think you have not installed the drivers for that, please run ThinkVantage system update tool to install all the latest drivers for your system. http://support.lenovo.com/in/hi/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t42...
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
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Anyone else have this problem? http://coreldraw.com/forums/t/2176.aspx?PageIndex=2 After using the trackpoint scrolling, the screen contents of CorelDraw disappear.  According to Corel, this is a problem with the trackpoint drivers.

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I just got my new ThinkPad T440s, and I'm having some difficulties getting the Trackpoint to work properly. Whenever I power up the system, the Trackpoint is responsive for a minute or so and then completely stops working, while the touchpad works just fine. I have tried re-installing/ updating the Ultranav driver, but no luck. I have also tried a complete factory restore, and the problem remains.  I noticed that when I don't have the Ultranav driver installed, the trackpoint works a little while longer but then gets a bit crazy. By that I mean moving the cursor using either touchpad or trackpoint somehow ends up opening shortcuts, moving icons or the taskbar, etc. It's hard to explain, but it's like the cursor moves all over the screen rapidly "left-clicking" and "right-clicking" all over the place.  It's strange that when I'm going through the Windows installation prompts, the trackpoint seemed to work just fine. This and the fact that it works for a minute upon start-up make me think it's a software issue.  Does anyone have any suggestions that I could try? I haven't tried doing anything in the BIOS, if there's something that could be done. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Answer:T440s Trackpoint problems

Hi zorero, You can check in the bios if the trackpoint is enabled but if it works sometimes it might be anyway. you should try to remove the keyboard, unplug the trackpad and replug it.It can be just just a connection problem where the plug is not properly attached to the motherboard. There is the link to the Hardware Maintenance Manual where you can find how to remove the keyboard: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf Hope that helps, Vince.





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Hi all, I'm having some issues with TrackPoint in my X240.I am using 'trackpoint only' mode (not classic.. mode becaues it disables gestures - which are quite usefull btw) Problem is, that sometimes clickpad have problems with left click recognition. It is really annoying, I have to click few times to actually click.I think it is worse after last software updates (lenovo ultra nav) Does anyone have this issue too?  Maybe Lenovo can add 3 physical buttons to my X240?













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Answer:X240 TrackPoint problems

Yes. This issue comes with the latest driver, see: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/X1-Carbon-Gen2-Using-TrackPad-for-TrackPoint-b... You are not the only one. Revert back to 18.0.7.34 - works much better. (http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440-Synaptics-UltraNav-Driver-180734-Down...

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Hi, I recently purchased a new Thinkpad and I new about the new Trackpad that has removed the physical buttons, but I thought that I could get used to it. But, I never will, not the way I have been using a Thinkpad for the last 15 years. When using the computer for work I never use the touchpad only the trackpoint with the physical buttons, I use all 3 of the buttons. These are my two first problems with the new trackpad. 1. The force that is needed to left or right click with the new "the whole trackpad is a button" is really annoying and i really really hate it.2. The sound of the button when pressing the whole trackpad is really annoying, you can almost type silently on the keybord, but when pressing the trackpad button it makes a very annoying sound. This is the third and most annoying problem, a real show stopper for me. 3. When I do real work on my computer I use both my thumbs for left vs right click. The problem with the new trackpad is that there is no physical buttons AND they area for the buttons are not clickable, the whole trackpad is a button meaning that it senses which thumb was last registered resting in that area. On my old Thinkpad I usually rested both my thumbs on the physical buttons and this is where the real problem begins. If i rest my left thumb on the area for the left "button" first and after this rest my right thumb in the area for the right "button" and then left click, there will be a right click instead, ... Read more

Answer:Using trackpoint with both thumbs on new Thinkpads

Wellcome to the club of frustrated trackpoint users. The new clickpad-solution just does not work for me. People who do not use the trackpoint seem to like it, but the whole point of buying a ThinkPad is getting void without a working solution for us trackpoint users.

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Hi,   I bought an X61 (type: 7673-BE9) last month. Now I have met a trackpoint issue. It will not work at any time: no response to left and right buttons, no response to the red stick. If I reboot the system, it maybe works or doesn't. In the later case,  I noticed that there was a yellow exclamation mark before trackpoint in the hardware management.   I have tried to reinstall the trackpoint driver(4.62), but it was helpless. Here's my system information:    OS:    Windows XP sp2    BIOS: 2.07    Trackpoint Driver Version: 4.62   Would anyone please help me? Thanks a lot.                                Best Regards                                  Thiross

Answer:X61 trackpoint doesn't work

Hi, Im experiencing exactly the same Problems on my X61. I was using Windows Vista for three month and had no problems at all. The strange mouse behaviour just started after installing Windows XP. The funny thing is that the mouse stops working some seconds after the GUI boot. So i tried to kill all of the trackpoint tasks running, but I didnt find any task being responsible for this behaviour. My next try will be to stop some drivers and see if I can find the problem here.Did you find any other solution?Best regards,dkirsten

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Hello, I've bought new ThinkPad t540p recently. I've never used Trackpoint before and found it is very useful. But one thing breaks my happiness about Trackpoint. It's terrible clicking on touchpad.As I know it's common problem. But when I deleted Ultranav drivers and my Windows started using default drivers, I've realized that Trackpoint cursor pointing + Touchpad tap-to-click performance are best of breed. Unfortunately, I've lost scrolling and gestures.Is it possible to configure the same behaviour (Trackpoint cursor pointing + Touchpad tap-to-click) on Ultranav drivers or not? Thank you.

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Hi All,
 
The trusty T61 (14.1" widescreen, 7662) has lost its TrackPoint buttons.  All 3 of them.  Keyboard works, lower TrackPad buttons work.
 
It looks like the upper buttons are part of the keyboard assembly.  I'll pull the kbd tomorrow and reseat the connector.  Anything else I should check?  Any simple way to determine whether it's a kbd/TP button failure or something else?
 
i'm hesitant to put much into the machine since it has a discrete GPU.  Running fine so far, but on the "doomed" list.
 
Thanks,
Z.
 
 

Answer:T61 TrackPoint buttons dead

Try the keyboard from your T400 and see how it behaves with that one. 
 
Good luck. 

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I have a Lenovo T420s.  I bought it in May 2011 so it came with the Touchpad/Trackpoint driver version 15.2.14.0 (6hgx35ww.zip), which is the one also known for its massive memory leak. In any case, with that driver I am able to use the Trackpoint to navigate somewhere on the screen and immediately use the Touchpad if necessary. I do that a lot - I use the Trackpoint to quickly get somewhere on the screen, and then switch to the Touchpad for finer navigation (e.g. to look for something in Explorer, click on a link somewhere, etc). Every version since that verison has not worked the same.  I am now using 15.3.16.1 which doesn't have any memory leaks.  As soon as I touch the Trackpoint, the Touchpad becomes unresponsive to touch for about 1.5 seconds.  Try it.  Put your left pointer finger on the Trackpoint and move the mouse around.  Right as you lift your finger, use your right pointer finger on the Touchpad and see if it responds. It doesn't - you have to lift your finger and put it down again for it to register your touch.  Previously it would register your finger touch on the Touchpad right away. I'm almost tempted to switch back and deal with the memory leaks!  It makes such a difference with speed of navigation. Anyone else have a similar experience?   

Answer:Touchpad/Trackpoint weirdness 15.3.16.1

By the way, I know that JameZ has posted a few times related to the UltraNav drivers so I am hoping he will step into this thread and see if he's able to duplicate my finding  

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Recently I've been having an issue with both my trackpoint and touchpad. sometimes one works and other times the other works. from time to time they both work. it seems to switch when i pull up a new website or open a program. if one works before i open the program then the other will work after i open it. the buttons are the same way as well.. if one set works then the other doesn't but they don't correspond to which pointing device is working.. its kind of random.

Answer:Trackpoint & Touchpad problem

I have just starting having the same problems as well.  It's driving me nuts.  I thought my laptop was crapping out.  Anyone have any ideas what's going on?  I also had the trackpoint touchpad go south on a HP N6400, though in all cases, the Synaptic driver thinks everything is hunkydorey.  I've updated drivers, tried everything.   Whole reason I have a Lenovo is for the trackpoint and if it's going to stop working, then will start looking at a new laptop.





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anyone know the best software for my T21's trackpoint i cant seem to get the bottom button to act as a scroll wheel type thing pls help 





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Answer:trackpoint scrolling on T21 not working

If you need to reinstall the Trackpoint driver for your unit, here is the link below: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4KMUYL Download and save this file to the desktop and the open the folder and run the setup.exe file You might also need the Trackpoint Accessibility Driver, which can be found here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4Z9QVD See if installing these two drivers will help you. If the drivers are installed correctly and you are still having problems with the trackpoint scrolling, it could possibly be a mechancial issue and the part would need replacement. Let me know if this helps you any. Mark





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I suddenly find that both the trackpoint and touchpad are not functioning. they are set to Automatic in the BIOS but the UltraNav shows them grayed out.History:I had recently installed the system update "systemupdate314-2008-5-15.exe" when I had this problem (the key board also had stopped responding). The problem persisted but got rectified after a few restarts. But it now recurs again (though the keyboard is fine now). I also had recently removed the palmrest and tightened the touchpad connection when it had stopped working. It was fine till recently.Can you please suggest a remedy..

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T40 Details:2373-92U I've been having this problem with my trackpoint and ultranav mice for quite some time - it seems that only the left button generates any response by the OS, and that response is most often a "right click."  The actual right button is unresponsive.  I've tried the option under "control panel -> mouse -> button configuration -> switch primary and secondary buttons"  whether checked or unchecked, the left button still has the same behavior.  Occasionally, the left button will stop working entirely within a window - apparently the best way to resolve this is to use the left button to click anywhere on the desktop: the context menu appears, and after using the left button to click on any item within the context window the left button will once again become responsive in all windows (although it will still act like the right button when clicking). External USB mice and Bluetooth mice do not have this problem - those mice respond properly to left/right clicks. My best guess is that the keyboard unit (08k4957 or 08k4986) needs to be replaced, however I'm hoping there's a more definitive test I can perform before shelling out the $$ for a new keyboard unit.  I say this because the ultranav mousepad also has the same problem and I see it plugs into a separate location within the laptop - is there another common component within the laptop that could cause common failure between the two built-in mice? Thank... Read more

Answer:T40 Trackpoint Mouse Always "Right-Clicks"

try download the latest ultraNav and trackpoint drivers. If cannot solve, then it could be other issues that cause it.





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Got a new W520-42844KG and I can't get the trackpoint to work.With BIOS at default (both touchpad and trackpoint enabled) boot up and only the touchpad works.Fn F8 gives 3 choices:1. Enable trackpoint & touchpad - this doesn't work at all, always returns to option 3.2. Enable trackpoint only - this disables the touchpad but trackpoint still doesn't work.3. Enable touchpad only - touchpad works as expected.Got the latest Ultranav drivers & BIOS from Lenovo. In Ultranav settings "Enable Trackpoint" is ghosted out.Also if I remove the Ultranav drivers and just use the default windows mouse drivers the touchpad works but trackpoint still doesn't work.Don't think this is a hardware fault with the trackpoint as if I enable trackpoint only in the BIOS then the trackpoint works fine.Any clues as to what's wrong ?

Answer:W520 - Can't Switch to Trackpoint

Same thing happeneded to me after docking the unit and using a mouse. I cannot get the touchpad or the other on-board pointer to respond; it appears to be mouse-onlu operatiojn now. I tried to reactivate the onboard pointers but got the message that the driver is not installed. I downloaded the driver and I still get the message that it is not installed.

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You know that rubber stick between the G and H keys on the new Carbon X1..? How do I replace it? In the old Thinkpads you could just yank it out, but with the X1, it seems to be stuck. Mine is working fine, I just want to replace it with the cat's tongue/classic type of eraser head. Would this be safe to do or might it scratch/dent the screen?  

Answer:How to change Trackpoint on Carbon X1?

Download the manual for your computer. That will tell you how to change out the trackpoint but (I haven't seen the x1c yet) the trackpoint there may well be smaller. Here is the LINK for the x1c maintenance manual

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My TrackPoint's set with the middle button on Magnfying Glass. But, all of a sudden, it goes off-centre. As in, when I hit the button, it magnifies an area a coupla inches right and one down. Anyone know what may cause/remedy this?













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Answer:W500 TrackPoint magnifier

And I'll answer this one myself: Uninstalled/reinstalled UltraNav driver several times. Each time: restart prompted & installation of driver then offered automatically & accepted. Only to find recurrerrence of problem. Answer? Declined the prompt for restart without drver, then do a fresh download of driver. Problem sorted. Hooray!

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Over the week, the trackpoint cap on my ThinkPad X131e just popped off, I've been unable to fit it back on properly. Even if it does seem to fit, it's not as responsive as it was. It's stiffer than before, even on the sensitive settings set to max. Whoops.





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Answer:Trackpoint cap popped off and won't fit back in

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Hello, I usually have my laptop connected though the ethernet, so I have the wireless radios turned off. I have my TrackPoint mouse set to the highest sensivity level in both the mouse settings in the control panel and in the ultranav software. When I want to use the wireless network, I flip the switch and the wireless radios come on. Incedentally, when I do that, the mouse becomes less sensitive. So every time I turn on the wireless radio, I have to go to the control panel and change the sensitivity back to high. The ultranav software is not affected. The settings also get reverted to default when I turn on the laptop while the wireless radios are on. Does anyone know how to make the mouse stay at the highest sensivity level regardless of whether the radios are on or off?

Answer:Problem With My TrackPoint W510

hi rgoode,with regards to this, could you uninstall the ultranav software and drivers from your system,then let windows install its generic drivers. once generic drivers has been installed, change the sensitivity settings for the mouse and see if there is a difference when wifi mode is on and off.once done, go to http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-74582.html download the latest ultranav software and driver.do a test again.





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Just upgraded from a T43P to a W500 and instantly I can notice how messed up the trackpoint mouse is.It just jumps randomly on its own!! Also...using the left click button does not actually click the link but thepointer actually jumps and settles down on a different part of the screen after clicking.Also every now and then, the trackpoint will stop moving the pointer(freeze) and it recovers after 4-5 seconds.This is really frustrating!! Anyone else seen this before?  DD

Answer:W500 trackpoint problems

Hello Desidon: I have always found the trackpoint device (the pointing stick) to be one of the most reliable things on ThinkPads.  I upgraded from a T42P to a W500, and did not notice any difference in trackpoint function - the stick on the W500 works as well as the stick on the T42P did. The operating system itself (Vista or XP) offers some 'options' that, if enabled, might be what is causing the unexpected behaviour you are experiencing.  If you go to the mouse control panel and have a look around in there, you will find that there is an option that causes the pointer to automatically jump to the default acceptance button in dialog boxes whenever dialog boxes appear.  I have turned that option off, I find that it is distracting. By default, both the touchpad and the trackpoint stick are enabled.  I have disabled the touchpad on my W500 because I find that I often inadvertently activated the touchpad when I am typing or otherwise operating the computer.  You can easily turn the touchpad off (while leaving the trackpoint on), the control for that is in the Mouse control panel under the "UltraNav" tab.  My guess is that if you turn off the above two options, 99% of your problems will disappear. There have been issues reported with the cursor on the screen occasionally freezing up.  That is being discussed in a different discussion (Temporary but DAILY mouse / system freezing (W500 w/ Vista Business 32), and we have no... Read more

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Hi, not sure where to do this (or if maybe the issues are actually caused by some hardware issue), but I'd like to request an update to the trackpoint speed in the next Ultranav driver release.   I currently have my trackpoint speed cranked all the way up, along with my overall mouse speed, and have turned off pointer precision enhancement (which also slows mouse speed); but still have to work to move the cursor around the screen using the trackpoint.  This also makes it extemely difficult to control the cursor when I connect an external mouse (e.g., when I'm using the laptop at my office workstation). I'd say the speed is only getting up to about 3/4ths of the speed of my X201's trackpoint (if that).  This is not only inconvenient, but also frequently causes the tackpoint to lose its inertia settings so that it starts to drift uncontrollably up (or down) the screen (usually caused by slowly scrolling through a document).  This happens daily.   With this issue and the loss of the press-to-select feature, the trackpoint on the new 240 has been very, very disappointing.  It's a shame that such a useful feature has been so handicapped by the changes in the new machine.  Please bring back the old trackpoint (or fix these issues with software). - Chris

Answer:x240 trackpoint speed

Does anyone know if there's a registry setting that might allow me to increase the sensitivity of the trackpoint?  I'm going crazy trying to push the cursor around the screen on this laptop... Thanks,Chris

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Just wondering if it was possible to remap the trackpoint buttons to something like back/forward in a browser... thanks













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hey phil5,
 
that will not be possible.





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