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Good keyboard covers for Lenovo Flex 3 14?

Question: Good keyboard covers for Lenovo Flex 3 14?

Does anyone with a Flex 3 14 inch use a keyboard cover for the keyboard?I got an i7 one for sale and the thing attracts dust and a lot of fingerprints so I figured I'd get one. Which do you recommend?

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Answer: Good keyboard covers for Lenovo Flex 3 14?

I'm not an owner of your model, but keyboard covers are frequent sellers on eBay and Amazon at good price. In addition, Amazon has customer reviews available so you can see if others were happy with the purchase. Here are a couple of examples......

http://www.amazon.com/Folox%C2%AE-Keyboard-Protector-Laptop-IdeaPad/dp/B00PAHKY6I

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/231633354772?lpid=82&chn=ps

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Hi everyone, I just recently bought a Lenovo Yoga 2 13 and I was going to buy a keyboard cover on Ebay but I noticed that the ones they sell have a straight Enter key and the one I have has an L shaped Enter key. I'm just wondering if anyone knows where I could get a keyboard cover that is compatible with the Lenovo Yoga 2 13.  Thanks

Answer:Lenovo Yoga 2 European Keyboard Covers

This keyboard frame is a one part with all upper case.

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I have a Lenovo Flex 2-15 that doesn't have a backlit keyboard. I know that the keybord can be taken off, so can the non-backlit keyboard be replaced by a backlit version. Would the process void the warranty and where can I buy the backlit keyboard replacement?

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Hello! I bought a Lenovo Y50 UHD laptop about 3 weeks ago. So far I have but one problem (besides 48hz...), and that is that I can notice some keyboard flex around the keys "5" and "4" on the number pad and around "." and ",". My roommate also got this laptop and on his laptop, there is no noticable keyboard flex anywhere on the keyboard. Is there anything I can do to fix this or is there a way that something (customer service or computer techs like Geek Squad) that can fix this?

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I have been in the market for a new laptop and decided to go with the Lenovo Flex 3 (which I didn't even know existed until a few days ago). It is so new that the only place that actually sells it is Lenovo.com. I got the one with the highest specs on sale. If you look on Flex 3 (15") | Affordable, Thin, & Light Multimode Laptop| Lenovo US you will notice something strange though. The keyboard for the i7 model is "Backlight French-English". None of the other ones are like that. The others all say "Backlight English".
I asked someone at Lenovo what that meant because I was concerned that it wasn't in QWERTY format. They said (and im not sure I believe them) that it only meant that some of the keys have French characters underneath them. The keys should be in the same spot. When I looked up images of French-English keyboards, a lot of them have 2 characters on EVERY key. It looks like the keyboard can either be in French or English mode, but it also looks confusing because the characters are the same size.
I asked Lenovo why the heck they would make 1 model that comes with a weird keyboard and every other model doesn't, and they didn't have an answer. I haven't received the laptop yet but im a little nervous as to what to expect. I love the specs and the design of the laptop, but if the keyboard is a jumbled mess of characters then I may regret my purchase. I don't look at the keyboard to type, but I still feel like it could be very confusing.
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Answer:Lenovo Flex 3 keyboard is weird

If you'd like to see the keyboard up close, here is an image of what Lenovo does with French-English Keyboards. This is NOT a photo of the Flex 3, but of an older model laptop that they used a French-English keyboard. It may give you an idea of what one might look like. It basically makes it easier to enter French accent characters.

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Hi, I have a Lenovo flex 14 laptop from German, so it has a qwertz configuration, but when I try to type @ with Altgr + Q it just won't show up. How to fix this problem ?

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you can install the backlit keyboard on lenovo flex 15? http://www.ebay.it/itm/311338715503?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT second question: you can install a 256GB SSD M.2? http://www.amazon.it/256GB-ZTC-armatura-Solid-Disk-ZTC-SM201/dp/B00YDHKIMG/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics... thanks

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the keyboard on my lenovo flex is not working. ive tried everything...the sticky keys are off already checked. ive turned off my laptop and turned back on still nothing. ive looked online for somethings to try and no luck. i have even reset my whole laptop everything was wiped lost all my apps but still my keyboard is completely dead none of the keys work. ive only had this laptop less than a year. anyone have any idea what could be going on?

Answer:lenovo flex keyboard not working

also my touchpad isnt working either tthe mouse never shows up. ive been using the on screen keyboard

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Hi everybody I am new in this forum. I have a new Flex 2 14 since some days and I am trying to figure out how the keyboard works. I used to work with one Mac and typing characters was pretty easy.. what appears just on the keys ti will be typed when I write. Now with my new  Flex 2 it doesn't seem to work like that anymore. I have some blue keys that work when the keyboard is set as English Canadian multilingual.. others that don't write at all what is written on them.. (example the blue key give me the " " when i type on it, and I found by chance how to type the " " character). Yesterday while I was writing an e-mail I needed to type the " " but I wasn't able to find the key equivalent on the keyboard so I had to use the touchscreen keyboard to get right my " ". Another time I was looking to insert the " [ " brackets but I had to change the language on my keyboard from " English Canadian" to "English US" to get them.Can I make my typing easier? Is there any way to get all the basic symbols on my keyboard without switching language or using the touchscreen keyboard?I would like to make faster writing as I was used to do with my Mac. I looked for instructions but nothing is specified. Thank you for your help

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Hi all. So 2 days ago I was using the laptop for some course work, I then went asleep for maybe 2 hours and when I woke up I was unable to use the touchpad or kyboard. Now I had this issue before but it seemed to fix itself after a day or two. So far I have reset the computer while keeping all my own files, updated, deleted, reinstalled the drivers multiple times, removed the keypad to ensure the ribbon wasn't loose etc etc. I have since been able to get the touchpad to work by messing with the drivers but the keyboard remains the same. I oticed I am able to use it when either the laptop is held at an angle or if the screen if opened up almost flat. I'm guessing this is a driver issue but I can't for the life of me figure out how to resolve this. The laptop is a few years old so no warranty. I've done a lot of reading online about this issue and it seems many people have had the same problem but no posts gave me any real solution. Any help is very much appreciated. I relly don't know what to do now. 

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I just purchased a Lenovo Y50 UHD about a week ago, and the keyboard has been really bugging me. All the keys in the near vicinity of the 'G' and 'H' key in the center of the keyboard for some reason trigger a weird flex/trampoline style effect, which is very noticeable compared to keys near the edge of the keyboard (Tab, Q, number pad, etc.) I'm not sure if this is something that is prevalent in all models of the Y50 or Y50 UHD so it'd be great if i got some feedback from other owners. I'm definitely considering returning if this is a common problem. Thanks.

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I noticed with the T500 I purchased there existed some keyboard flex. I got sort of used to it. One of the keys broke (my own doing). I replaced the keyboard from my old T60 (FRU No: 42T3209). Wow! What a huge difference. The old design is superior in every way. It does weigh a little more but the difference in feel and ruggedness make it a much better choice. I am going to order a second 42T3209 keyboard for the T60. If anyone gets annoyed with the keyboard flex, I suggest searching (ebay, parts surplus) for the 42T3209 keyboard. To Lenovo: Please consider the old keyboard design in future models. Thank you.

Answer:Dear Lenovo, keyboard flex ...

I called Lenovo complaining about the same issue on my W500. The first person turned me down but the second rep ordered me a stronger keyboard, shipped next day air, 100% free-of-charge.

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I bought a new Lenovo laptop (flex 2 14) and did the required setting. After that the physical  keyboard and the touch pad don't work. I only can use the touch screen.
I did not know what's the problem. Please help me
 
 
Mod's Edit: System model added to front of Subject line to improve visibility / clarity.

Answer:Flex 2 14 - lenovo keyboard does not work

I was instructed to hold the power button for 10 seconds while the computer was on.  When I restarted, the problem was solved

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Hello, I have a Lenovo flex 2 14 coming in from France which is fine except it comes with an azerty keyboard. Basically what I want to know is if I buy lets say the flex 15 keyboard, would the size of the keys measure to be the same size as the flex 14 keys (for example the A key on the flex 14 and the A key on the flex 15 will they be the same measurements and would the key fit?). I also want to know if I bought the older flex 14 keyboard if that would fit in the flex 2 14. thanks for any answers.

Answer:Lenovo flex 2 14 keyboard key change

Anyone have any answers for my problem?

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it is to bad for all user of lenovo flex 14 (idea pad) beacuse some lenovo apps like lenovo transition , lenovo smart voice , lenovo magic transfer etc is avillable in flex 2-14 but here is no option for flex 14 for these apps.i bought my lenovo flex 14 in june 3 2014 and if there is no solution of my question then i want to upgrade for my flex 14 is in flex 2 14 on no cost. it shows the irresponsebility of lenovo company .Because cost of boths are same and when i bought flex 14 then after some weeks the new flex 2 14 launched it is not good for me and all the persons who are using flex 14 idea pad.The lenovo company will have to launche update and upgrades for lenovo flex 14 ideapad users. thanx in advance to my faviorate brand lenovo. I wish lenovo give update and upgrade for lenovo flex 14 idea pad .

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Dear experts,My keyboard has completely stopped working and cannot activate it with any Fn key... what should I do? how can I fix this please? Greatly appreciate your urgent help!

Answer:Lenovo Flex 2-14 keyboard not working / URGENT HELP PLEASE

Hi,
I do have this symbol on my space bar, but still my keyboard is not working and cannot activate it. Can you please help me with a solution? Thanks.
 
Mod's Edit: Merged this post with existing thread on keyboard issue.
 

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Hi, there I have my new flex 2 - 14 for 2 days but can't figure out how to turn on keyboard backlight."Fn" + "Space" is not working for me.My model is Lenovo Flex 2 - 14 [59422561] (Can't find tech spec for my model =( ) Thanks in advance.

Answer:Lenovo Flex 2 - 14 - Turn On Keyboard Backlight

I would like to know this too as I have just bought one to find out that only SOME models have the backlit keyboard but no-one is able to tell me which model actually has the backlit keyboard.

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My laptop keyboard (Flex 14-Ideapad) not working. When I use wireless keyboard it works in a bizarre way. 
I have tried following :
1) Removed the battery & unplugged laptop. Pressed power button for more than 30 s.
2) Onscreen keyboard working in same bizarre way like wireless keyboard.
3) From Control Panel, selected Ease of Access Centre, than selected Ease of keyboard use & unchecked all check boxes.
4) From login of laptop, selected Ease of access centre & unchecked use of laptop keyboard.
 
All the above things are not working.
Kindly advise.
 
Mod's Edit: System model added to the front of Subject line to improve visibility / clarity.
 

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Does anybody know is Lenovo Plan to bring out an updated keyboard for the Lenovo Flex 15D or Flex Series Ultrabooks? I have had mine now for 2 Weeks and am extremely hapy with its well built construction and its performance however it is missing a crucial peice of technology. A Backlit Keyboard. As Good as the keyboard is and my eyesight for that matter. This machine would seriously benifit from a Back Lit Keyboard. If anyone has any surgestions then please let me know.

Answer:Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 15D In Serious Need of Backlit Keyboard

I just purchased a flex 15D a noticed that upon start up, there's lighting behind the keyboard, and (being new to PC laptops) it took me two nights to figure out that the only way to turn it on is Fn+space.

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Hi,My keyboard no longer works on my Lenovo Flex and I have no idea why or how to stop it. I can plug in a different keyboard and it will  work. I cannot figure out what is going on. Help.Thanks.

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Right now I have a problem with the w key on my laptop key board.  For all the other keys it registers a press when you feel the key give way.  However for my w key you do not have to press it, only rest you finger lightly on it and it will register a keystroke.  This is a problem for me because I rest my finger on W S and E all at the same time which leads to a lot of random w's throughout my typing.  Let me know if there is anything I can do other than replace my keyboard.

Answer:Lenovo Flex 3 1580 Keyboard problem

Hi 18jadietrich, 
 
Greetings. 
 
Try if you have the same issue using an external USB keyboard.
 
As the way described seems to be mechanical in nature and may need hardware servicing.
If your warranty is still active, best to call in technical support to avoid voiding warranty.
 
Users are not required to do manual troubleshooting other than checking if the W key is cleared from foreign materials causing this using compressed air cans.
 
Hope this help answer your query.
 
Regards

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I spilled water on my laptop a few days ago. My screen was fine at first, but then (I assume) water got into some part of the hardware. Now the display is barely visible. I think it could be the inverter board that was affected, but I want to know how to fix it/what part(s) I need.In addition, my keyboard doesn't work. The touchscreen keyboard doesn't work either. I can tap on the keys, but nothing shows up. What is affected so that I can't even use the touchscreen keyboard? Any advice would be much appreciated.













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Answer:Lenovo Flex 14-- screen dim, keyboard not working

Welcome to the Lenovo Community !
 
Water spilled into a laptop can cause a variety of problems as well as short  circuits.  It would be difficult to pin point exactly where your problems lie.  I suspect though that laptop isn't thoroughly dried out yet which maybe part of the problem.  I would suggest you open it up and let it continue to dry out, before proceeding further.  For your reference here is a link to your model's Hardware Maintenance Manual.......
 
https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_flex14flex15_hmm.pdf

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Hello i had my flex for few months now and yesterday i turned it on and keyboard lightning didnt work. No restarts or attempts to turn it on helped. Anyone knows how to fix ?













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Answer:Lenovo Flex 2 14 keyboard light not working

Dear Srotak
 
Welcome in lenovo community
 
Please follow the below steps
 
1- Shut down the machine
2- Connect the charger 
3- Hold the power button down for 15 secs
 
Then check the machine after the restart 
 
Let me know
 
Thanks
Alaa





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please help me to resolve the issue with my flex2 keyboard.

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HI I HAVE  LENOVO FLEX 14 IDEAPAD that is a year old  for a while now a section of the keyboard is not working properly. the 4 5 6 keys and the ones below it need to be puhed hrd for them to work also the m key does not work at all touchscreen seems to work fine would ppreciate some advice thanks

Answer:lenovo flex 14 keyboard not working properly

I think you need a new keyboard maybe.You can test your keys with this software: http://www.passmark.com/products/keytest.htmIf any of the keys do not work, you need to send it in to repair.

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Hi there, I got the problem, that my keyboard and touchpad are not working any more for me. There are some keys, which are still working. These are:- brightness FN keys- light on/off from my screen FN- airplane mode FN key I am using Windows 8. Also i restarted serveral times but no sucsess. My laptop is retty new like 5-6 Month oldplease help me! greetings zunv  PS: I would be very happy if i can write my question in German, to negate communication issues which may happen.Also i am not sure if my question is in the correct Forum. Apologize if its not.

Answer:lenovo flex 15 keyboard and touchpad not working

Hi zunv,
 
you could ask your question in the German forum, select Deutsch in the "support in other languages" menu at the very top of the forum or click the link in my signature.

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Keyboard is turning on and off when in normal laptop mode. the switching on and off is as though laptop is switching to tablet mode/ being turned. I think it may be loose keyboard wires. This started recently and can't relate to any software change or incident to system. Keyboard works fine when raising the laptop with a thumb while on table or plain surface.See the video I uploaded of the issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbdehSyYGpg 

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I recently purchased this laptop and did not spend any time playing on the keyboard prior to the purchase.  I am now regretting this purchase as I cannot understand nor adapt to the right shift key not being in the standard location. Why would Lenovo design a keyboard that would not be conducive to touch typing? I cannot seem to change my 45 years of touch typing experience to accomadate this major change.  It makes no sense.  Is anyone else having this issue and what if anything can be done about it?  

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I have Lenovo Flex 4 15 inch laptop and the letter "C" key has fallen out of the keyboard.  How to replace? where to order replancement key?

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HELP. My keyboard and touchpad stopped working. Laptop is brand new. I checked Control Panel > Device Manager and system says both of them are working fine. Drivers are also updated.I`m typing with an external keyboard and mouse. Touchscreen and touch-keyboard work both fine. Is there anything I can check in the OS to verify what is going on? Maybe I turned off something. It's a mistery, laptop is brand new.Thanks in advance!!













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Answer:Lenovo Flex 2 14, Keyboard & Touchpad stopped working

Found the solution (customer support gave it to me):Hold the power button for 10-15 seconds and turn the laptop back on. The keyboard and touchpad worked again.

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Hello I sent in my Lenovo Flex 15 for warrenty to fix a my loose trackpad. When I got it back the trackpad was still loose but now:1) the trackpad causes the mouse to skip when I drag my finger across - like it jumpsa large distance2) the keyboard is not registering random keys Pretty sure this is not a driver issue as I did a factory reset and I still have these problems. Is there anyway to fix this? I can't send my computer in till December as I just started school.

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Hi guys,I recently bought a lenovo Flex 2 -14" one. It's been almost two weeks now, and I suddenly face this problem.The keyboard and touchpad together keeps getting disconnected at times. The backlight also keeps blinking when turned on. During that time, I am not able to receive any response via the touchpad and keyboard. It's like a loose connection. Keeps turning on and off!!Please help me out asap!Thanks













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Answer:Lenovo flex 2 -14 keyboard and touchpad giving irregular response

Hello, looks like i found the solution! I recently came across another post in this forum, where the user had reported his g5050 showing similar symptoms like mine. A lenovo admin had suggested that it might be due to excess charge stored on the laptop, causing the whole f the keyboard and the touchpad to act like its loosely connected. Solution:As soon as i find my laptop fully charged, immediatley i took off the power plug going into the laptop!And now, its all working fine! 

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Hello,  I have just recieved my lenovo laptop flex 2 14 model 20404, the sticker on the laptop states there is keyboard back lighting which i have no idea how to activate, why is it such a hidden feature!?? I have changed the hotkey settings so the FN key works properly, i have also googled the matter and found that i should press fn + space, but this did not work. now i am frustrated with such a small feature!! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!

Answer:Lenovo Flex 2 14 model 20404, keyboard backlighting problem

For keyboard backlight sticker, is there a word 'optional'? I learn that if the space bar does not have a light icon, then there is no backlight. That's what I see from my Flex 2-15

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Hello, My Lenovo U310 exhibits terrible amounts of flex on the keyboard and the surrounding areas. Does anybody else with the same or similar model have this issue? And, more importantly, does anyone have a fix for this? ie. Home DIY fix etc. Cheers, Martin

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As you see an end of the wire is connected to laptop circuit but the other one is not connected to keyboard body. In fact, I don't know where it must be connected. Check out further image below : http://i68.tinypic.com/fn8my1.jpghttp://i64.tinypic.com/219cvm8.jpghttp://i66.tinypic.com/30kf2wp.jpg

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I have a LeNovo Flex 3 1480 [80R3] for about a year with zero problems. The only modded thing is a Sandisk 480gb SSD drive, with a Windows 10 installation from scratch, installed in the very first day I bought this machine. I was running Windows 10 version 1607 normally, and really enjoying this machine, but since last week when I was booting up, the machine freezed at bootscreen (the one with the lenovo logo) and then restarted showing the message "Preparing Automatic Repair" that took almost a whole day to pass. The repair never happened and I had to use the option to reset windows maintaining my personal files. After this everytime I boot up, windows 10 take up to 10 minutes to boot, and my keyboard and touchpad won't work, leaving me with only the touchscreen option. I've been through a lot of different solutions attempts:- Upgraded BIOS to the latest version (Lenovo colored logo at bootscreen)- Uninstalled KB and Touchpad drivers manually and reinstalled with Lenovo provided drivers, and also repeated the procedure with Windows Update drivers.- Disabled the fast startup option- Done the 15s procedure with the power button- Deattached the battery plug for some minutes and reattached- Checked (unplug and replug) both KB and Touchpad flatwires- Reinstalled the latest Windows 10 version 1703 from scratch None of the solution mentioned above worked for me. KB works perfectly in BIOS, and even when booting up I can change de backlight settings usi... Read more

Answer:LeNovo Flex 3 1480 - Keyboard and touchpad issue after Windows 10 boot up

Adding some info after some new research.Will try other 2 slightly different options:1) 15s power button trick with battery and charger unplugged2) Installation of LeNovo provided Intel ME drivers, read some info that it might interfere at the keyboard and mice functionality. Actually I'm running Windows chipset provided drivers.But still in doubt, which available driver should I install? There are 2 available.1) Intel ME Driver 63.6 MB Windows 10 (64-bit) 11.0.0.1176 - Release 30/8/20162) Intel Management Engine Interface Driver 81.5 MB Windows 10 (64-bit) 11.6.0.1015 - Release 29/11/20163) Both drivers, in release date/version ascending order.

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Dear Sirs, first of all I am from Bucharest, Romania, EU.When I launch the "On Screen Keyboard" meaning the touch keyboard from the screen/display on my Lenovo Flex 2-14, from the icon (keyboard sign) situated on the bottom right of the screen, first any letter I touch, instantly the "On Screen Keyboard" became frozen - NO commands and TO close it is not working - it remains on the screen - the entire botom half of the screen.I tried to close it from the Windows Task Manager but... I do not know the name of the running process for the "On Screen Keyboard".It seems al my drivers are up to date. Every time hapened, the only solution I found was to RESTART the notebook.Can one of you or form the Lenovo specialists to help me, please?Please see the enclosed picture. Thanks a lot for your kind attention. Best regards.


























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Hello, My parents have owned a Lenovo laptop for a couple of years now. However, recently this issue showed up and I wondered whether there is a chance there is a solution to this problem which I could try myself, since the laptop its warranty already expired. If I recall correctly, the model of the laptop is the Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 2, running Windows 10. So here is the issue; the laptop has issues turning on. Oddly enough, it is not a very consistent issue. Eventually, the laptop does turn on. The problem is that this sometimes takes hours, other times the laptop appears to be able to boot instantly as it normally would. I have no idea what affects this. When pressing the power button, the keyboard backlight starts flashing. It does this until the laptop completely boots, and as I said, the amount of time this takes varies. I already tried looking for solutions on different forums, but they usually concern the issue where the keyboard backlight flashed and the laptop simply will not boot at all, which is not the case here, as it eventually does but often it takes a while.Other solutions suggested a certain amount of flashes meant a certain issue or failure. Problem here is that the amount of flashes seem to be random, so it is not as if it just keeps looping a certain amount of flashes as it varies. This leaves me puzzled as to what could be the culprit. I am not sure what to do, especially since I have not owned a Windows-based machine in a whi... Read more

Answer:Laptop has issues booting - keyboard flashing (Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 2)

Hi itsasin,
 
Welcome to the Community Forums.
 
Would you have the machine number or MTM to verify the model (you can also get from here)?
 
Isolating the point of failure may be necessary to determine if the delay on start up is a power issue or a boot problem.
Try removing the harddrive so we can test if the machine can power faster.
You can download the hardware manual from the support website for removal guide.
 
Update us how it goes.
 
Regards

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As you know there is a wire between laptop's motherboard and its keyboard for lighting. one end is properly connected to motherboard but the other one is not connected to keyboard body. In fact, I don't know "where" it must be connected. On keyboard body only there is a black area for that. Check out further image below:https://i.imgsafe.org/caecd1e.jpghttps://i.imgsafe.org/fe25a92.jpghttps://i.imgsafe.org/6581216.jpghttps://i.imgsafe.org/b30619c.jpg

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Hi doe anyone know of a good flight tracker what covers the uk and europe

Answer:A GOOD Flight tracker what covers the uk

Flight tracking of what?Aeroplanes?Birds?Flying pigs?

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howdythis is completey superficial but never the less something i hope you know the answer to Do the leather book covers for the Lenovo S10 fit the Lenovo S10e Those slip on covers are great but i want a more business and easy access styleSo far i haven't found any threads about this subject thanks in advancekit 





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Answer:Lenovo S10 and Lenovo S10e leather covers

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 I have a Lenovo Flex 2-15 that doesn't have a backlit keyboard. I know that the keybord can be taken off, so can the non-backlit keyboard be replaced by a backlit version. I would have thought it would be possible as someone could request a backlit keyboard part for their laptop maybe? Would the process void the warranty and where can I buy the backlit keyboard replacement?

Answer:How to install Backlit Keyboard on non-backlit version of Lenovo Flex 2 15?

I have a Lenovo Flex 2-15 that doesn't have a backlit keyboard. I know that the keybord can be taken off, so can the non-backlit keyboard be replaced by a backlit version. I would have thought it would be possible as someone could request a backlit keyboard part for their laptop maybe? Would the process void the warranty and where can I buy the backlit keyboard replacement?

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I'm not sure how I did it and now I can't fix it the keyboard covers the textbox. You can not see what you are texting and will not scroll up. I have searched the web and can not find anything about this please help! I don't want to have to reset my phone to fix this.

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We've just installed a PC in a particulary dusty environment at work and I am looking to buy 2 keyboard covers and a cover for the 17" flat screen monitor. The keyboard covers I'm looking for are the rubbery type that fit over the keys so that the keyboard can be used with the cover on, (similar to a chip shop till cover). Likewise, I'm looking for a cover for the monitor that allows the monitor to be used with the cover on. I have found a supplier in the USA that has them, but can't find one in the UK. Does anyone know of a company in the UK that can supply them?

Answer:Keyboard & monitor covers

click here

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Does anyone know where you can get a keyboard cover overlay for the SL510?  I have found them for the SL500(but they don't match exactly).

Answer:Keyboard covers for SL510

Hi tek231,Welcome to the forum!eBay has few:-http://cgi.ebay.com/Keyboard-Cover-for-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-SL510-15-6_W0QQitemZ230403293968QQcmdZVie...http://cgi.ebay.com/Keyboard-Skin-Anti-glare-Cover-Lenovo-ThinkPad-SL510_W0QQitemZ230397400840QQcmdZ...http://cgi.ebay.com/Keyboard-Protector-for-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-SL510-15-6_W0QQitemZ260503910325QQcmd...Hope it helps.





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Hello Lenovo and community users,I recently brought a Lenovo Flex 2-14 the one with i3/4gb ram, red colour, model: 20404.I use this notebook to DJ at events in dark environment and I've seen that there are models with backlit keyboards.My next question is can I replace the non backlit keyboard with a backlit keyboard?If it is possible can you please point me from where can I buy a backlit keyboard for this model. Thank you in advance.

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Buy Surface Power Cover - Microsoft Store

Answer:MS power keyboard covers for Surface now available

Ahhh!! It's finally here!

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Will a docking station for t440s work with t450s? Is there a plastic keyboard cover that will work with the thinkpoint

Answer:docking station and keyboard covers

miperelman wrote:
Will a docking station for t440s work with t450s?

Yes, but you should keep in mind that (similar to the T440s) only the integrated graphics version of the ThinkPad T450s has a docking port.

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So my SO is a bilingual teacher and frequently uses letters with accents for assignments and other things but she's having a hard time getting accents with the Surface Keyboard cover. It's easy without the cover, you just press and hold the letter and the letter with accents pops up. Does anyone know how to get accents working from the keyboard cover?

Answer:How can I use accents with the Surface keyboard covers?

Have you seen this thread?

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I am using Lumia950 (OS build 10.0.14393.693)
Recently from last 2 days - touch keyboard when shown (in any app) - started covering the input field (textbox).
This is making it pretty difficult in cases like :
- I can't see chat updating behind it
- Copy icon gets half hidden behind keyboard
I also checked for OS updates (there weren't any installed before this problem).
I also tried restarting my phone - no luck.
Is anyone of you facing the same issue ? Any solutions ?

Answer:Lumia 950 Keyboard covers input textbox

Thank you for using the search feature! :D
Hold the space bar down and move the keyboard back down to it's original spot.

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I really love the 10586.29 firmware update on my 950 XL, in particular the significant increase in battery life. Now since yesterday night (happy new year btw) suddenly the keyboard covers the lover half of the screen and input fields of any app (Whatsapp, Messages, Edge, proprietary eMail) are not displayed above anymore. If the app positions the input field at the bottom of the screen I can see a glimpse though the gaps between the letter fields apart from that I am typing blindly. Like just now ? I tried rebooting and all keyboard sizes. Any way to change this back to normal?

Answer:Suddenly keyboard covers input field on 950 XL

I have exactly the same problem with L1520 and Windows 10 mobile

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Just upgraded to windows 10 on my surface 3, the only thing, MAJOR thing that is bugging me and making me want to revert back to 8.1....

On 8.1, the window I was using resized itself so the entire window was visible. Windows 10 has decided I don't need to see the bottom half of a page whilst I am using the keyboard.

So if I want to type Facebook messages I have to keep opening and closing the keyboard to check what I have typed.

I know they've had a lot of bugs to sort, but I CANNOT believe this has been overlooked.

Tablet mode doesn't solve the problem and I don't intend to use tablet mode, it's utter garbage.

I really hope someone has a solution! I've been trying to sort it for the last 4 hours.

Answer:Surface 3 - keyboard covers up half of page - solutions??

+1 very annoying - will this be fixed?

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In Windows Mobile 10 Technical Preview.... I'm trying to add new e-mail accounts. Whenever I reach the lower two-thirds of the account page, i'm unable to enter some information as the keyboard covers the box and I'm unable to scroll down any further?

Answer:I'm unable to enter details in some boxes because the keyboard covers them up?

Hit the back arrow key at the bottom of your phone. This will remove the keyboard but not undo anything you've just entered.
Then scroll the page to get to the next box that you need to enter text.

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Hi.. I have bought a lenovo g50-80 a year ago. The plastic around the hinges have broke and im thinking to replace the whole plastic cover of the laptop, but i have a difficulty finding used plastic covers for this laptop or used laptops for replacements. My question is....With which lenovo laptop models g50-80 has the same plastic covers? If i bought plastic covers from a g50-70 or other type of the g series...will they fit? Thank you and sorry for my english....

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Hi!
Problem:
(it's in tablet mode)
I turn on the keyboard, and it covers the input field in the browser, so I can't see what I type. Is there some hidden option to make browser scroll the page or whatever?

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I am currently using a Lenovo Flex 3 1470 and the keyboard for it stopped working and now I can't type any numbers or activate any function keys. I have spilled tea on my laptop and got it wet in the past so I am now looking to get my keyboard replaced.  I have managed to find some Flex 2 14 inch US keyboards on eBay for less than $20 that look exactly the same as the one on my laptop, but I can't be certain unless someone confirms.  Are the 2 keyboards the same? 

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The rubber feet and screw covers have fell off. The glue seems to got sticky and soft.  Where can i get the replacement parts

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Hi, I have a Lenovo Flex 2 14 which came with a British keyboard but I noticed you can take off the keyboard and swap it out for another one - you can find backlit versions, or a version with a different layout. I got a keyboard for it with Japanese hiragana on it, but the laptop doesn't seem to recognise any of the extra keys this keyboard comes with which have key codes not used by other languages. These keys include: | -? \ ??????the ????, ???? and ???? toggleI would have assumed this was to do with the fact that these are keys from a 106/109 key layout as opposed to the standard 102 key, so I replaced the keyboard driver with Microsoft's 106/109 key keyboard driver, but that hasn't had any effect - it still can't see these keys being pressed. The ??/?? ?? key works because it uses the same key code as the tilde on other keyboards, but that's all. My hypothesis for why this might not be possible to fix is that the ribbon connection between the keyboard and the motherboard could only support 102-key layouts in Europe, and therefore the only way to be able to use these extra input conversion keys without a different motherboard altogether would be to use an external USB keyboard. I may have just made up what I said about the motherboard though, so does anyone know if there's a driver I can use to solve this problem and be able to use the extra keys? I can't just use a key mapper like KeyTweak ... Read more

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I've been using conservation mode for my new (1 month) lenovo laptop every time I put the AC adapter in it. I thought that this was going to help me endure my battery life, but in the end I've stacked with the fact, that battery's stamina went much more lower. For example, I could use my laptop in a battery economy mode/conservation turned off for 5-6 hours, now it barely lasts 3 hrs with the same settings and the same pattern of usage. Just for record, 21 minute of watching a film costs my battery from 10-20% now, while before it was not an issue at all, I hardly can tell that it drained me more than 5%. Also, right now, while typing this, I've noticed, that behaviour of my percentage bar is also really strange: first it shows 75%, then, after 5 minutes, it showes 73%, without getting through 74%. And as a one big plus to that, my battery status says that my battery is normal, just normal, while before it was great or something like that. I find it strange because it is 1 month old notebook, as I mentioned earlyer. Now I am trying to recalibrate my battery, for the 3d time, hoping it would help me, but I really wish to hear your opinion about that, maybe there is something that I don't know about, something that can help me. P.S. It is 70% now, gezus 

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Dear all,  I can not reach Lenovo App Shop in Lenovo Aura Flex 20.  It tells me System error 105 - network connection, but my WLAN is up and running.  Who can help and whom to contact to get that fixed?

Answer:Can not reach Lenovo App Shop in Lenovo Aura Flex 20

download ccleaner and go in registery and do a scan at least 3 time and each time fix everything and save a backup before in case it break other thing

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Just unboxed my Lenovo Flex 3 and so far I pretty much love it. My only problem is I cannot access the "Lenovo Settings" app on Windows 8.1. It asks if I want to send info back to the devs to help with the app but then it freezes and sends me back to the desktop. Is there a fix for this problem? Also, I am unsure how to change my preferences for my trackpad. I go to Control Panel, but there is no option for "Mouse" like I am used to to adjust my touch preferences. Any help on this too?  Thanks guys,Stephen

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I just bought a flex 2 15, which I settled on because I wanted to buy from a brick and mortar store so I can return easily if I Dont like it. I'm slightly concerned with the amount of flex in the keyboard even with light typing. As I plan on using this for school, and a lot of typing, is this am issue I should consider returning it for? Thank you in advance for any advice!

Answer:Flex 2 15 keyboard flex

hi eod_mickelson,
 
Welcome to the Forums.
 
I haven't seen anyone reported any issue about the keyboard being mushy when being pressed but there were reports about the keyboard suddenly not working from the thread below:
 
Flex 2 15 Keyboard problems
 
Although the keyboard being disabled is a normal feature on this machine while on tent mode, I don't think this will cause a problem in the wrong run (unless you feel uncomfortable with the mushy feeling while typing)
 
More info on the keyboard in this review.
 
 
Regards

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Hi guys,  I just got the Lenovo Flex 10 Ideapad today and am very happy with it. I was uninstall some unwanted software and accidently uninstalled Lenovo Fusion software!  Just wondering if there is a link where I can redownload this - or maybe it's not important?   Thank you. 

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Hey guys, first time here and I just want to inform you that I'm not a genius so please talk like you're talking to a 9years old kid..So my problem is as the title says.. Well it started when I opened my laptop from sleep mode then it was hanging up and then it suddenly turned blue with sad face.. I didn't read the problem clearly but i remember it saying a problem about "kernel_????_????"..I tried to hard reset my laptop cause it was taking so much time then it ended up stuck on the logo... Now I'm the one with the blue sad face...http://postimg.org/image/jk81q4bitHope you guys can help me as soon as possible., thanks in advance..
 
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Answer:lenovo flex 15 is stuck on lenovo logo

Try to do a recovery and see if it helps. Press on the Novo button to start the Lenovo OneKey Recovery.More information available at Page 26 of the PDFhttp://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_flex14flex14dflex15flex15d_ug_english.pdfHope this helps =)

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Hey guys, first time here and I just want to inform you that I'm not a genius so please talk like you're talking to a 9years old kid..

So my problem is as the title says.. Well it started when I opened my laptop from sleep mode then it was hanging up and then it suddenly turned blue with sad face.. I didn't read the problem clearly but i remember it saying a problem about "kernel_????_????"..

I tried to hard reset my laptop cause it was taking so much time then it ended up stuck on the logo... Now I'm the one with the blue sad face...



Hope you guys can help me as soon as possible., thanks in advance..

Answer:lenovo flex 15 is stuck on lenovo logo

Right, you mentioned it turned blue with a sad face, that is a Blue Screen of Death (or proper term is Kernel bugcheck) which indicates something has gone wrong.
In order to help we'll need the .dmp files.
Follow these instructions:

http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ta-452654.html

Post back the correct files in your next reply, do note that it would be helpful if you uploaded them in another reply and not edit your first post as I won't get a notification via email you've edited the post.
It just helps me get back to you easier.

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I was wondering if $115 for a brand new AT&T Lumia 830 with FitBit Flex a good deal?
Thanks :)

Answer:Good Deal? AT&T Lumia 830 with Fitbit Flex

Considering the Flex is still worth $70-100 last time I checked, Yes.
Even with the update situation. Although Update 2 + Lumia Denim has appeared in the Recovery Tool, so it may change from a great deal to an amazing deal shortly. It's still ATT tied, but you just can't beat that price!
It falls into too-good-to-be-true territory, so be careful!

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Hi to all...I've lenovo g560 laptop whose keyboard is not working properly.Now, a replacement laptop keyboard for lenovo g570 is available at local market.So, will it be compatible with my lenovo g560..Thanks in advance

Answer:Is lenovo g570 laptop keyboard compatible with lenovo g560's keyboard

hi hamzaali52,
 
Welcome to the Forums.
 
Looking at the keyboard part numbers for the G560 (see page 79-80 of the HMM) and the G570 (see page 79-83 of the HMM), there are no matching part numbers between the two models, thus, the keyboard may fit but it may not work due to a whitelist of compatible parts or due to a different keyboard ribbon/cable layout.
 
I recommend you stick to the part numbers listed on the HMM (Hardware Maintenance Manual) for best compatibility.
 
 - Sample Item (G560)
 - Sample Item (G570)
 
 
Regards

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Hello! My lenovo y50 has some bugging keyboard flex issues around the "x" button and in the number pad. My roommate has the same laptop and the quality build of his appears to be much better than mine and we both got them within 2 weeks from each other in August. My question is, can I send this in for a replacement with better build quality? Please help!

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Question: flex 2 keyboard

can anyone tell me if i can replace my existing keyboard with a backlit one on my flex 2 15 haswell version 20405 model thanks

Answer:flex 2 keyboard

I have the same laptop, I feel a bit conned, as the sticker on the screen says 'Backlit Keyboard - Optional'....How is this optional, if it doesn't even have the hardware to enable this....???????  Very annoyed, as this was one of the reasons I purchased this laptop. Come on Lenovo, make it a bit clearer on your packaging....

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What is up with the keyboard layout for the Flex 4 14"?  The page up arrow button is where the shift button should be so if you need to capitalize a letter using your right hand you have to stretch out to reach it & it's smaller than the one on the left side.  I had the Flex 3 same size with a normal layout. ???  Don't want to go with the 15" but may need to drop down to the Flex 3.

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Basically my "A" key has come off my (English UK) keyboard, it does stay there (it still comes off if you touch in the right place), but is this an easy thing to fix and replace?Many thanks in advance

Answer:Flex 2 14" keyboard key

Dear Sir welcome to Lenovo Community Actually it can be fixed but you should deliver your machine to the service center to replace the whole keyboard.   Best Of Luck

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I am really dissapointed with the thinkpad service here in India. I purchased my laptop from Thailand and now I have been in India for a while. I requested for a keyboard replacement and got the keyboard which is shown in the video link below .When i complained about the flex in the replaced keyboard they refused to replace as they said the purchase of machine was in Thailand and they wont replace on that grounds.My question is that is this the quality of thinkpad keyboard?I would really appreciate if you could mail me a new decent thinkpad keyboard the soonest without making me go through all the redtapes because the customer service here in india is horrible ( took them 5 days to replace the palm rest- 2 days they wasted because they brought wrong parts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhqUMwMPO_A  Thank YouKunal Ahuja  moderator note: model added to title Message Edited by Agotthelf on 26-03-2009 08:14 PM

Answer:R61: My keyboard has a lot of flex .

please turn up the volume when viewing the video.thank you kunal ahuja  moderator note: model added to title Message Edited by Agotthelf on 26-03-2009 08:16 PM

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Question: T400 Keyboard flex

I have a T400 bought last September and is of the 2764 machine type. The keyboard is extremely flexy, bowing downwards even with slight pressure. It seems like I received an early generation model without the extra keyboard bracing. I've sent the laptop to EasyServ twice to get the keyboard stiffened, but the problem has not been solved at all. I'm planning on installing the additional bracing myself, so does anyone know how I can the additional keyboard bracing? Thanks.













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Answer:T400 Keyboard flex

just get a T61 type keyboard, call in the warranty department and ask them to send you an T61 style keyboard. 

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Hello, i need help with Fn keys. I already disabled shortcut function from BIOS, but the thing is, the shortcut reactivated after reboot by some reason. BUT when i check the BIOS once more, the shortcut function still "Disabled". I need to turn it back to enable then disable once more for it to work, BUT yes, the problem is still there after reboot.  Is there something i need to do to make it work? And no, there is no "hotkey" option in my PC and device setting Best regards

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Hi: This post is primarily directed toward any Lenovo Representative on this board, but comments from all are welcome. I am and my company are lifelong Thinkpad users (first IBM, now Lenovo). I recently purchased the S10, and LOVE it! However, I have one problem: The upper right quadrant of the keyboard has SIGNIFICANT flex.  This is NOT subtle. It is both visible (you can see the keyboard go up/down), and audible (when you press a key in that area, you can hear the keyboard as it reaches bottom). It makes typing on that side of the keyboard very difficult. In particular, the large BackSpace and Enter keys are particularly troublesome. I have had thinkpads with keyboard flex problems before, and have solved the problem by reseating the keyboard. But, I have no idea how to do it on this machine. Is there a hardware manual? Is it even possible to do? If not, what should I do. I really do not want to send a machine I just received yesterday in for repair. If there is no other way, how do I exchange it for another one? Thanks, Leon 













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Answer:New S10 - Keyboard Flex Problem

usually if the unit is bought from an authorized reseller(or valued business partner), you will enjoy an "express warranty" for lets say one week or one month or 15days(depending on the merchantability contract), which will include outright replacement. you can call them and ask for a "system exchange."Message Edited by techtroubadour on 10-12-2008 11:37 AM

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I purchase my Lenovo Ideapad Flex 4 in June and am currently encountering some squeaking on some of the keyboard keys (mainly the space bar). It is really annoying and was wonder if this issue is covered since I am still currently under warranty?

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Spoiler (Highlight to read)   Hi all,I recently got this problem with my flex 2 14, the keys dont repeat when held down. For example when i press backspace, it deletes one letter only after holding down. My filter key is off and i even did a system restore, but the problem still persist. Any idea what is happening?

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Question: X301 Keyboard Flex

I am a new Thinkpad owner. Just received my X301. The flex around the letter Q, and P, seem more than I had expected. The surrounding keys flex with the respective keys. Is this normal behaviour? Or do I have a defective keyboard? Thanks for any feedback. 

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Just got a Flex 2 15 laptop yesterday and the keyboard stopped working.  I thought I had done something to shut off or disable the keyboard but when googling the problem,this seems like it is a some what reoccurring problem.  The operating systems is 8.1 and it has the touch screen....  I ended up going to the device manager to uninstall the key board per a hint I read online.  After uninstalling the key board and restarting the computer the keyboard started functioning again along with the touch pad. Is this a common problem with Lenovo or windows 8.1 versions.  Seems to be be quite a few hits on this when searching..... Any feedback...

Answer:Flex 2 15 Keyboard problems

May I know where u get the laptop ? I ve been finding the new flex 2 15 model too...

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I really really like the look of the new T500. They are priced well and offer good performance for the money. The only issue I have is the posts related to the keyboard. As I dont know anyone with a T500 so I can examine it in detail, I have no way of verifying how bad the problem is.Any thoughts? How bad is the problem?Obviously im not going to be willing to shell out cash on a notebook that has a known serious problem.

Answer:T500 Keyboard and Flex (How bad is it)

please see the response to your inquiry here.   you are welcome to read the existing discussions on the topic.  we would appreciate not starting new threads on the subject to avoid splintering the topic at hand. thanks for your understanding and cooperation.  duplicate thread locked.

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How do I enable the illuminated keyboard

Answer:Flex 2 14 Illuminated Keyboard

Good day and welcome to the community.
Does your spacebar have this symbol on it:
If so, please try Fn+spacebar.
 
Please note page 7 of the hardware manual:
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_flex_2_14_flex_2_14d_flex_2_15_flex_2_15d_ug_...
says: "(on select models)".
 
Regards.

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Question: G450 Keyboard Flex

I recently bought a new G450 and I've noticed that the keyboard flexes a little when I use the keys in the middle top region.  It is noticeable even when i press the keys lightly.  Is this normal?  How do I fix this?

Answer:G450 Keyboard Flex

bump?

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Question: W701 Keyboard Flex

Seems like the left side of the keyboard is loose or flexes more than the right side.  Not solid.  Does anyone else have this issue or know of a fix? Regards,Dale

Answer:W701 Keyboard Flex

I'm having this issue with my W701, too.  I've tried affixing several small patches of double-sided tape between the keyboard bezel and the bottom of the left-hand side of the keyboard. It helped reduce the flex 'locally' whether the double-sided tape has been applied but appeared to induce 'local' flex to the part of the keyboard without the double-sided tape applied. I think the reason is that the double-sided tape had made the bottom surface of the keyboard more uneven. So, this is sadly not a solution.

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I am planning to buy SL510.I  googled and have read that a few people buyed models with keyboard that flexes .I haven't found anything on this forum.Is keyboard suppose to flex or flexing means that it is bad model? 

Answer:SL510 keyboard flex

I have the SL500 and have used a number of other SL500 and SL510 laptops.  The keyboards on this model work well but they are designed with price as the primary focus.  The best way I can desribe the feel is slightly "spongy" as in it will bend a little of you press on it.  I really disliked this at first and felt it was very cheap, as my previous laptop keyboard was very firm and solid.  Now that I'm used to it I don't even notice it anymore unless I use a much more expensive machine, just keep in mind that the SL series gives you a lot of computer for your money, they had to shave costs somewhere.

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Question: W530 keyboard flex

Hello, Previously I have posted a question concerning replacing the keyboard on the W530, even though this has nothing to do with the issue I am experiencing now. I am aware of the fact that I am not the only one that is experiencing keyboard flex in the left section of the keyboard. But when I press with a tad of force, I actually hear how the back of the keyboard hits the fan (which concerns me badly.) Upon ordering, the only change I made in hardware on the official lenovo website was choosing the option to put in a backlit keyboard (which resulted in longer shipping, etc etc). I am wondering if this flex and fan hitting thing are normal things, and perhaps caused by the thinkpad being opened up and having the keyboard replaced with another one? Thanks in advance! 

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Hi all, I recently got my Thinkpad W520 and I staight away observed a flex on the keyboard near the nav pointer (key presses around it make a different noise compared to the other end of the keyboard).  Also, near the power button, I can hear different sound and when i press around the power button, I can clearly see that the plastic goes in & out. Even at the bottom of the lcd screen(not on the screen) i can see this flex and it looks solid in all other parts. Is this expected?  Or did i get a defective one? Thanks in advance. Cheers,Robustm My System W520 427637U - i7 2720Q - 8GB - NVidia Quadro 1000













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Answer:W520 flex on the keyboard

The keyboard of my W520 flexes near the navigation keys as you described. This has happened since W510. I opened the keyboard and notice that the base plate of W520 keyboard is even thinner than that of W510. I attached some little pieces of 1-mm thick 3M double-sided adhesive tape between the keyboard and the structural frame. It helps.





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hi, some of the keys on my keyboard started to not work? first my left shift, now the letter t and backspace ... and lately the caps lock is having a hard time working too ... help please !!
thanks .....?
 
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hi, since i bought this laptop (flex 2-14) one month ago i have only trouble. will start with the first: the letter "g" on keyboard is not working (i am typing this using the screen keyboard). What to do? 

Answer:flex 2-14 keyboard problem

Dear Parthi9,
 
Thank You For Contacting Lenovo.
 
Kindly contact one of the numbers below for more assistant.
 

 
 





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Question: u510 Keyboard Flex

I just have to say that the keyboard flex on the u510 is terrible....why would such a low quality keyboard be allowed to ship? I tested it the other day and hated it...

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