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Question: WHS 2012 Essentials Storage Spaces

Ok so I have been reading up here on rants and different things on the storage spaces piece...

I went from WHS v1 to WHS2011 now but am not running any backups or duplication or anything....

I am now running WHS2012E (if you will)...on a machine to make sure it all looks good. But I only have 1 drive in it at the moment..

so in my ESX 5.5i environment I installed it then added 2 drives...

just for confirmation....

what is the mimimum size drive to use for the OS???
I have a 1tb in there and was going to get 2 x 3tb drives.. and only use them.
but V1 would allow you to duplicate data that way but the new WHS2012E does not.
seems drive pool must be 2 seperate drives in addition to the OS drive so it makes no sense why wyou would want a 3tb OS drive...
(verified this by more googling... hah)
am I missing something here?

I am thinking 250gb or 320gb drive for OS (have them already)
3 x 1tb drive in a pool then mirrored x1 (as I have them too) - if that is what it is called...

I dont need 2 copies of this and 3 copies of that.. raid 5 for this and all that...

I have pics, movies, data files that are shared out to computers in the house... I just want to make sure if a drive goes I can get all my data back....

recommendations?

this machine will be running
movie share
music share
data share
Homeseer - home automation
CCTV - 8 cameras

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Did a fresh install of Microsoft Server 2012 R2 Essentials and followed the storage pool wizard by mistake and setup with mirror instead of Stripe + Parity (just MKV etc. storage).

Rookie mistake but how could I simply delete the pool (and folders) and redo manually?

I'm googling like crazy but can't find a solution yet.

I would like to format the drives and re-setup the storage pool.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thx guys.
 

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I created a Storage pool with the following setup. Three 3TB drives with parity all in an external enclosure with eSata and USB 2/3 ports. It was connected via USB when created and had production data loaded and tested without any issues.
After a few days of use I decided to see what happened when I tried to access it via the eSata port. No luck, due to a driver on the eSata card issue with Win 8. So I powered all back down and plugged back in via USB. At this point the Storage pool went
into the state as per the screenshot below. Any suggestions to either fix the issue and/or retrieve the data that is in the volume?

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Apologies if this has already been covered. I did try a search but got nothing specific to my problem.

I currently have 4 Windows 8.1 Pro units around my desk.
One is general day to day.
One is gaming, audio & video work.
One is a currently retired 'server' for backups.
One is the replacement 'server' for backups.
This contains an SSD system disk, a 2Tb HDD for Macrium Reflect images and 2 Storage Space pools.
One consists of 2x250Gb HDD's called DATA & assigned to drive letter 'D'.
The other consists of 4x1TB HDD's called STORAGE & assigned to drive letter 'E'

The replacement 'server' unfortunately decided to go do-lally :(
All I know is, it suddenly decided to reboot 4 days ago and everything went haywire.

As a result I purchased a new motherboard, CPU, ram with the intention of building a fresh install of windows 8.1 on the basis the storage pools would show up in the new system.

Here is the problem !
The pools show up in Control panel /Storage Spaces as DATA (F:) and STORAGE (G:)
Both pools show as OK and all 6 drives show as OK.
If I click on 'view files' nothing happens :(
If I go to windows explorer they show up as Local Disk (F:) and Local Disk (G:)and if I double click to open I get a 'Location is not available. F:\ is not accessible. The volume repair was not successful'. Same for G:

Why is Storage Space manager saying they are working properly when nothing else can access them?
Are they recoverable somehow or have I lost everything ?

Answer:Storage Spaces not in Explorer, show in Manage Stor Spaces

nice

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Has anyone tried the new Storage Spaces feature in Windows 8? Your experience with it?

More specifically:

1. If this system is used on a shared network with other operating systems such as XP and Windows 7, can the storage pool drives be set up as shared, and become visible and usable from the XP and Win 7 machines?

2. If you have a Network Backup drive, like WD My Book Live, will it see and back up the Storage Spaces configured drive just like any other drive on the network?

Answer:Storage Spaces (Storage Pool) Experience?

I've only set this up on a Windows Server 2012 configuration therefore I cannot provide the exact steps on how to set one up in a client environment. That being said, a storage space/pool is essentially a virtual disk that resides on one or multiple physical disks allowing you to accumulate free space. For example if I have multiple servers with free space on their data drives I can then create a storage pool to accumulate this. To allocate this storage pool/space to a user or machine you will need to decide what you wish to do with it. Below are a couple of examples of how:

Share via Windows Folder Sharing (UNC Path)Use iSCSI to use the current ethernet infastructure allowing you to assign the storage pool/space a drive letter to the client machineIn a server environment you may wish to use it for DFS (Distributed File System) to maintain redundancy

Personally I use my storage pool as an iSCSI drive for which i have partitioned.

   Warning
You can only use the free space of a non Windows install drive. To my knowledge you cannot overcome this with partitioning.

In relation to your second question, you will only able to use the share as a safepoint backup if it is shared via Windows Folder Sharing. For example: \\computername\share

Also you will need to make sure that the NAS is on the same workgroup as the Windows 8 machine hosting the storage pool otherwise it will not be able to find the share. Hopefully this is what you asking however pleas... Read more

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My school gives us server 2012 standard for free. I am wondering if it's possible to install it as 2012 essentials with the same features as essentials kind of like how win pro had every thing home had. Or are the features of server essentials not included in standard? (Features like full pc back up and the dashboard like whs 2011)
 

Answer:can you setup server 2012 standard as 2012 essentials?

Different media for the install, Server Standard and Datacenter use the same media. Essentials has it's own install disk and Foundation and Storage Server share the same media.
 

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Question: Storage Spaces

I'm issues setting up Storage Spaces. I keep getting this.

Any help? Thanks.

Answer:Storage Spaces

Anyone?

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Question: Storage Spaces

I currently have 9 TB of data on storage spaces. I have it setup as a simple storage with no redundancy. I would like to add a new drive and pull out an old drive. I have followed many tutorials to do this but nothing seems to be working. I tried to mark the old drive as retired and remove it but windows will not move the data off of it. Is there a better way to do this? I am familiar enough with powershell so if I need to use that I can. If I knew it was going to be this hard to remove a drive I would have just used drive bender. Is there a way to take my existing storage pool and convert it to another program or go in at the drive level and move the files off the drive I want to drop?

Thank you

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Question: Storage Spaces

I have two drives (750 gb each) in a hardware mirror raid which the contents are very important to me. I bought a 2 TB drive which I created a new storage pool. I transferred all the contents from the hardware raid to the new storage pool (the 2 TB drive). Can I add a two way mirror to the storage pool (or convert the pool to mirror) after if I format and add the two 750 gb drives? When I created the pool, I did not have an extra drive to use for mirroring so I had to select the "none" option for resiliency.

Answer:Storage Spaces

I am sceptical of mirroring. It takes extra real time during operation and wastes a lot of space.

With all that disk space I would setup partitions for the data and image those. You can schedule that for as often as you like. It runs in the background and compresses the data. That way you use only about 60% of the space.

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Question: Storage spaces.

I use storage spaces configured with two external drives connected to my Lenovo helix. All works well since the last major upgrade.
I will be traveling and need to disconnect the Lenovo from the drives. Do I need to turn off storage spaces or will it catch up when I plug the Lenovo back in?
Alex.

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Question: Storage Spaces

Hello, I am transferring all my data away from a WD MyCloud and moving it into my desktop. Currently I have 2 3TB drives in the MyCloud that I will be installing in the desktop after I move everything over. Well, I was almost done when the storage space filled up. So I plugged in a 500 GB drive temporarily and attempted to move the last 10GB of data over. It is still saying that its full and won't let me transfer it. I also tried deleting a few large files, but its still not letting me do anything. The 500GB drive is in the pool showing just a few files. Is there any way to rebalance the drives? Thanks for any help.

Answer:Storage Spaces

Currently I have 2 3TB drives in the MyCloud that I will be installing in the desktop after I move everything over



Read this before moving the HDDs:
Windows support for hard disks that are larger than 2 TB

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Question: Storage Spaces

Storage Spaces are a very intriguing part of W8. I'd like to give them a try. From what I've read if I try to use Storage Spaces on drives with files the files will be deleted. Is this correct?

If I move my files to another drive that's won't be part of my pool, can I then move them back to my new pools and have them on a drive with the same drive letter so the programs that use them can access them?

I would probably be using my F and G drives to use Storage Space. I assume I can give the pools the same drive letters then move the corresponding files over to them and my programs will be none the wiser that they are part of a Storage Pool?

Answer:Storage Spaces

Storage Space is quite interesting and I've spent a fair amount of time playing with it. And in the event that your host computer dies, you can simply pull out the drives, move them to another Windows 8 host and the system reads the storage spaces metadata baked into them and reassembles on the next computer without you having to do anything.

Yes, when you setup drives in your pool, it's going to format them at the start..so files would be wiped out. Copy them elsewhere and then copy them back.

Correct, you can assign and change the drive letters associated with your pools. And the programs are none the wiser as to which type of storage they are on.

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Question: Storage Spaces

This is probably a dumb question, but, having created the pool, how do I put stuff in it? When I check the External Drive (d in my case) it says the file is empty .
Also my computer will not boot up until I detach the external drive. This has only occurred since I created storage places. What have I done wrong ? The last item in the screen shot (Toshiba) is the external drive

Answer:Storage Spaces

i think you need to make sure the computer harddrive is first in the list of drives to boot to in the BIOS ,to fix the computer not booting when the external is plugged in .
and to use the drive for storage you will have to add the files you want to save to it there yourself

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I was performing a removal of an HDD using the storage spaces feature (because it had the yellow exclamation) and the computer then went into sleep/hibernate mode and when I noticed I started the computer back up and then it showed that the Storage Space was offline.

At the moment I am somewhat freaking out because I have all my video footage on there so I am hoping nothing is wrong. I have five "1 TB" drives hooked up using a Parity setup where according to the info says 'using 2.11 TB of 4.54 TB pool capacity' so I might be ok, but I am not sure.

The problem is that the drive I was trying to remove because it had an yellow exclamation point on it is now saying "Information Preparing for removal" which has been there for hours and my PC led light is blinking for hours as well. There was a point when a window popped out saying unable to remove HDD and when I clicked ok I closed all the windows but now that particular HDD simply shows "Preparing for removal" which has not changed since the issue started. When I now click on the Storage Spaces window it lags and seems out of place. To be honest I have no idea what is happening I can't click on anything and it looks bugged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to submit further information please let me know.

Answer:Storage Spaces Trouble

Managed to fix it. Basically reconnecting the drives did the trick.

I unplugged all the storage drives and booted with the OS drive alone. I then turned off the PC and plugged back the drives and Storage Spaces managed to finish removal process of the above drive. Once that was done I turned off the PC, unplugged said drive and everything was working fine. I then replaced the empty drive.

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I have been running windows 8 since the 1st Developer preview and have loved every minute of, not had a single problem. When I upgraded the the final version of Windows 8 I decided to use the storage spaces feature to pool my media drives.

And all of a sudden last week i was unable to vie my storage space, looking under the settings for the storage space. it says "Media Drive 1" 'Warning separated form pool; reset drive'.

I am am not able to access any of the data on the two drives. I have physically removed 1 drive and tried to access the data, I have installed the drives in another machine and still no luck.

I am wondering if there is any other way for me to access the data on the 2 drives that are in the pool.

Thanks for your help.

Answer:Storage Spaces error

I will attempt to help, assuming your Storage Space was set up as a Two way Mirror. If you did not use resiliency, let us know. The fact you cannot access the space in Explorer does not look good.

Since your drive shows as disconnected, do you know what caused it assume that state? Did you move it or add any drives?

The best option is to reconnect the drive and allow the Space to be rebuilt. But even with one drive showing as disconnected, I could still access the files in Explorer. It you are not running a Mirrored or Parity Space, the files may not be accessible.

The second option would be to add another drive to take the place of the one lost. After you remove the disconnected drive, the Space should rebuild itself.

See the attachment for a progression of having a drive fail. The total Pool space available should always be a consideration, and a Mirrored space needs twice as much available space as the data filling it.

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Hello. I read somewhere in a Storage space you can attach drives with different sizes.. I got a pool made of 3 x 500 GB drives. Now i added a 3 TB drive to the pool. But when i try to moves files to the drive. The disk goes offline and under "disk managemet" the disk is offline cause its out of space. Is it cause it cant use the 3 tb drive with 3 x 500 ? in a pool ?

Update: I found the answer. The storage pool does not automatic rebalance the drives. Will this be added in the future ?

Answer:Windows Storage spaces

Take look at those tutorial:
Storage Pool - Delete in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Add or Remove Drives from Storage Pool in Window 8
Storage Spaces - Create a New Pool and Storage Space in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Delete a Storage Space in a Storage Pool in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Rename Storage Pool, Storage Space, and Drives
Storage Spaces Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

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Ok, I've read around online on the faults of this, and Ars Technica has a very good article on it:
http://arstechnica.com/information-...aces-explained-a-great-feature-when-it-works/

However, who here on [H] have personally used it, tried it, and can share some experiences with it?

If it's not all that it's cracked up to be, I may end up buying FlexRAID for $60. I haven't tested SnapRAID yet, but it is another consideration.
 

Answer:Windows 8 and Storage Spaces

Looks like it will work well for my needs, which is storing my bluray rips to stream around my house. When I can find some time i'll get it setup.
 

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I've got a media server that has Windows 8.1 on it and I'm using Storage spaces for file duplication, around 14TB's. Has anyone heard of any issues in pooling/corruption when moving from 8.1 to 10? I'm able to Update to 10 now but figured I'd ask first. If all I had was a couple hundred gigs I'd just back it up and not care but with this many files backup before upgrading is not an option
 

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Hi Guys..

Been reading about Storage Spaces. All the examples use only 1 HDD....Can SS work with multiple HDD as primary, I mean I have 8 Hard Drives. I understand the pool concept, will the Mirror function mirror all 8 drives...

How would one do this? All the examples use only 1 drive a C-drive

Thank you

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Hi Guys..

Been reading about Storage Spaces. All the examples use only 1 HDD....Can SS work with multiple HDD as primary, I mean I have 8 Hard Drives. I understand the pool concept, will the Mirror function mirror all 8 drives...

How would one do this? All the examples use only 1 drive a C-drive

Thank you

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Hi Everyone Long time reader just needed help now ,
Been running 4x 2TB HDD In Parity mode within storage spaces.
I have just added 2x 2TB more to the storage pool. Which went fine.
So i now have a total of 6x 2TB drives.
question i have is the 2 new drives are empty. I thought storage spaces would move all the data so all the drives are in sync.

at the moment the 4 old drive have the data and the new drives dont have any.
Of course i understand this but point using storage spaces is if a drive fails i can replace it and not lose any data. if there not all in sync this wont work right ?
Am i missing something ?
thanks alot all

Answer:Windows Storage Spaces.. Little help ?

this the only way ?






Right now the poor man's rebalancing is:- right-click largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- right-click second largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- right-click third largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- ...
- right-click smallest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
Storage Spaces already is recognized by the "Disk Defragmenter and Opitmizer" as being a Storage Space, and will offer to "Optimize" the drive.
Except that it claims the efficiency is 100% when in reality it's not 100%:
http://i.imgur.com/XGbkVgm.png
It seems like there's was the spot created where the functionality was *going* to go; it just never ended up being written.
It would be nice to finally have it written.

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Hi, I want to configure one PC with 2 HDD with Win8.1 Pro with storage spaces with mirroring. I want to ask you if this is software-defined storage if there is some crash with the computer - how can I recover the data? For example - Windows has to be reinstalled.
Where the configuration is saved? Currently I have 2 Lenovo M58p which I didn't see if there is a possibility to install RAID controller and they've got Win 7 Pro installed.

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Hey gang,
I just purchased a 4TB internal drive to add because my current 2TB was full.
I'm debating whether to just install the 4TB as a regular setup using another drive letter OR to use the Windows 8 feature called Storage Spaces. Are any of you using Storage Spaces, if so, please let me know your configuration...(its like the modern version of RAID).

If I understand correctly, this would allow me to have 3TB of Virtual Disk space set-up as 2-way mirror, HOWEVER, given that one of the drive is only 2TB, if my 4TB drive fails (and assuming it contains more than 2TB of data at that point), only 2TB will be "safely" stored by the mirror, because thats the max available on the smaller drive. Which makes me think now that my idea of using Storage Spaces may not be the best idea... as I'd actually be "losing" the additional 2TB that I paid for when I bought my 4TB drive. Perhaps a better solution is to install them as regular separate drives, and just back them up each externally...

Buying a drive almost requires buying 2 additional drives nowadays. One for onsite-backup, and another for offsite backup.

Thoughts from the Windows users?

Answer:Are you using Storage Spaces (Pools)?

Storage spaces isn't really the modern version of RAID, instead it's like an implementation of LVM which lots of storage devices and Linux/Unix has used for a long time.

I'm not using it though, it's quite inefficient.
Confused on Storage Spaces with Parity and free space

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Anyone tried playing around with this yet? So far I am truly impressed with it...

Starting with Win XP I always had a boot drive and a pair of 1Tb drives mirrored in Windows, not at the MB/Bios level. Performance was always acceptable and I never had any issues with missing data. The only "problem" was whenever the computer blue screened or otherwise had to be hard reset for some reason. The mirror would take *hours* to rebuild. I think it literally went bit by bit and had to verify the entire drive(s).

So now I have Win 8 and decided to rebuild the mirror with Storage Spaces. Totally different structure of storing files and verifying data integrity. It divides the storage space into "slabs" and can quickly compare them between the disks. I have a simple two-way mirror against the drives and when I simulate a failure/recovery scenario it verifies and rebuilds in 2 minutes.

You get a warning icon in the taskbar when something happens...the old style mirror never gave you anything showing something went wrong.

I also am trying it out on my Win 2012 server, but the controls for it are almost too complicated/convoluted. The dumbed down version for Win 8 is actually much better.
 

Answer:Windows 8 Storage Spaces

Its cause VSS and Shdow copies were a pos that was prone to breaking. I haven't had a chance to play with it
 

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I was performing a removal of an HDD using the storage spaces feature (because it had the yellow exclamation) and the computer then went into sleep/hibernate mode and when I noticed I started the computer back up and then it showed that the Storage Space was offline.

At the moment I am somewhat freaking out because I have all my video footage on there so I am hoping nothing is wrong. I have five "1 TB" drives hooked up using a Parity setup where according to the info says 'using 2.11 TB of 4.54 TB pool capacity' so I might be ok, but I am not sure.

The problem is that the drive I was trying to remove because it had an yellow exclamation point on it is now saying "Information Preparing for removal" which has been there for hours and my PC led light is blinking for hours as well. There was a point when a window popped out saying unable to remove HDD and when I clicked ok I closed all the windows but now that particular HDD simply shows "Preparing for removal" which has not changed since the issue started. When I now click on the Storage Spaces window it lags and seems out of place. To be honest I have no idea what is happening I can't click on anything and it looks bugged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to submit further information please let me know.

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I know there is a lot of hate around here for Win2012, and Storage spaces. I'm hoping that R2 might change some of that.

Microsoft announced R2 at TechEd today (not that we didn't expect it with the release of 8.1). They've expanded on the storage spaces with some new features:

Three way mirroring is one of the new features. It allows for additional redundancy in your storage spaces.

They also announced tiered storage. Now you can add different types of drives to your storage spaces and assign it to different taks. For example, you can add mechanical and SSD drives to the space, and adjust the SSDs to do caching.

Hopefully the storage spaces has matured a little, as well. I know some people around here had some problem with it.

R2 should be releasing along side of 8.1 this year.
 

Answer:Win2012 R2: Storage Spaces

God I hope they actually make it useful.
 

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Hello. I read somewhere in a Storage space you can attach drives with different sizes.. I got a pool made of 3 x 500 GB drives. Now i added a 3 TB drive to the pool. But when i try to moves files to the drive. The disk goes offline and under "disk managemet" the disk is offline cause its out of space. Is it cause it cant use the 3 tb drive with 3 x 500 ? in a pool ?

Update: I found the answer. The storage pool does not automatic rebalance the drives. Will this be added in the future ?

Answer:Windows Storage spaces

Take look at those tutorial:
Storage Pool - Delete in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Add or Remove Drives from Storage Pool in Window 8
Storage Spaces - Create a New Pool and Storage Space in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Delete a Storage Space in a Storage Pool in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Rename Storage Pool, Storage Space, and Drives
Storage Spaces Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

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Hi everyone. I'm having issues adding an additional drive to an existing Storage Space on my new Windows 8 setup. Its an external usb 3.0 hard drive, 2 tb western digital My Passport.
Ok, so anytime I go into Storage Spaces to add the drive to the pool, it gives me an error:
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Can't prepare drives
Close all applications that are accessing the drive, and then try again.

The system cannot find the drive specified (0x0000000F)
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I've searched everywhere and tried just about everything for a solution, but there isnt much out there in regard to this. =/
I also noticed that the drives details are always blank, however it shows up fine in My Computer as well as in my Computer Management setup.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

Answer:Storage Spaces - Cant Add Drive

It seems that the device driver is not compatible with Windows 8 Storage Space feature. You may contact WD support for detail information.Please remember to click ?Mark as Answer? on the post that helps you, and to click ?Unmark as Answer? if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. ?

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I have been playing with storage spaces, which is a software raid solution that is built-in to windows. What I first thought to be a very interesting and useful feature has been shown to be a buggy nightmare. I am simply amazed that this made it into RTM in this state. If anything, the bugs should have been worked out and Storage Spaces released in the first service pack for Windows 8.For an overview, Storage Spaces allows you to create Raid-0, Raid-1, Three way mirroring that requires 5 drives (Raid-6?), and Raid-5 software fault tolerance in Windows 8. There approach has some very strange and confusing flaws in my opinion.1. When a drive becomes full, it takes the drive offline rather than just saying the drive is full when you try to use it. If you try to bring it online, it states that you need to add two more drives if its a mirror or another drive if its a simple volume (spanned) volume. What if you do not have any drives laying around or can't afford new ones?You can get around this by simply changing the storage space to be larger than the actual physical space on the drives and then deleting some files in order to free up space. Why should we have to do this in the first place?2. It allows you to create virtual drives that are larger than the actual physical space associated with the storage pool. Why add this extra confusion? If I have two 60 GB drives and want to mirror them, don't let me make a 1 TB mirror. It just doesn't make sense and leads to ... Read more

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set up parity with 6 3TB drives (2.7 TB) and end up with it looking like this... I though windows storage spaces took only one disk for parity?

imgur: the simple image sharer

also tried multiple times same result

Answer:storage spaces parity right?

From what I understand, this is correct - however, the screenshot seems to indicate some of this storage space has already been used. Is that the case? Did you partition this space up previously before starting the creation of a parity space on the volume?

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Hi all,

Been trying to find an answer on this to no avail..

I am thinking of switching over to Win 8 to take advantage of the storage spaces feature it offers.

My question is tho, is the main OS drive able to be included in the pool ? Or is it only the extra drives you have attached ? Kinda seems stupid if you have a 1TB+ drive as the main OS just sitting there not able to be used in the pool...

Thx guys..

Answer:Storage spaces query...

No, the main OS partition cannot be a part of the pool. It's not stupid at all, because I ask you this. How could it be part of the pool when the OS has to already be installed in order to set it up?

You can partition your drive to create a second partition, and that partition can be a part of the pool.

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Merry Holidays to all and to all a good night!

Well, I recently experienced a personal disaster/tragedy yesterday, my main 500 gig hard drive fully died. As in, the disk is at the point where it will spin up, click, and then spin down. No chances of data recovery without a load of dollars.

So that brings me to Storage Spaces. Unfortunately, I was planning on buying a 3 TB hard drive (will now be from Western Digital as I've recollected my personal experiences with Seagate drives and ALL have resulted in failure, an external hard drive of a friend's died in the same manner as mine, and it was a Seagate drive) to start doing backups of vital statistics. I can live on from Windows and program files dying, but documents, music, pictures, and over 300 gigs of video is too tasking on my poor soul.

I'm also in the initial phases of designing my new puter case, which I believe will house at least 12 hard drives, all will be utilized by Storage Spaces in Windows 8. Questions I do have!

I get that it's like a RAID 1 and 10 in ways, but I need some further clarification. You can specify whether to save two or three copies of your data. This is where I get lost.

Say, if I have a 120 gig SSD that I do backups of as well as my current 585 gigs worth of video content as well as other user data files. And I have 12 three TB hard drives going in Storage Spaces. I make the pool size to be 36 TB's as I do not choose to be deceived (more like I can't fit in more drives and don't want to do ... Read more

Answer:Storage Spaces questions...

If you ever used usenet with binary files, there was a concept known as par files, or parity files. The idea was that you could generate x number of .par files, and then you could lose the same number of real files and recover all of them, regardless of which file was lost.

So, say you had parts 1-10 and 2 .par files. You could lose parts 3 and 7 and recover the complete file. Or it could be parts 1 and 5 and still, using the same 2 .par files recover the entire file. It was pretty neat really.

Storage spaces uses a similar concept. You can create "parity" spaces, and those spaces can recover a logical volume, even if parts of that logical volume, spread over several drives, are lost. Unlike RAID, you don't have to have exactly the same sized individual physical drives or partitions. It can work with a disparate number of disks. Even more interesting, is they don't even have to be the same kindsd of disks. They can be any combination of drives.. USB, SAS, SATA, Firewire.. it can create a logical drive across all of your available drives regardless of type.

There's a good article here:

Storage Spaces explained: a great feature, when it works | Ars Technica

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Those running Windows 8, do you use Storage Spaces feature? If so, what is your hard drive setup? How do you like it? Reason you are using it? Beneficial? Thanks

Answer:Storage Spaces - Users opinions?

I'm right now not using it at the moment but I've researched the bullocks out of it to give a relatively informed opinion.

Basically, it's real nice.

You can use different hard drive interfaces to combine into one storage pool, which you're able to do a parity or two or three way mirroring. From what I've been told, the parity is a good option to for ULTIMATE redundancy and protect against drive death. But, it appears it's slow as crap to do that, around I think 20-30 MBs/sec. You'd use that for data that doesn't change often, like videos. Two way mirroring is faster, usually around the hard drive's native speeds, and copies your data twice across the pool. This would be used for maybe documents or pictures, depends on how far you want to go.

There is also thin provisioning where you can virtually set a pool to five TBs, but only have 1 TB physically available. As you reach the physical capacity, Action Center will tell you to add more drives to the pool.

The reason I'll be doing it is because I'm a media whore basically. I'm planning on an initial six TB setup with a hard drive cage meant for a RAID as it as alarms to indicate hard drive fault, which Storage Spaces works with as well. If the system detects an impeding death, it will ring off an alarm on the cage. I also demand drive fault resistance as I had a drive die on me and I didn't set up a backup soon enough. Couldn't recover ANYTHING. With that setup, I believe I'll start out with a two way mirror, and then gro... Read more

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The drive was set to "Offline" in storage Spaces and nothing seems to work to get it back "Online"
Does anyone have experience with this?
Any help will be appreciated.

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I want to set up a drive with Raid 5 or parity. Rather than using a hardware raid card i decided to use the storage space option in win 10. My understanding of raid 5 is that you have the capacity of all the drives added together less one drive so if you have a 4 drive setup the available capacity will be equal to three drives. Three drive setup you have the capacity of two drives this indeed what i found when i use my four port 3ware raid cards. rather than buy an 8 port hardware raid card i decided to use Storage spaces with parity option in win to to build my raid pc. i added 6 4TB drives. The formatted capacity of the drives becomes 3.63TB so i reasoned that i should have an array of 18.15 TB and one parity drive. But no windows10 only gives me a 14.52 TB storage space and sets two drives aside as parity. Is this normal for software raid set ups? or is this a function of the win10 implementation. Another thing that seemed odd is that win 10 says i can increase the size of the array simply bey adding another drive to the pool. i thought if you did that the entire array would need re-initialisation with the resulting loss of all the data on the array. I cant seem to find any info on how to fine tune storage spaces on the web. Can some one help me out here, should i get third party raid storage software?

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I have Windows 8, my OS is on a separate drive and I have placed 8x2tb drives into storage spaces parity. I wanted to use dual parity. No option for dual parity came up and windows did not automatically build a dual parity, as far as I'm aware.

Storage Pool says using 10TB of 14.5TB
Drive Tools says 7.82TB free of 14.4TB
Properties says Used space 6.67 Free space 7.82

I'm interested to know if I'm already using Dual Parity or if I'm not how to get the option to use it? Ive done a great deal of searching on the net for an image of the option. Or concrete proof that someone else is using the option and have found none.

Answer:Storage Spaces Dual Parity

Most of what I read about dual storage speaks to Windows Server 2012.
Tip of the Day: Dual Parity Storage Spaces - Tip of the Day - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
2 of 3: Microsoft Storage Spaces: Configuration | Hardware Revolution
Windows 8 (8.1) Storage Spaces, anything new? - Ars Technica OpenForum
https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...85.nHJ4vi-n2Eo

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Im running my media pc with storage spaced but 1 of my 500 GB drives failed so time to replace so got a 3tb drive and added it to my pool then left to optimize but 10.8% later the new drive failed having 2 drives fail took the whole storage pool away leaving me without all my files, i posted of the buggered drive, i now have the replacement here but optimization wont start at all and i cannot remove either failed drive as i dont have the space so i need to add a new drive, so i added 3 drives 1.8tb total but i still cant remove or optimize, so im in a pickle and i dont like pickles...

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I have been running windows 8 since the 1st Developer preview and have loved every minute of, not had a single problem. When I upgraded the the final version of W8 I decided to use the storage spaces feature to pool my media drives.

And all of a sudden last week i was unable to vie my storage space, looking under the settings for the storage space. it says "Media Drive 1" 'Warning separated form pool; reset drive'.

I am am not able to access any of the data on the two drives. I have physically removed 1 drive and tried to access the data, I have installed the drives in another machine and still no luck.

I am wondering if there is any other way for me to access the data on the 2 drives that are in the pool.

Thanks for your help.

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Hello, please advice.

I found this new technology very convenient and decided to mirror an internal 1 Tb HDD with an external USB 1 Tb HDD using ReFS. When unplugged the external USB HDD and tried to get access to the files from another Windows 10 machine and it was recognized as a broken space at first, but then it got just mounted as normal and files where accessible. When plugged back to the Storage Space everything went back to normal... so I got to think this it is kind of a great "auto backup" with roaming capabilities?

I can't find any info on how tolerable this application would be for this technology, do you think is there any considerations I may be warned about?
 

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I'm hoping someone here might have experience with mirroring 2 drives in Windows 10. I'm reading How-to's but some of my basic questions remain unanswered.

I have an SSD (C) used for the OS and loading apps and a 2TB drive that holds for all my files, images and videos, etc.

I want to add a second 2TB drive and create a Storage Spaces 'Mirror' setup to offer redundancy in case the D drive fails. (I also have off-site of backups). From what I've read the mirrored drives will need to be formatted so I will have to backup and re-copy all the current data onto the Mirrored set.

But here's the question:

Will a single mirrored drive behave like a single drive if it's removed from the set and connected to another computer?

Does the file and folder structure of one of those mirrored drives offer access to the files if it's removed and accessed using a removable SATA dock on another computer?

Thanks for any help with this question.

Answer:Storage Spaces Mirror 2 Drives?

It's a bit pointless as a lot of space will be wasted and if one is infected so will the other. If you use disk imaging you can have lots of backup spanning a few months that is creating images not cloning

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I was trying to create using USB drives and despite trying different types of drives I kept getting the error above that no drives that work with storage spaces available... However when I google creating storage spaces it says that usb drives work.... How can this be fixed? Hoping I have posted in the correct forum... if not I apologize in advance...
Thanks
Mark

Answer:No drives that work with Storage spaces...

Some problems I've seen with External USB drives is they don't always get the same drive letter after being removed then attached again, could be Storage Spaces is one on of those programs. Have you tried using Disk Management to assign a specific letter to the drive? Might also be helpful to use the same USB port each time.

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Hello...

I've recently added a couple of drives to my existing Storage Pool which is made up of the following drive sizes:

2x4TB
4x3TB

The pool is set for parity.

The total pool capacity showing is 18.1TB and currently using 8.27TB however when I check the drive within Windows Explorer it reads:

Storage space (drive V) 2.76TB free of 8.26TB

Please note that I have optimized the pool.

Am I missing something here as I would assume that the 8.26TB would increase to what the total pool capacity is (18.1TB)?

Please note I can increase the "Available pool capacity" from 9.91TB to 18.1TB but I'm concerned that I'll lose all my data.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Answer:Expanding Windows Storage Spaces

Hi there, I know it's a bit of a late reply; though I've on several occasions increased space sizes and have never experienced any data loss. You simply click the "Change" link for your storage space "Drive V". Then in the "Storage Space Size (maximum)" field you increase this number to match your new higher capacity storage pool. You can even go higher like say 50TB; in case you want to add more storage to the pool later on.

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Hello everyone, I'm new to Windows Storage Spaces and have a few questions. In Windows 10 Pro, I have an enclosure/pool with 8 drives with a two way mirror storage space that has 1 column, and a 4 drive enclosure/pool with a parity storage space that has 3 columns. My questions are;

1. Can both of these spaces withstand only 1 drive failure, or is one better than the other?

2. If a drive fails on either of the pools will it begin to repair and assimilate the data onto the other drives automatically, or do I need to begin the repair process manually?

3. Once a repair process is done and a bad drive is removed at that point am I back to 1 drive fault tolerance again, even without adding another drive?

4. Does having 8 drives increase the resiliency or does it still allow for only 1 drive failure like if I were using only 2 drives?

5. What would happen to the 8 drive pool If I removed two drives at once, would any data be available or would the two may mirror storage space not even be visible?

I guess I'm just a little confused about the whole idea of columns particularly with my 8 drive pool two way mirror only having 1 column. I greatly appreciate any feedback to my questions, perhaps I'm not asking the right questions so feel free too inquire further if more information is needed. If answers to these specific questions are posted elsewhere please simply point me in the right direction.

Answer:Windows Storage Spaces Questions

Same as Expanding Windows Storage Spaces - Windows 10 Forums ?

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So, I've been testing out 1 6 month trial of server 2012 using a parity space to hold all my plex media because its a cheap and effective way to "like RAID" it up and combine drives with a failure option still on the table. Yes I'm aware it's not RAID, yes I'm aware it's not the best option out there, but for free and easy it takes the cake, and the performance is enough to keep up with a gigabit network atleast and it does fine for plex

My question is, is storage spaces parity option available on windows 10? I've done some googling and it sounds like it's all just copy pasted over from old pages and can't find an honest review thats later then 2013 that specifically states the testing was done on 10, closest I can find is an article showing server 2016 saying yea should work on 10 too

So, can anyone tell me real quick for sure if it will work or not? I dont have enough free drives to try it in my gamer rig and just want to confirm from someone before I go and buy a key
 

Answer:Win10 Storage Spaces Question

Only use storage spaces if you hate your data
 

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I recently had a 3TB hard drive fail on me, and I am trying to come up with a much better solution for storing my data so that I don't have to recover everything from CrashPlan again. My plan is to have two 3TB Hard drives connected in RAID 0 (Simple Space) so that I have 6TB of usable space, and then I would like to mirror that data over to an external 6TB drive. I want this all to appear as one drive within windows. Is this possible using Storage Spaces? Thank you so much!

Answer:Are nested storage spaces possible? (Like RAID 0+1)

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Hello,

I have two mirrored disks as D:\, and lately windows has been telling me D:\ is full though it's not. I suspect this is because there are some errors on one of the disks in the pool that is reporting imminent failure.

As it stands, very frequently I can't save any files to D:\ because the computer seems to think it's full.

I don't have the ability to purchase an identical drive for a couple of weeks and really need to get back to using my computer properly.

How can I break the mirror without data loss?

I set it up using storage spaces, and if I go that route to break the mirror, it says I will lose data. Is this true?

I found instructions saying to use Computer Management to break the mirror, but I didn't use CM to set up the mirroring and it won't give me that option.

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I want to set up a drive with Raid 5 or parity. Rather than using a hardware raid card i decided to use the storage space option in win 10. My understanding of raid 5 is that you have the capacity of all the drives added together less one drive so if you have a 4 drive setup the available capacity will be equal to three drives. Three drive setup you have the capacity of two drives this indeed what i found when i use my four port 3ware raid cards. rather than buy an 8 port hardware raid card i decided to use Storage spaces with parity option in win to to build my raid pc. i added 6 4TB drives. The formatted capacity of the drives becomes 3.63TB so i reasoned that i should have an array of 18.15 TB and one parity drive. But no windows10 only gives me a 14.52 TB storage space and sets two drives aside as parity. Is this normal for software raid set ups? or is this a function of the win10 implementation. Another thing that seemed odd is that win 10 says i can increase the size of the array simply bey adding another drive to the pool. i thought if you did that the entire array would need re-initialisation with the resulting loss of all the data on the array. I cant seem to find any info on how to fine tune storage spaces on the web. Can some one help me out here, should i get third party raid storage software?

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Hello,

I have two mirrored disks as D:\, and lately windows has been telling me D:\ is full though it's not. I suspect this is because there are some errors on one of the disks in the pool that is reporting imminent failure.

As it stands, very frequently I can't save any files to D:\ because the computer seems to think it's full.

I don't have the ability to purchase an identical drive for a couple of weeks and really need to get back to using my computer properly.

How can I break the mirror without data loss?

I set it up using storage spaces, and if I go that route to break the mirror, it says I will lose data. Is this true?

I found instructions saying to use Computer Management to break the mirror, but I didn't use CM to set up the mirroring and it won't give me that option.

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Im running my media pc with storage spaced but 1 of my 500 GB drives failed so time to replace so got a 3tb drive and added it to my pool then left to optimize but 10.8% later the new drive failed having 2 drives fail took the whole storage pool away leaving me without all my files, i posted of the buggered drive, i now have the replacement here but optimization wont start at all and i cannot remove either failed drive as i dont have the space so i need to add a new drive, so i added 3 drives 1.8tb total but i still cant remove or optimize, so im in a pickle and i dont like pickles...

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Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?

Answer:Can't remove storage spaces drive

Originally Posted by iridium123


Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?



Type storage spaces in the Search box, look for a panel that says "Select drives to create a storage pool", there may be a place on that one to Take offline.

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I was trying to create using USB drives and despite trying different types of drives I kept getting the error above that no drives that work with storage spaces available... However when I google creating storage spaces it says that usb drives work.... How can this be fixed? Hoping I have posted in the correct forum... if not I apologize in advance...
Thanks
Mark

Answer:No drives that work with Storage spaces...

Some problems I've seen with External USB drives is they don't always get the same drive letter after being removed then attached again, could be Storage Spaces is one on of those programs. Have you tried using Disk Management to assign a specific letter to the drive? Might also be helpful to use the same USB port each time.

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I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces.

Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS.

What is my best course of action?

Answer:Storage spaces - My OS drive failed.

Davoodoo said:

I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces. Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS. What is my best course of action?



Storage Spaces/Drive Pool makes independently checking each of the data hard-drives impossible? Quick-read via Google has me believing the software needed to view data folders & files resided on the now-defunct OS hard-drive, is that correct? And, there was no way to make a WinPE-like Storage Spaces/Drive Pool & Macrium Reflect usb boot stick or DVD boot, correct? Or, was there a way originally and such boot was not made?

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I recently had a 3TB hard drive fail on me, and I am trying to come up with a much better solution for storing my data so that I don't have to recover everything from CrashPlan again. My plan is to have two 3TB Hard drives connected in RAID 0 (Simple Space) so that I have 6TB of usable space, and then I would like to mirror that data over to an external 6TB drive. I want this all to appear as one drive within windows. Is this possible using Storage Spaces? Thank you so much!

Answer:Are nested storage spaces possible? (Like RAID 0+1)

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I upgraded from W8.1 to W10.
After the upgrade my mirrored volume was 'gone' (created with disk management). Fortunately I was able to restore the data on one of the disks.

I cannot manage to recreate a mirror on Windows 10.
I tried using disk management as well as Storage Spaces but I get errors when the formatting begins.

Even with new disks, all the same it does not seem to work. I can not figure out why...

I get: Cannot remove Storage Space (huh.. remove?? I am creating one!!).... Parameter is wrong: 0x00000057.

Could there be some history of the previous mirrored drive which is preventing me from creating a new one or should I just do a clean Windows 10 installation?

Answer:Error using storage spaces/mirror

eddyh said:

I upgraded from W8.1 to W10.
After the upgrade my mirrored volume was 'gone' (created with disk management). Fortunately I was able to restore the data on one of the disks.

I cannot manage to recreate a mirror on Windows 10.
I tried using disk management as well as Storage Spaces but I get errors when the formatting begins.

Even with new disks, all the same it does not seem to work. I can not figure out why...

I get: Cannot remove Storage Space (huh.. remove?? I am creating one!!).... Parameter is wrong: 0x00000057.

Could there be some history of the previous mirrored drive which is preventing me from creating a new one or should I just do a clean Windows 10 installation?



Try doing it with Macrium Reflect instead of the default mirroring, provides better backup and compresses more

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I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces.

Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS.

What is my best course of action?

Answer:Storage spaces - My OS drive failed.

Originally Posted by Davoodoo


I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces. Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS. What is my best course of action?



Storage Spaces/Drive Pool makes independently checking each of the data hard-drives impossible? Quick-read via Google has me believing the software needed to view data folders & files resided on the now-defunct OS hard-drive, is that correct? And, there was no way to make a WinPE-like Storage Spaces/Drive Pool & Macrium Reflect usb boot stick or DVD boot, correct? Or, was there a way originally and such boot was not made?

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I'm hoping someone here might have experience with mirroring 2 drives in Windows 10. I'm reading How-to's but some of my basic questions remain unanswered.

I have an SSD (C) used for the OS and loading apps and a 2TB drive that holds for all my files, images and videos, etc.

I want to add a second 2TB drive and create a Storage Spaces 'Mirror' setup to offer redundancy in case the D drive fails. (I also have off-site of backups). From what I've read the mirrored drives will need to be formatted so I will have to backup and re-copy all the current data onto the Mirrored set.

But here's the question:

Will a single mirrored drive behave like a single drive if it's removed from the set and connected to another computer?

Does the file and folder structure of one of those mirrored drives offer access to the files if it's removed and accessed using a removable SATA dock on another computer?

Thanks for any help with this question.

Answer:Storage Spaces Mirror 2 Drives?

It's a bit pointless as a lot of space will be wasted and if one is infected so will the other. If you use disk imaging you can have lots of backup spanning a few months that is creating images not cloning

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I am setting up a new home PC\Server and decided to use Win 8.1 since I needed to upgrade to at least Win 7 Professional to use Disk Mirroring. Now I find out Win 8.1 has Disk Mirroring (From Disk Management Console) and Storage Spaces.

My question is which one is better and faster. I just want to mirror two drives (RAID 1) to store my pictures so if one drive fails I have a copy. I'm not interested in expanding this or adding drives that Storage Spaces seems to support.

Thanks

Answer:Win 8.1 Drive Mirroring VS Storage Spaces-which is better

Basically, if you just want to stick with mirroring, just stay with RAID 1. You can also do Storage Spaces and set it up to basically act like RAID 1, but I can't tell you if one is faster or not. I'd imagine both are the same, that is of course unless you have a RAID card with a dedicated processor.

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Hello...

I've recently added a couple of drives to my existing Storage Pool which is made up of the following drive sizes:

2x4TB
4x3TB

The pool is set for parity.

The total pool capacity showing is 18.1TB and currently using 8.27TB however when I check the drive within Windows Explorer it reads:

Storage space (drive V) 2.76TB free of 8.26TB

Please note that I have optimized the pool.

Am I missing something here as I would assume that the 8.26TB would increase to what the total pool capacity is (18.1TB)?

Please note I can increase the "Available pool capacity" from 9.91TB to 18.1TB but I'm concerned that I'll lose all my data.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Hi. Can anyone help me? I am really concerned I may have lost the contents of the Storage Space I have created in Windows 8.

Having read an article by Woody Leonhard extolling the virtues of Storage Spaces and how it could take over from Windows Home Server,I began the transfer at the end of October. I started with 8 HDDs, most 1.5 or2Tb drives, but there were 2 @ 3Tb drives which I had been using elsewhere and which were already formatted as 2.72Tb. The transfer process was going well and I had got almost ? complete, with about 18Tb transferred on to the storage space based on a now grown pool of about 15 HDDs.

The Storage Space ? it was on a ?parity? basis- was ?all green?, although I was often prompted to increase the number of HDDs as the transfer progressed and all new HDDs had been successfully assimilated (Borg like!). The problem arose when I tried to add a new 3Tb Seagate HDD. It was only recognised as 2Tb and so I attached it to my main PC and formatted it via GPT and got 2.72Tb showing. I then put the HDD in the Win8 machine and in ?My Computer? it appeared as 2.72Tb. However, when I sought to add it to the Pool, the applet showed the HDD as being only 1.99Tb. Back in ?My Computer? it confirmed the HDD was 2.72. I thought it might just be a minor bug in the applet and clicked to add the HDD to the pool, but having done so, the overall size of the Storage Space only increased by 2Tb, not the 2.72 I expected. I immediately hit the? remove? button before anything... Read more

Answer:Help: Windows 8 Storage Spaces and 3Tb Drives

Sorry you are having problems with this. I was not running a Storage Spaces until you posted and then I decided to try it using 2 640 GB drives. Not many of us have 15 hard drives laying around.

None of us would want to be responsible for you loosing any data, so any suggestions should be vetted thoroughly before you take any action.

Considering the info you have given, I would try to add the last 3 TB drive and see if it can be incorporated, and don't worry about its size just yet. The Storage Spaces utility seems to format the drives, so being pre-formatted may not make a difference to it. Also, there may be some requirement by the utility to balance out the space for consistency. But I would guess right now, your primary goal is to remove the red notification on your space. Would you agree it is probably the result of the 2, 3 TB drives being shown as "disconnected"?

I will hope, that because the drives show as disconnected, the data was maintained on the remaining drives. Is there any way you can tell for sure?

So, some questions. of the 15 drives, how are they connected to your system?

Are you using a UEFI or Legacy install? My drives were configured as GPT by the Utility, but I run UEFI.

Now, my tests:

I had to test using a Mirror setup, since I only have two drives. You need at least 3 for parity. If I can find another drive, I might try that later.

But I created the pool, shut down the system and removed the drives. A reboot showed no... Read more

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When adding an initial drive to a storage pool I get the error "incorrect function"
System: Proliant ML110 G4, Windows 8 64-Bit, 4GB Ram
I have a 160GB drive installed on the motherboard's controller which hosts the OS
I've installed a single 2TB drive on a 2 Port PCI Express Internal SATA II Controller Card (JMB36x).
As soon as I create a pool using the 2TB drive I get the error "Incorrect Function" and the drive becomes RAW.
The drive id's are unique.
It's worth pointing out that the system without the new controller can only support 2TB max of SATA drives, but this is bypassed by the controller card I added?
Help is appreciated.

Get-PhysicalDisk | format-list FriendlyName, UniqueId, ObjectId, BusType

FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk0
UniqueId : 2039374232333633
ObjectId : {af665d5a-f225-11e2-be77-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : RAID

FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk1
UniqueId : IDE\DiskST3160812AS_______________________________3.AJL_\5&3dc7918&0&0.0.0:risa
ObjectId : {af665d5b-f225-11e2-be77-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : ATA
I'm also worried that the 2TB drive is showing up as RAID not SATA on the controller.

Answer:Storage Spaces can't add drive to pool.

Hm, this is the reverse of a problem that happened a few days ago, that guy found a solution that may relate to this - I'll try to find him and have him take a look at this thread. brb! Welcome to Windows 8 Forums btw.

OK I sent the guy a link to this post, hopefully he can give you something to try. I'm not familiar with using Storage Spaces that much, there are a few in here who are.

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I have an issue where windows keeps telling me I don't have enough space to download some files. In explorer it is showing nearly 50% free space on drive D. However in storage spaces (this is a 2 way mirror pool with 3 drives) this is showing nearly full. I have optimized to see if this would
correct but the issue still persists.
Can anyone help with a suggestion please?

Answer:Windows 10 storage spaces issue

I had to look that up...LOL. I see that windows 10 has it own built in software RAID....Looks pretty cool and simple.

Can you post the entire windows for each....need to see what it all is showing.

Have you tried this: Microsoft finally fixes Storage Spaces, adds rebalancing command!
Furthermore; have you tried the old way as mentioned in the article: or hot-remove drives from two/three way mirrors and have them reintroduced

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Hi everyone, I've been using storage space for around a year with pool and raid functionality and I just realized the numbers don't add up... I have 7x 2TB all parts of a single pool with parity. Now here's the numbers:

Physical space: 14tb
Storage Space size (user set): 12tb
Used Storage Space size (according to windows explorer): ~6tb
Used Storage Space size (according to storage spaces): ~9tb
Individual drive used % (according to storage spaces): ~75% each

Storage spaces tells me to add a drive, low capacity... So I know how normal RAID5 works and it really shouldn't use 50% of the total used space as shown by the numbers above (6tb + 3tb assumed to be parity = 9tb). Also, if I need to add another drive, this means I'm almost full at 6tb/14tb?! This is worst than MIRROR RAID...

Am I reading it wrong?

Answer:Storage Spaces Capacity (RAID5)

Storage Spaces is not RAID5.

It is more akin to the old PAR archive system they used to use for transferring binaries over usenet. You can also over-commit. That is, you can define more disk space than you actually have, and then just add more drives as you increase space.

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Hi all,
I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me after a seriously royal screw up on my part.
I've got a large storage space of 15 2tb drives in a parity configuration. Tonight, I only had 12 drives and then I went ahead and added 3 more. The problem here however is that when I went to change the size of the pool in the GUI, it kept coming up with
"Invalid size" even if I went up by less than 1tb. So, I just figured the GUI was broken and so I decided to do it in powershell instead. Here is what I typed:
Resize-VirtualDisk -FriendlyName "Bluray" -Size 18.2TB
That seemed to work as it didn't throw up any errors, and storage spaces was now showing that I had an 18.2TB pool. Windows explorer however was still showing the old pool size (15.6TB I think) and so finally I decided to restart
windows....
After restarting however, I noticed that the entire pool had gone! The drive letter was still there but when I clicked on it, it said that I needed to format it. The storage spaces itself however is still showing as healthy.
Please please please please please tell me that I haven't lost 14TB worth of data?? Is there any hope of getting this back at all?
I will be eternally grateful if anyone can help.
Thank you!

Answer:Storage Spaces RAW after changing size

I think what might have happened is that you hit the limitation of how big an NTFS volume can be when using the default cluster size (around 16TB).  You would need to use a larger cluster size to be able to have a bigger volume.  But that doesn't
help you in the here-and-now.
The results from Get-Virtualdisk actually do point to a problem with NTFS.  The virtualdisk shows healthy, but it doesn't really care that the file system inside it isn't working. It only cares that its own metadata is consistent. 

We can try shrinking the partition down to under the limitation.  On of my coworkers answered a question like this in an older post.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/29e112c2-77ed-4671-af25-d9263ad9b8d6 

If you aren't comfortable doing this, or can't figure out which partition to resize, do a 'Get-partition' and post it here.  I'll see if I can figure out which one is the troublemaker.Robert Mitchell Senior Support Escalation Engineer Microsoft Corp.

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Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?

Answer:Can't remove storage spaces drive

iridium123 said:

Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?



Type storage spaces in the Search box, look for a panel that says "Select drives to create a storage pool", there may be a place on that one to Take offline.

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Hi
The idea of creating a large redundant storage pool seems like a good idea (I can finally get rid of FreeNAS box), but before I do that I have couple of simple question

1) Can I move a pool created on one windows 8 machine to another windows 8 machine?

2) what happens if disk where my OS resides crashes or I feel like re-installing windows 8 on a different set of hardware, will I be risking losing all my data if OS or hardware changes force me to re-install windows 8?

Thanks
Sonisame

Answer:Storage Spaces-- Is a pool movable?

Originally Posted by sonisame


Hi
The idea of creating a large redundant storage pool seems like a good idea (I can finally get rid of FreeNAS box), but before I do that I have couple of simple question

1) Can I move a pool created on one windows 8 machine to another windows 8 machine?



Yes.






2) what happens if disk where my OS resides crashes or I feel like re-installing windows 8 on a different set of hardware, will I be risking losing all my data if OS or hardware changes force me to re-install windows 8?

Thanks
Sonisame



If the storage pool is independent of the OS disk it shouldn't matter if you need to reinstall. Storage pools themselves offer resiliency through striping and mirroring, if enabled.

You might want to take a read through this for more information.

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Hi all.
I'm trying to use powershell to create a complex storage space on my 4x6TB HD.
I want to make the first 4TB of each HD in simple pool and the remaining space 2TB with Mirror 2way.
4x4TB Simple
4x2TB Mirror 2Way
This way should be similar to the max speed of Raid0 striped on the first faster TB and the last slower TB with mirror.
I tried with the GUI and it works, but you can't select the columns, so the speed in Simple was low, columns=1...
Making it with Powershell instead it put the correct columns=4.

So I did:

Code:
$Disks = (Get-PhysicalDisk -CanPool $True)

New-StoragePool -FriendlyName 4xStripe -PhysicalDisks $Disks -ResiliencySettingNameDefault simple -StorageSubsystemFriendlyName "Windows Storage*" |New-VirtualDisk -FriendlyName "UserData" -Size 16TB -ProvisioningType Thin |Initialize-Disk -PassThru |New-Partition -AssignDriveLetter -UseMaximumSize |Format-Volume

This works as expected, but then I don't know how to add the Mirror pool...

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I'm trying to create a storage pool for parity with 4 3TB drives and use 3TB of a 4TB drive that also has my OS.
When I go to create the pool the 4 3TB drives show up but the unallocated space on the 4TB with my OS doesn't show up.

I have done some research and heard that this might be possible but it seems to be a case-by-case situation.

I'm running Windows 10 Home.

Answer:Is it possible to use part of hard drive with storage spaces?

Hi there

@donldmn

Don't include the OS as part of a Storage space.

Ideally use an SSD for the OS (cheap enough for a 120GB one -- plenty of space for programs and apps while keeping your whole Disk pool for the storage space.

You "Might be" better off with that configuration of HDD's to think about using RAID (either software or better hardware with a reasonably cheap hardware RAID controller -- simply insert RAID card into a slot and connect HDD's to the controller).

If you use a RAID controller - and if it allows 5 connections then you can also connect the SSD to it -- but create the SSD as a single logical drive in RAID 0 config. I would prefer though with an SSD to connect that directly to the mobo and just connect the other HDD's to the RAID controller.

Cheers
jimbo

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Hello,

Windows 8:

I have 4 drives assigned to a raid1 and a raid0 storage space. A power plug broke off of one of the drives. I ordered an exact replacement hdd pcb for that drive. It spins up, bios sees it, I'm 100% sure no damage was done to the data as the drive was off when the power plug was broken. windows sees it but storage spaces thinks it is a new drive. So spaces is still showing the raid0 offline and raid1 in lowered resiliency mode. I am assuming something on the logic board, maybe hdd serial# or guid or something is now different for the repaired drive.

Does anyone know in powershell if there is a way to tell storage spaces that the repaired drive is in fact the one that it thinks is offline?

Here is a powershell Get-PhysicalDisk:

FriendlyName CanPool OperationalStatus HealthStatus Usage Size
------------ ------- ----------------- ------------ ----- ----
SAMSUNG HD204UI ... False Lost Communication Warning Auto-Select 1.82 TB
SAMSUNG HD204UI ... False OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk3 False OK Healthy Auto-Select 55.9 GB
PhysicalDisk1 True OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
HGST HDS5C4040AL...... Read more

Answer:Storage spaces and repaired drive? (PCB Replaced)

It is a new drive. Because you replaced the Daughter Board on the drive.

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Hello everyone,

I have a windows 8 machine that acts as a media storage computer on my home network. It has 8 storage drives varying in size from 1 to 4 TB. I have been using Drive Bender to create pools, however am interested in switching to Storage Spaces.

Currently with Drive Bender I have created several pools for storage of different media (movies, TV shows, Audio, Photos). Each pool has several drives within it. There is no replication of the files within the pools. They are configured as JBOD with 1 mount point.

Since I have no replication of files I need to be able to get files of of a drive if something happens with the program that manages the space. Drive Bender does a good job of this and I never feel like I will lose a file if Drive Bender breaks.

1) Can I get files off of a drive if Storage Spaces "breaks" and how would I do this?

2) Drivepool (not Drive Bender) has several options that allow management of how data is written to the pool of drives (such as filling 1 drive then moving to the next keeping files together). Is this an option with Storage Space?

Thanks for any help you can provide me.

-S

Answer:Storage Spaces vs Drive Bender vs Drivepool

No one has any ideas?

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I've searched but not found an direct answer. Pls excuse if I have missed something.

I'm running a Storage Spaces on a Win 8.1 machine with a few partitions. I just discovered that my large partition couldn't be enlarged over 16TB due to my 4kb cluster size so I created a new, smaller, partition on the drive capacity that I had left with
64kb cluster size. Fine so far. I then started moving files to the new partition thinking that I could somehow reclaim the unused space from the old, large, partition and then "transfer" it to my new, smaller partition. But now I'm stuck as I can't
find a way to reclaim this unused space. Help!
I've tried running the "Defragment and Optimize Drives" tool but no change.
What am I doing wrong?

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Answer:Storage spaces not writing data equally

Personally I would do matching drives on a NAS in RAID format. Storage Spaces is still considered a beta product at this time. So use at your own risk.

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Hi there,

I was about to purchase a few extra drives for a Storage Spaces setup, using parity. Will Windows 8.1 include support for formatting non-boot drives to ReFS? I think I'll hold off on my mass file-migration until I learn this.

Also, were the data re-balancing issues solved in 8.1, or are they an inherent feature with how Microsoft has decided to architect Storage Spaces?
 

Answer:Windows 8.1 - ReFS support w/storage spaces?

From what I've read, you can format only a storage space drive array with ReFS, a single lonely drive will not format to ReFS (someone said something about the recovery console would allow this though, after which 8.1 will read/write it.) I don't think the rebalancing has been addressed, MS' advice is to add drives in multiples of the original configuration, so if you have 3x1TB Parity, add 3x1TB more for 6x1TB total, but don't add say 2x1TB resulting in 5x1TB total. If you want to play around with it, you can make .VHD files and make them into Storage Space arrays, and test if it works as you expect (some people don't know/think of this.) My personal advice, is not to depend on Storage Space Parity (or any other RAID5) if your data is important, but rather to have two separate drives and backup with something like robocopy. Most likely it will work, but you will be sorry if it does not and you have no other backup.
 

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Hello All
I had a drive fail in my Storage Spaces. Unfortunately i have not been able to get this resolved or remove the failed drive.
The fail drive when its connected to the computer clicks, is unreadable, and causes storage spaces in the control panel to crash and not open. So i am trying to remove the bad drive from the simple virtual disk but i just cant. The drive is currently disconnected and i get the following issues in power shell:
PS C:\Windows\system32> get-virtualdisk
FriendlyName ResiliencySettingName OperationalStatus HealthStatus IsManualAttach Size
------------ --------------------- ----------------- ------------ -------------- ----
ServerSS Simple Detached Unhealthy False 13.6 TB
PS C:\Windows\system32> get-physicaldisk
FriendlyName SerialNumber CanPool OperationalStatus HealthStatus Usage Size
------------ ------------ ------- ----------------- ------------ ----- ----
TOSHIBA MD04ACA500 25Q9K1T4FS9A False OK Healthy Auto-Select 4.55 TB
SAMSUNG HD204UI S2HGJ90Z902255 False OK Healthy Auto-Select 1.82 TB
SanDisk Ultra II 480GB 154486411696 False OK Healthy Auto-Select 447.13 GB
ST33000651AS 9XK09N6N ... Read more

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Hi there

I can't seem to decide what's the best way option connecting a 2 Bay HDD external enclosure to a laptop for maximum performance.

The HDD enclosure can connect via e-sata or a USB 3 connection -- I have to use the USB 3 connection as there's no e-sata external connection on the laptop. These enclosures only need 1 USB / e-sata connector as the hardware in the computer has the multi-port detection in it (been standard for ages these days).

The HDD enclosure has a built in switchable option - Run as RAID 0, Run as RAID 1, Run as JBOD (Just a bunch of Disks i.e it will show the whole thing as a single HDD) or as discrete disks -- i.e it will show 2 separate disks.

Now I want to use storage spaces so I'm tempted to use the "run as separate disks" option -- Windows will then see 2 HDD's which I can create into a storage space.

On these multi-bay relatively cheap HDD enclosures my impression is that the built in RAID controllers are far inferior to using Software -- on Linux that's certainly true - the mdadm kernel RAID works far superiorly to running these enclosures using built in RAID.

Any idea as to using these types of HDD's with Storage spaces vs the built in hardware RAID.

Cheers
jimbo

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Hi, I got this error message on 1 of my drives (see photo below) within 'Manage Storage Spaces'.  For the life of me, I can't figure out where to go to access the Physical Drives Section to see what the warning message is all about.  Besides that, what do you think the problem might be?  Any advice would be great! Cheers,-Richard 

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Hi All,

1.So I had windows 8.1 with storages spaces working fine
2.removed my windows 8.1 HD and put in a new HD installing windows 10
3.On windows 10 storage spaces is great and working fine
4. I noticed that I forgot to back up something on my windows 8.1 so I swapped the win8 HD back in and booted
5. Windows 8 does not see the storage space (which I fine because I didnt need to use it then)
6. Swapped back the windows 10. storage spaces is missing!!

7. Reinstalled windows 10 storage space is missing!
I can find the drives in device manager (its attached to a PERCH310 card but setup as JBOD)
But disk manager doesnt see it at all and neither does Storage pools.

Am screwed here? its a 4 array with 1 parity (2tb drives each)

Thanks!

Answer:Windows 10 to 8.1 back to 10 now missing storage spaces

Are you using a RAID setup? If so which version? Could be the answer to your question is Yes. I've not seen RAID appreciating changes in its makeup unless replacing a failed drive.

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Hi there

Beware if you CREATE storage spaces under W10 and roll back to W8.1 -- you'll get configuration error.

DO NOT RESET the storage spaces as you'll lose the data. I think the file structures have changed in W10.

What to do --Re-install W10 again and then SAVE the data. The storage spaces will be fine on a re-install of W10 - you'll need to do a NEW install so install on another HDD or backup your W8.1 / W8 system before re-installing W10.

Hope this saves people anxiety.

I like Storage spaces - but they should be compatible across releases in case you do have to roll back an OS.

You only need to do this if you created the storage spaces on W10. If you created them on W8/W8.1 and then installed W10 everything is fine.

Cheers
jimbo

Answer:Storage Spaces - Beware if rolling back to W8.1 from W10

Thanks there "Big Guys." . . . Just for you.

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On my personal file server PC, I have two 1TB drives that are configured in Windows Storage Spaces to be I'm assuming a RAID1 array. Basically my two 1TB drives show up as one 1TB drive. Eventually I am going to replace Windows 10 with Server 2016 (which is on a separate SSD) and I wanted to make sure I didn't corrupt the array, or whatever it is with Storage Spaces, when I reinstall Window. I thought about just unplugging the drives while I reinstall, but I wasn't sure if this will still cause issues. So do I need to do anything to prevent issues, or can I reinstall Windows without worry. If I do need to do something: backup data; clear the Storage Space setup and anything else?

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I have a 4x 2TB drive storage pool setup with storage spaces under parity mostly used for movies/tv shows. I decided to buy 2 more 4TB drives and add them, but I only have space for 1 more at the moment (only 6 SATA connectors on my MB). After adding it (and appearing successful), it attempted to rebalance but eventually stopped changing the %complete and Storage Spaces eventually crashed. I tried again with my second drive, and the same problem. If I do "get-storagejob" in Powershell, every time i boot up it has 3 jobs (screenshot in linked Imgur album) and 2/3 of them always fail at 42%.
I've tried removing both of the drives that failed to add (crashes), I've tried cancelling the rebalancing (crashes), and many other things but Storage Spaces continues to crash as soon as those 2 jobs reach 42% or I do anything to change something.
Data on the drive appears accessible, but any attempt to view results in eternally spinning progress bars (sometimes a second or two of video before sputtering out). I'm usually pretty good with Google and can solve my own problems but this has had me spinning my wheels for days.
Computer:
OS - Windows 10 Pro
CPU - i7 6700
MB - Z170A PC MATE
Any other details should be in the CPU-Z pastebin if it helps.
http://imgur.com/a/f2ObI
http://pastebin.com/T0SMLrqh

Answer:Storage Spaces issues adding drive

You might try running the powershell command "Update-StoragePool -FriendlyName "[NameOfYourStoragePool]" without first and last quotes. Make sure you run powershell as Admin.

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I have a 4x 2TB drive storage pool setup with storage spaces under parity mostly used for movies/tv shows. I decided to buy 2 more 4TB drives and add them, but I only have space for 1 more at the moment (only 6 SATA connectors on my MB). After adding it (and appearing successful), it attempted to rebalance but eventually stopped changing the %complete and Storage Spaces eventually crashed. I tried again with my second drive, and the same problem. If I do "get-storagejob" in Powershell, every time i boot up it has 3 jobs (screenshot in linked Imgur album) and 2/3 of them always fail at 42%.
I've tried removing both of the drives that failed to add (crashes), I've tried cancelling the rebalancing (crashes), and many other things but Storage Spaces continues to crash as soon as those 2 jobs reach 42% or I do anything to change something.
Data on the drive appears accessible, but any attempt to view results in eternally spinning progress bars (sometimes a second or two of video before sputtering out). I'm usually pretty good with Google and can solve my own problems but this has had me spinning my wheels for days.
Computer:
OS - Windows 10 Pro
CPU - i7 6700
MB - Z170A PC MATE
Any other details should be in the CPU-Z pastebin if it helps.
http://imgur.com/a/f2ObI
http://pastebin.com/T0SMLrqh

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Hi

I have a simple three disk parity RAID - calles Storage Space - W: drive.
3 x 1.36Gb gives me about 2.72Gb storage plus the parity bits.

This storage space has about 1.47Gb of data leaving some 1.24Gb free.

Storage Space Static is telling me my disks are 88% full and to add three extra drives

See screendump. What am I missing or not understanding here ?


How do I rectify this situation please ?

Thanks

Muppet the Wonder Dog

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On my personal file server PC, I have two 1TB drives that are configured in Windows Storage Spaces to be I'm assuming a RAID1 array. Basically my two 1TB drives show up as one 1TB drive. Eventually I am going to replace Windows 10 with Server 2016 (which is on a separate SSD) and I wanted to make sure I didn't corrupt the array, or whatever it is with Storage Spaces, when I reinstall Window. I thought about just unplugging the drives while I reinstall, but I wasn't sure if this will still cause issues. So do I need to do anything to prevent issues, or can I reinstall Windows without worry. If I do need to do something: backup data; clear the Storage Space setup and anything else?

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Hi there

Beware if you CREATE storage spaces under W10 and roll back to W8.1 -- you'll get configuration error.

DO NOT RESET the storage spaces as you'll lose the data. I think the file structures have changed in W10.

What to do --Re-install W10 again and then SAVE the data. The storage spaces will be fine on a re-install of W10 - you'll need to do a NEW install so install on another HDD or backup your W8.1 / W8 system before re-installing W10.

Hope this saves people anxiety.

I like Storage spaces - but they should be compatible across releases in case you do have to roll back an OS.

You only need to do this if you created the storage spaces on W10. If you created them on W8/W8.1 and then installed W10 everything is fine.

Cheers
jimbo

Answer:Storage Spaces - Beware if rolling back to W8.1 from W10

Thanks there "Big Guys." . . . Just for you.

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Hi there

Beware if you CREATE storage spaces under W10 and roll back to W8.1 -- you'll get configuration error.

DO NOT RESET the storage spaces as you'll lose the data. I think the file structures have changed in W10.

What to do --Re-install W10 again and then SAVE the data. The storage spaces will be fine on a re-install of W10 - you'll need to do a NEW install so install on another HDD or backup your W8.1 / W8 system before re-installing W10.

Hope this saves people anxiety.

I like Storage spaces - but they should be compatible across releases in case you do have to roll back an OS.

You only need to do this if you created the storage spaces on W10. If you created them on W8/W8.1 and then installed W10 everything is fine.

Cheers
jimbo

Answer:Storage Spaces - Beware if rolling back to W8.1 from W10

Thanks there "Big Guys." . . . Just for you.

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Hi there

Getting fed up with loads of different Physical HDD's I've decided to use the Storage Spaces facility and create a 9TB storage spacel.

Previously I used simple spanning but pooling volumes into a storage space seems to be the way to go now.

Since I've already archived my main music files I can get the fastest efficiency by not using mirroring or parity - with IMO the acceptable risk that I can lose some data if an HDD fails -- in my experience this doesn't happen very often so with decent backup I think the risk is worth while.

I'm not running a commercial server so restoring data as fast as possible won't be a priority. I always have regular backups so recovery isn't an issue even if it could take time.

What I'm interested in is does the concept work -- have people used the storage space concept without getting into lots of problems. I certainly like the idea of not having to bother physically where data is located - I can then organise data decently and also not be worried if a disk becomes full for example when creating a music library.

Anybody experienced in using this stuff -- seems a great way to use lots of older HDD's aggregating them into a large data space than have several X 320 GB discrete drives.

My OS in on a separate SSD so I won't lose performance by doing this from what I can see.

Cheers
jimbo

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How can I reload the Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller? Something went haywire with my G780...it didn't recognize an SD card in the slot, and the same for a SATA drive via USB. Then, after I tried to find/load a new driver, I made the unfortunate mistake of deleting the problem driver (it was marked YELLOW) thinking it would reappear cleanly when I rebooted. Not so. Help!

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I recently purchases a ASUS ROG with an SSD and HDD. I am trying to create a storage space with a resiliency of Two-Way Mirror, but the "create storage space" button is greyed out unless I choose the simple resiliency. The OS is on the SSD drive. Any suggestions as to why I am not able to create the two way mirror? Any suggestions appreciated, and thanks in advance.
 

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Answer:Storage Spaces Unable To Create Two-Way Mirror

I found this
http://www.howtogeek.com/109380/how-to-use-windows-8s-storage-spaces-to-mirror-combine-drives/
but I don't know about using different technology drives. I would anticipate that if both ae the same technology there would be little or no problem setting up the two-way mirror.
 
Dick

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Hi

I have a simple three disk parity RAID - calles Storage Space - W: drive.
3 x 1.36Gb gives me about 2.72Gb storage plus the parity bits.

This storage space has about 1.47Gb of data leaving some 1.24Gb free.

Storage Space Static is telling me my disks are 88% full and to add three extra drives

See screendump. What am I missing or not understanding here ?


How do I rectify this situation please ?

Thanks

Muppet the Wonder Dog

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I have a storage space consisted of 3 X 2 TB hd drives in parity mode. I used the drives writing 3,06 TB of files, that means I didn't used the whole available disc space (actually 2 X 1,81 TB available and 1 X 1,81 TB as parity). I added a new 2 TB drive to expand the array. But windows calls me to add 3 drives not 1 (as I did) and keeps saying I' m using 4,6 TB. I double checked the capacity of my files and it's indeed 3,6 not 4,6 TB.
I don't understand what happened. Are my files secure? Is there a way to check the health of storage space?

That's the actual screenshot:

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I'm trying to create a storage pool for parity with 4 3TB drives and use 3TB of a 4TB drive that also has my OS.
When I go to create the pool the 4 3TB drives show up but the unallocated space on the 4TB with my OS doesn't show up.

I have done some research and heard that this might be possible but it seems to be a case-by-case situation.

I'm running Windows 10 Home.

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I believe I lost my boot drive. My computer hangs when it can't find SATA4 in BIOS. I tried switching cables, but it did not help. I have 4 drives in a storage spaces array and a single boot drive. The computer is older, so I am thinking about pulling the 4 drive array and putting it in a mediasonic 4 bay box. I would attach it via usb to a windows 8 laptop. I only use the array for media storage.

Will the laptop see the array correctly in the usb box?
Thanks

Answer:Boot Drive Failure with storage spaces array

So I went ahead and bought the mediasonic 4 bay box. I put in the 4 drives from the array and they showed up without any problems on my windows 8 laptop. They are linked by USB, but still show up as a regular hard drive.

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