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Does a slightly dry thermal paste loose quality?

Question: Does a slightly dry thermal paste loose quality?

I wonder if leaving a CPU with its thermal paste open for a few hours will loose some of its quality. In which case I'll have to go buy some new paste. This is a fresh thermal paste I spread on a CPU replace, the only paste I had left, but had to reopen for a readjustment. Thank you.

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Answer: Does a slightly dry thermal paste loose quality?

As long as it will still spread easily, it should be fine. It is when it dries up and is a puddy that will not bond (meaning sticks to everything) is when it needs to be replaced.

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Hi, im just in the process of building my brothers computer. I bought some artci silver thermal paste and planned on using it, but reading the AMD instructon booklet that came with the AM2 3700+ X2, it says that the heatsink provided already has thermal paste applied to it, and it does. i was wondering if that is enough, and that i should just slap it on the processor with that stuff on, or should i add teh artic silever (do you put it on the processor surface) as well and have them both? I heard that too much is just as bad as too little, so what should i do?
 

Answer:Applying thermal paste to heatsink 'pre-loaded' with Thermal Paste?

All I've ever run in my computers are AMD chips. The pre applied thermal paste is enough. You don't need to add any more. I overclock my chips and I haven't run into any problems as of yet with overheating.
 

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Hi all, I'm a little puzzeled. I thought GPU's usually had thermal pads on laptops. Is it ok to apply thermal paste to the GPU on the G710 model (i3 model); or should I certainly be using a thermal pad? I'm applying Arctic Cooling MX4 Thermal Paste to the CPU you see as I'm sure this will do better than the default applied. Thanks





Thanks for any help in advance, Pete









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Answer:G710 Thermal Paste on GPU? I thought thermal paste on GPU's on laptops was a no no?

hi pete_agreatguy,
 
Thanks for Posting!
 
     Yes, Thermal paste are known to conduct more heat that the pad / tape. so less heat,
The only advantage of the thermal pad are avoiding accidental cunduction using conductive paste and also easier to apply.
   
   The one you got is a non coductive paste and very easy to apply so, I bet that really is condsidered an upgrade.

 
Cheers!
Solid Cruver
 
   





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I gone to service center to replace thermal paste and thermal strip but after that my laptop still have high temperature (over 70 ° C) on GPU and chipset under no load. What can I do with this?

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Have scouted around in the forums & don't see this topic, so here goes. Would appreciate some guidance on the optimal placement for thermal pads & thermal paste on an AMD FirePro M6100 graphics card in a Precision m6600. I am upgrading the stock FirePro M8900 to the M6100. The cards are similiar, but not identical. I know I need to put thermal paste on the GPU itself, so I've secured some IC Diamond 7 Carat to do just that. However, the VRAM's & other raised surfaces on the card most likely need thermal pads or paste & the vendor just put a big light blue/green thermal pad in w/ the card & doesn't have any guides on where it is to be put, exactly. I have plenty of pad material to use from the M8900 & heatsink currently in the notebook, as well, & have re-purposed many of them, but temp still spikes to 90 degrees & climbing when it's pushed w/ high-end graphics in various applications, so I'm looking to stop that. Greatly appreciate any pointers you can provide. Have contacted AMD re: this & they said I need to ping Dell. Have reached out on several forums as well & still no go. Thanks again!

Answer:Precision m6600, AMD ATI FirePro M6100 FireGL graphics card installation, thermal pads and thermal paste

Hi there... I know the post is old but would like to share my experience on the topic. I have the M6600 with 2820QM processor and AMD M6100. When adding thermal pads over the GPU there is a potential for the GPU card to bend so I did not risk it - I simply added thermal paste. The GPU sits perfectly flush on the heatsink body, the supporting hardware modules around the card also sits flush on the segments within heatsink body. My unit is happy at 47 celsius when idling, and will not go over 85 celsius when pushed to the limit. I suggest that you keep it simple and and just strip the pads out.

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This is all about the chronic heat problem on HP consumer-grade laptops. I need an opinion on thermal paste vs. thermal pad on a dv5-1002nr, before I start tearing the whole thing down. Prior to that, I had no problems - I was running VM's, multiple browsers with several tabs as well as streaming music/video, with temps ranging from 40-85*C on Power Saving Mode (maxes out to 54-72 when used in conjuntion w/a custom laptop cooler; and set to High Performance Mode). I haven't really opened the unit for cleaning since purchasing it back on 2008, save for a whiff of CO2 spray at them vents for those dust bunnies. But this time, it seems that the average temperature of my unit has risen to a steady 60-82*C, even on PS mode. Having not visually checked the CPU as well as the cooling elements - esp. thermal pad (?), maybe it's time to tear the laptop apart for inspection. My questions:

- Does the AMD core use a thermal pad, or a paste?
- If it uses a thermal pad, can I use thermal paste instead?
- Any (good or bad) consequences in using a paste or pad, for that matter?

*AFAIK thermal pads shrink from heat over time; same thing with thermal pastes that dry over time. All translate to head, as I have seen on desktops. But for laptops.....not seen yet
 

Answer:Needs opinion on thermal paste vs. thermal pad before I tear my dv5-1002nr!

I think you will see in this forum that BOTH are recommended ......

I prefer paste - but then I only make a couple of machines .....

you may find that the cleanup does the Job without having to remove the heatsink - and its only a couple of years old at most.
 

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This is probably an extremely nit-picky post but I was wondering if any other P50 owners are experiencing any "play" or wiggle room with their 3.5mm headphone jack when a headset is plugged in. I notice on mine that when I plug in my headphones, the connection itself is solid however, it seems that the outer casing of the jack between the outerbody of the laptop have space in between causing the casing to move in between.  So far I haven't seen any issue with the functionality of the jack itself but I'm a little concern that the jack might be loose somewhere inside which might cause it to fail prematurely.

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Hi.I would like to replace my thermal paste and thermal pads and I need to know what size(thicknes etc.) does exatly Lenovo uses for y50-70 thermal pads so i can buy the right ones.Thanks for reading and I need a 100% sure answer

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First of all hi everyone, great to join such a good forum.

I was looking a bit of advice on what would be the best to use, thermal paste or thermal pads. I'm currently using a thermal pad that was already on my arctic freezer pro and it seems to be doing a good job, sitting around 36c.
Would it be better to use the paste or just use another pad as i have never had to apply the paste before and am a bit dubious about doing it if i don't have to. Also if applying the paste would you say it's better to apply it to the heatsink or to the cpu itself.
Many thanks in advance.
 

Answer:Thermal Pads v Thermal Paste

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With regards to your question, apply thermal paste to the cpu directly, the paste should come with instructions. The paste i have says that you should rub a small amount of it into the base of the heatsink but do whatever the specific product tells you to do.

If you don't think that you need to replace your paste then don't worry about it, 36C is a pretty good temp.
 

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Is there any real difference between the two? The pads are so much easier, I have trouble getting a unified layer of paste to apply properly. I know the differences in manufactures. The reason I ask is I have an AMD64 3700+ with a Zalman CNPS7000B cooler and my temps are +50 under load. This seems too high for me, especially since I am not even overclocking her yet. Thanks for all your help.
 

Answer:Thermal pads vs thermal paste

paste is waaay better. Artic silver 5 over a pad will probably drops temps 7 degrees.
 

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Which is better?
 

Answer:Thermal paste vs thermal pad?

paste is better by 1000 milies. paste wins 100 to 0, hands down.
 

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Hello i was wanting to get rid of the thermal pad on the heatsink and replace it with thermal paste to see if i can get the temperture down of the processor. I was looking at amd's web site and they say using thermal paste/grease is for testing purposes and thermal pads are for long term use. Goto http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/section5-high.wmv and watch the video. Are they right or is this just for companies building pcs. I am now confussed because the heatsink on my server has themal paste.
 

Answer:Thermal Paste or Keep Thermal Pad

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not sure if this is in the right spot or not. i have read a few other posts about this. but my problem seems that even with arctic alumina the temp goes way up to 200 degress only doing one thing. so would paste be better then a pad or still go with paste that just melts away and doesnt do anything.
 

Answer:Thermal paste vs thermal pad

Sounds like you are just applying it too heavily or not getting the heatsink properly fastened down. There should be a very thin layer over the processor.
 

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Hello guys, I am a noob so go easy.
I am making a pc and I bought an AMD A-10 7850. black edition.
It says on the box it contains a thermal paste solution for use in a desktop pc.

The only paste in it seems to be on the heat-sink connected to the fan unit and it seems quite thin.
Should I get extra and put it on the processor too.

Thanks in advance for any responses
 

Answer:AMD a 10 thermal paste.

no............ just attach the heatsink as it is
 

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I have got a new motherboard and AMD processor. The processor came with a heat sink and fan. The heat sink has a sticky material on it. Do I still need to add some extra thermal coolin paste, which I do not have and was not supplied in the processor retail box?

Answer:do I need thermal paste

Help. I'd appreciate an answer fast as if I need it I'll need to drive to PCWorld before they close. Thanks

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Question: thermal paste

by the way, is thermal paste necessary when you're not looking to overclock? i've heard it's not as the heatsink plus fan will do fine by themselves.

Answer:thermal paste

You can use a thermal pad, but a high quality paste is best. Just don't use too much, or it defeats the purpose.

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Well I Just Purchased A 3.0 Prescott CPU and well the thing is im kind of new on the thermal paste...

Please someone give me some tips on applying it...do i put the whole tube???

and like please i seriously dont know..thanks guys
Just0
 

Answer:Thermal Paste Help Please

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hi everyone . i have a lenovo g50 30. i want to change the thermal paste due to overheating issues, but just to make sure i don't break the laptop, i want to know which parts of the laptop needs thermal past? and how much themal i should use on each part ?

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Question: Thermal paste

What does thermal paste do? Wat other things do u put it on except for the processor? Do you use thermalpaste on waterblocks?

Answer:Thermal paste

THERMAL THINK hmmmmm what could thermal mean???????

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Question: Thermal paste

What is the best thermal paste out there? Ive used arctic silver 5 but i just saw arctic silver ceramique(sp). Whats good for a Zalman 9500 on a Phenom 9950BE?
 

Answer:Thermal paste

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Question: thermal paste

when you buy a new retail version of CPU i know it comes with sink and fan, but does it include thermal paste? or does that come with mobo? or am i gonna have to spit out $15 for a tube of Arctic Cold or w/e
also im ordering a complete new pc off of newegg, is there any other accessorie i might need besides thermal paste? case includes fans and fan controller, so besides that?
thx

Answer:thermal paste

sorry, $7.59 for Arctic *Silver

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Question: Thermal paste

Hey,

I just bought an Intel Celeron D. It came with those big metal things and a fan. But I'm not sure if there is any thermal paste - There is this grey-ish solid smeared over the bottom of the heatsink thing, is that the thermal paste? I thought it would be a paste, not a solid!

Also, is this particular processor supposed to come with any documentation? In my box I got the Processor chip and the fan+heatsink thing. Something sounds fishy hey.

Any ideas?

-Michael
 

Answer:Thermal paste

What you`ve got there is a thermal pad. Removing it may void the warranty.

Just insert the cpu into it`s socket on the mobo, and attatch the heatsink and fan.

As to your other question regarding documentation, I`m afraid I don`t really know.

Regards Howard :grinthumb
 

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Question: Thermal Paste

Am upgrading my athlon cpu and replacing the cooling fan at the same time.The fan I have bought has a pink thermal pad stuck to it, but the instructions say that this can be removed with white spirit, and the thermal paste supplied used instead. Which is better - the pink pad or thermal paste?

Answer:Thermal Paste

AMD recommend that you don't use thermal paste in the long term, use the pad.

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I just ordered a new heatsink/fan, Thermaltake EXTREME VOLCANO 12. It comes with both thermal compound and thermal tape i was wondering what would be the best for me.

P.s, the thermal tape goes on the bottom/middle of the heatsink and the paste goes on the little square on the processor itself, right?

Answer:Thermal Pad or Paste?

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Originally posted by tOny mOnt4n4
I just ordered a new heatsink/fan, Thermaltake EXTREME VOLCANO 12. It comes with both thermal compound and thermal tape i was wondering what would be the best for me.

P.s, the thermal tape goes on the bottom/middle of the heatsink and the paste goes on the little square on the processor itself, right?




Just use them both, they wont conflict and you'll get double coverage on heat controle!

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Question: Thermal Paste

After reading some good reports on Shin Etsu thermal paste, I bought some, but am having a lot of problems with getting it to spread properly. It tends to clump together, and when forcing it out, it leaves such a thin covering that the lettering on the CPU is still plainly visible.

I'm about to wipe it off, and return to AS5, but before doing so, I wanted to see if I'm doing something wrong, or if this paste is over rated?

Answer:Thermal Paste

I think that the tube of paste is either getting old or its not been stored at a proper tempature or even maby a manufacturing defect. After looking online it seems that there is not much difference between as5 and the shin etsu as there are both the best pastes on the market. Hope this helps

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Question: Thermal Paste

I recently bought a tube of thermal paste and put it on my cpu.. I noticed no change in temp from idle to full mode. Temp actually were a few degress hotter.... I'm wondering if it's my heatsink or did I put it on wrong? I only put a thin coat on the cpu it self and also another very thin coat on the sink where they come in contact.
I bought some arctic silver 5 since it pretty much received all good reviews of at least a drop in 5 C from most people who bought them from newegg, but it's not working for me. Anyone has any suggestions? Btw I'm using the sink that came with my processor.

Answer:Thermal Paste

1. You should have gone to the AS5 website for proper instructions on how to apply the grease if you didn't in the first place.

2. You didn't need to put the extra layer on the heatsink also..this may be causing too much grease and may cause your temps to now be higher.

3. There is a chance you could have seated it wrong and a better reseating would give you better temps, but remember....AS5 needs like 200 hours of burn in time before it gets to it's stable level and you see your final temperatures. 200 hours is a lot of time, but generally within 1-2 weeks you can start to see the temp drop a couple degrees.

4. If it's a stock heatsink did you make sure to remove the thermal pad on the bottom because generally stock heatsinks come with those and you DO NOT want to put grease on an existing thermal pad. Unforunately, before I knew about computers when I switched mobo's, the loser at the computer store didn't know this and put a glob of paste on the CPU die then squished on the heatsink which resulted in the grease covering the connectors near the core and shorting the CPU (luckily it survived but the system would crash up until I got that crap cleaned up right)

All in all you're not guaranteed to see 5C drop especially since all you did was change the grease and not get an aftermarket heatsink or anything of that nature. I'd suggest you look into an aftermarket heatsink because that AS5 at the VERY MOST will get you 5C drop and that'd be pretty damn good. It's ver... Read more

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Question: Thermal Paste

Good Day to all.

I just cleaned my heat sink fan and processor and removed the old thermal paste on it. I put it back on the motherboard and use it everything went fine. now, i remember that there was no thermal paste on the processor, do you think it may cause future problems or it will be just fine like it was before?

thank you for your responses.
 

Answer:Thermal Paste

Take it off and reseat with thermal paste, asap, unless you like the smell of fried silicon.
 

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i was just looking at the last vid titled "thermal pad, or paste?" --> Link now if that is true... doesnt that mean u shouldnt use Arctic Silver 5 for long turm use?(especially if u leave your comp on 24/7).

please im looking fora a seriouse answer, no spammers(u know who u r)

Answer:thermal paste, or pad?

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Hello all, i was wondering if anyone could give me the name for the best thermal paste to put on my nvidia 8800 gtx gpu i took off the cooler today and cleaned it and put titan nano blue thermal grease on it and to be honest it is rubbish 56 idle temp with 100 percent fan control so you see i want to replace it as quick as i can any ideas? also can i put the paste on the memory chips of the 8800 instead of thoose pads? cheers all
 

Answer:Best thermal paste for g80 gpu :)

ah im going to buy the as5 thermal paste with artic cleaner on monday i will post the difference ty
 

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Question: CPU thermal paste?

Hi, i received my new CPU with heatsink and fan, however i dont have thermal paste/grease whatever you want to call it. I have bought it online and waiting for it to arrive .. can i use my new CPU without thermal paste until it arrives?

Thanks
 

Answer:CPU thermal paste?

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Question: Thermal Paste?

I am sure that this has been ask and answered a lot, but here goes...

Is there a significant difference between types of thermal paste, and what is the best?
 

Answer:Thermal Paste?

There is about a 1-8C differance between thermal pastes. Arctic silver 5 is the best thermal paste and is moderately priced.
 

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Is the brown patch on the bottom of the heatsink the thermal paste? It's a stock heatsink that came with my CPU, a 3200 Venice. It doesn't look like it's cut perfectly straight and if I look at it closely, it looks like fine mesh so I'm guessing it is. There was also a semi sturdy plastic cover over it. I don't want to put the heatsink on the CPU without any paste, and I don't want to go buy paste if the heatsink already has some.
Rob
 

Answer:Is this Thermal Paste?

Yes it is, and will need replacing every now and then, like every 2 months or so.

Please can an admin edit/remove that pic as it's waaaay too big!
 

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First of all I want to sat hi everyone because im new here

Now here is my problem:

I have been having problems playing wow and upon comments from techspot and official wow tech forums fistly i updated my all drivers and tested my ram sticks by swapping them. Then used memtest and come out %100 no errors..Then upon told that i need to check my temperature and finding it a bit high i opened up my laptop and cleaned both fans and that made my laptop work better than it used to be...

but the problem is that whwn i try to play wow or any other game my pc freeze and i need to push the power button to turn it off. Before doing the fan clean it used to work good at any game like battlefield CS etc except wow... Now it freezes even at a smallest game like crimson land..


1)the thing that makes me worry is that when i removed the sink that hold two fans i was able to see my cpu on which there is a dried paste which i think is the connection between the fans case and the cpu... That paste is dried and broken ...being not much into hardware of computers i need to know is that the cause of my problem or something else...

2) another thing is that when i try to check my bios settings the pc also freezes after 5 seconds...... And im not able to see any switch or battery which may let me to reset it....


3) Another thing is that when i try to format my pc it also freezes and this makes me think that its not a software but a hardware issue

finally my system is:

eMachi... Read more

Answer:Cpu thermal Paste??

Whoa!!!!

Your PC is shutting down because it's overheating! If you don't stop you will destroy your CPU (precessor) Thermal compound is NOT reusable. The processor MUST be cleaned and new thermal compound MUST be installed before continuing to attempt using the machine. Visit www.articsilver.com for more information about thermal compounds and cleaners. I repeat, stop using your PC until you replace the thermal compound.

*edit: please quote with parsimony*
 

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Question: Thermal paste

Good evening! I've bought an AMD FX-6300 and I wish to know if already have thermal paste in its heat sink. By this way, all new processor, in a first installation, doesn't need thermal paste? Thanks.

Answer:Thermal paste

All CPU's need thermal paste added unless the heatsinks already came with thermal paste applied to bottoms. When swapping a CPU or heatsink I always remove the old and apply new.

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Question: Thermal paste

Therma paste is no more on my cpu(processor) and am afraiding of on the laptop,plz where can i get another one as its very scarce here in nigeria or is there any other means of preventing the cpu from destruction?

Answer:Thermal paste

Please do not double post. I deleted the duplicate. Thank you.

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Question: thermal paste

hi, just wanted to ask if thermal paste like on cpu or video card needs to be replaced or refilled to an old pc?

Answer:thermal paste

Yes. Just look for online tutorial or videos on how to re-apply the grease.

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Question: Thermal Paste

Does the installation of all new chips require that thermal paste be used? Does the paste always come with the chip?
 

Answer:Thermal Paste

Yes all CPU require Thermal paste or pad between it & the HS.

It does not come with OEM CPU's, it usually comes with any new HS, sometimes pre applied to the HS

Retail CPU/HSF will come with pre applied to the HS
 

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Question: thermal paste

just bought a brand new core2 quad9400. On the heatsink are 3 strips or pads......are these meant to replace thermal paste, or should i still apply paste or will that be bad for the unit? I know some heat sinks come with the paste pre-installed, but what is on there isnt really a paste more like a pad and it doesnt completely cover the surface so there are gaps between the pads......maybe i just answered my own question??

Answer:thermal paste

Just install it without adding any paste

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Question: Thermal Paste

I have resently applied new thermal paste to my CPU. But it seems I just made it worse. As now it is running at 53-55.5C, instead of the usual 50C it was at Before.
What could I have done wronge?

Thank You.
 

Answer:Thermal Paste

Chris307 said:



I have resently applied new thermal paste to my CPU. But it seems I just made it worse. As now it is running at 53-55.5C, instead of the usual 50C it was at Before.
What could I have done wronge?

Thank You.Click to expand...

See if the heatsink is correctly seated. And make sure you applied the correct amount of thermal paste. For most, it's an extremely thin cover.
 

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Cpu has been overheating a bit so gave inside computer a little clean out. Did not really need it But as I had the side off why not.
now as I could not get right into heatsinc to give that a clean I had to remove the plastic cover which in turn removed the heatsink.
Now the question is as the heatsink is in top of the CPU do I now need to apply Thermal paste again.
It still tends to get a bit hot the way it is now. I usually as a rule try to stay out of computers so know very little about the workings inside.

Answer:Do i need to add thermal paste.

If you have removed the Heat-sink from the CPU.
You need to clean the old Thermal Paste off both surfaces and reapply new Thermal Paste. I have been told that a blob, the size of a pea, is sufficient.

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What is the best thermal paste to buy and should I clean the old stuff off my processor before applying it. If so what should I use to clean it.

Answer:Which thermal paste

All you need to know right here enter link description here

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I was trying to take the fan off the heat sink to clean it and accidently popped the heat sink off of the cpu.

I've got a syringe of thermal paste. Do I need to clean the cpu or heat sink before reapplying? If yes, is alcohol and a Q-tip sufficient?
 

Answer:Old CPU new thermal paste...

Use %70 Isopropyl Alcohol(cheap) with a lint free cloth or microfibre and clean as much gunk off as you can from both surfaces, preferably shiny. Apply the paste as per instructions, most likely a 1/4" line or a tad more. More is not better in this case.
 

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Question: Thermal Paste

I have just installed an Intel Pentium D Processor onto a brand new motherboard. I am a little confused about whether or not I need to put thermal paste on the processor. The Intel instructions just say to be careful not to damage the thermal interface material on the fan heatsink (which came with the processor) and do not mention any other thermal paste. The motherboard manual however, does say to use thermal paste. Is the the stuff that Intel provide sufficient, or do I need to take the heatsink/fan off again and add some paste?

Answer:Thermal Paste

QuoteI have just installed an Intel Pentium D Processor onto a brand new motherboard. I am a little confused about whether or not I need to put thermal paste on the processor. The Intel instructions just say to be careful not to damage the thermal interface material on the fan heatsink (which came with the processor) and do not mention any other thermal paste. The motherboard manual however, does say to use thermal paste. Is the the stuff that Intel provide sufficient, or do I need to take the heatsink/fan off again and add some paste?Do not remove the pre-applied thermal paste and do not touch it either. It is sufficient and efficient because it has been properly applied. Unlike self-applied solutions which often get a bit messy..

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Question: thermal paste

to what do you apply this?
the heatsink or the part of the cpu that sticks up?

Answer:thermal paste

Put a small blob on the centre of the CPU die, (the bit that sticks up), and the heatsink will spread it out as you fit it to the CPU.

(and I am not convinced that this is Software related, lol)

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Question: Best thermal paste

I am going for an overclocking self record to see if I can beet my max speed of 2.5GHz on a 2.2Ghz cpu. I have a high performance zalman cooler but no decent thermal paste. Which ones would you suggest.

Thanking in advanced

Jack-O-Bytes
 

Answer:Best thermal paste

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Question: Thermal paste

How do I clean thermal paste off the cpu?

Answer:Thermal paste

Isopropyl alcohol or alcohol wipes. i read once, somebody used toothpaste and it worked. mildly abrasive

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i was told by a couple computer building guides that when applying thermal paste (arctic silver 5) i should apply it to the CPU, and use something like a credit card to spread it over the CPU.

but the arctic silver 5 instructions http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions_big2.htm
say only put a dab of arctic silver 5 on the CPU, then install the heatsink. with no mentioning of spreading the paste over the CPU

should i go with the building guides, or the official instructions?
 

Answer:CPU + thermal paste

I'm a spreader.

Most people tend to apply too much.
Only need to be very thin layer( thin as paper maybe less), I spread so I can see it covers the cpu.
Make sure you clean the cpu & heatsink, use Isopropyl Alcohol.
Dont touch surfaces with your fingers, oils from fingers contaminates the artic silver lowering the cooling properties.
 

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This isn't that important, all it is is that I'm worried.
It was my first time round putting thermal paste onto a cpu, and i sort of used an entire 3.5g syringe of arctic silver 5 underneath a zalman9700.

Yes some did come over the sides, wiped it off, I'm guessing there is a layer inbetween the cpu and the fan now. (maybe even an air bubble)

Temps on a [email protected] 2.8GHZ, fan RPM 1500, 28C per core, 42C on load.
Since arctic silver takes 200 hours to set in, does anyone know what the effects be during that time and after ?

Can anyone estimate how much hotter the temperatures are (compared to if I didn't smother the cpu in paste) ?
And really is there any risks or future problems that could happen ?

Overall nothing seems to be too problematic, but then again, there might be, thats why I'm asking.

Answer:Used way too much thermal paste

Yeah, that's not too good there.

You only need a very thin layer. As long as it covers, thinner the better.

Anything more will cause unnecessary heat. A whole syringe could cause cpu failure from too much heat, in the future.

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I have bought a P4 2.8 Prescott and installed with heatsink and fan onto what I now know as a faulty Asus P4S800. If I take the fan/heatsink off and remove the CPU what should I be using to re attatch the two when my replacement board arrives, thermal paste or another thermal pad. The heatsink came with a pad on it ready for installation, but I guess as I have to remove the used pad as this won't be any good a second time around. Any suggestions/ideas?

Answer:P4 Thermal paste or pad?

Dude why a buy a Prescott?!? they have been benchmarked over and over again and proven to be slower that the Northwood they replaced aswell as running hotter! Should have saved your pennies until the new pin config comes out like me and brought a 3.4/800 running at a nice and cool 30'oc which will eat 2.8 alive despite its level 2 1MB Cache! As regards the themal pad on the heatsink, it wont need to be replaced when you move over to new mobo I have done this on numeral occasions with no probs, you new mobo should have heat sensors on it, keep a eye when you replace it should sit at a nice warm 35-40'c idle!

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Question: thermal paste

is thermal paste suppose to dry up or just be a liquid/solid
 

Answer:thermal paste

Paste like arctic silver stays tacky after use. A thermal pad does dry out and get hard.

You cannot ever reuse thermal compound. It must be replaced if the hsf is removed.
 

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I'm planning on building my new computer soon, and today I was at Best Buy talking to a member of the geek squad about building computers. He said that you should use both a thermal pad and thermal paste(he called it thermal grease. That's the same thing right?). I told him that I've heard that you should only use one. He said no, the more the better. Who's right?

Thanks much
 

Answer:Both thermal pad and paste?

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Question: Thermal paste dry

Hello good people. I have a silly question. Can thermal paste dry in it's package? I mean the package with which it comes.
 

Answer:Thermal paste dry

Never had any for long enough to say a certain Yes or No but I thin it is unlikely if the top is on securely. If the paste you have is dry it will be useless so you will need to get a freash tube.

Why do you need to know?
 

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Question: thermal paste/pad?

whats this for? do you have to have the paste. was looking at a heatsink for my cpu and a lot of reviews said had something about arctic silver 5. do i have to have this? how much is it?

Answer:thermal paste/pad?

Thermal paste basically is used to fill the cracks between a chip (CPU, RAM module, etc) and the heat sinks. Because no surface can truely be flat (our manufactoing process simply cant do it without skyrocketing the price), we use a pad or paste (Paste is better) to fill in the gaps for better heat transfers. Otherwise, air fills in these gaps, which insulates the CPU and builds up heat. This is bad.

Artic Silver 5 is the best avilable thermal gel.

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Question: Thermal paste

Hey all.. Just asking, for thermal paste (for CPUs), if I separate the CPU from the heat sink, do I have to re-apply the thermal paste? Thanks..
 

Answer:Thermal paste

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Hey guys, so I bough a new CPU and cooler combo that came with a thermal pad on the cooler. I set it up in my new motherboard but unfortunately, the new mobo didn't post anything so I had to RMA it. I then had to put the cpu and cooler back in its box with the thermal paste spread in both the cpu and the cooler. Now my question is, do I need to replace the paste or is the original one still good. Thanks for the help guys.
 

Answer:Do I need new thermal paste?

As long as it does not dry out and you get to fit the two surfaces back together fairly soon it should be OK. A new tube of Arctic silver won't cost much if it does dry out. Just make sure you clean off all the old paste with rubbing alcohol if it has dried on.
 

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I've been tweaking a clients AMD 2700+ today as it was reaching 80C under load (one and half hours of MOHAA!!!!!)New HSF combo (rated to 3100+) plus exhaust fan dropped the CPU temp by 10C.It idles 6 - 8C above case tempand only goes 10C above under a 10 minutes Graphics demo.I think the main problem is the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 he has is pumping out loads of heat!!!Now i had to use Thermal paste for the first time - no pads available.I have been told many techniques and methods for getting it right. I followed one on here and on the AMD sheet. I put a match head amount in the middle of the die and then spread it around the die with a piece of card making a thing layer.How do i know (without removing the HSF) if its not too much / little etc etc etc???

Answer:Thermal Paste - How do you know when its OK????

every time I do this I get paranoid like this as well. I think essentially the guidelines are making sure that you clean everything properly with the suggested fluid/s and that as long as the guidelines are followed "roughly" it should be ok........ but like you I have wondered about how the "performance" of the paste would be affected by the way it has been applied. I`m sure somebody somewhere in the overclocking fraternity will know though.........or are you scared to switch it on?.....lol

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Question: thermal paste

how/where do i put the thermal paste for the processor?

Answer:thermal paste

google...

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Question: Thermal Paste

Hi Troops,

Finally upgraded my motherboard..

My question is about applying thermal paste to
a Duron 1.3 CPU.

The chip has got a square polished metal portion
smaller, and inside the large chip area. Does that
get covered with a thin layer of thermal paste ?

Or does that small shiny portion get left alone ?

ANCII art 101:

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OK, so I'm not an artist.. The shiny centered square
is my concern. Should it be covered with thermal paste
as well ? I understand a VERY thin layer all around is
what's necessary, correct ?

Thanks,
 

Answer:Thermal Paste

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Many common household items can be used in an emergency for short periods of time!

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=164465
 

Answer:Don't have thermal paste? Use this!

I have an old p4 3.06 system I salvaged and it was overheating so I removed old thermal paste but don't have any new stuff around so I will try toothpaste and see if it makes a difference, bear in mind this thing with an 80mm CPU fan and no paste is in BIOS at about 100C so I will try it and report back if I get the chance.
 

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Question: Thermal paste

Just a quick question I am re installing an Athlon cpu, My question is do I put arctic silver only on the cpu or do I put it on the heatsink as well ?

Thanks

 

Answer:Thermal paste

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I need to re-apply a fresh new layer of thermal paste between my CPU and heat sink (I'll be cleaning off the old layer with isoproply alcohol). It's been several years before I last did it. How much paste do I need to put on? The CPU is an old Intel P4 3.2 GHz Northwood (old but it still does what I need this particular PC for). Articles I read about applying thermal paste are very vague, they just say not too little (or it won't be enough to do the work) and ot too much (or it'll insulate rather than aid in cooling). Some diagrams on the Net show "this is too much" but there's never a picture showing the right amount. The paste I'm using is Akasa 445, but I don't think the type of paste matters regarding the amount needed. If I was to put a blob of the paste on the CPU before spreading it, how big should this blob be so I know I've put on enough? Some reports say the size of a grain of rice whereas others recommend the size of a pea, which is a big difference.

Thanks in advance.
 

Answer:How much thermal paste to put on P4 3.2 GHz CPU

I'd go with, "the size of a grain of rice". If applied at the correct thickness, "the size of a pea", would just about cover the entire motherboard! :rolleyes:

All that's necessary is a very thin film. I personally use a brand new single edge razor blade the spread the material. If you're feeling clumsy, paranoid, or are actually clumsy, you can use a credit card also. But, IMO a credit card makes more of a mess, since more of the material is prone to stick to it.
 

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I've been wondering about this for a while.

I build PCs a lot, and When I put the heatsink/fan on the of the CPU, on the bottom of the heatsink is usually some kind of a thermal dissipation pad, or sometimes just a large copper base.

Is thermal paste really necessary on top of this? I've never noticed any overheating ever.

The heatsink/fans I use on the AMD XP CPUs are AMD heatsink fans that came in the retail package, or premium fans.

Should thermal paste be put between the cpu and heatsink even if the heatsink has a large copper base? (which should be enough already for heat dissipation)

thanks
 

Answer:thermal paste for CPU, is it necessary?

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Like a dumb *** I removed my fan and heat sink from the processor, I realized too late that I only had a little thermal paste left, just barely enough to cover the processor with a thin coating....is this going to be enough? I'd hate not to have put enough and the processor burn out on me. The temp of the processor according to the bios is 41c. Is this ok? Help please.

Answer:how much thermal paste?

Temp is fine. You should only apply a paper thin coat.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

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Question: New Thermal Paste

So i hear it takes a few days to a week for new thermal paste to totally settle in and do it's job at peak level. I just put on some Arctic Silver 5. How long does it take before this stuff works at full ability?

J

Answer:New Thermal Paste

Like you said, a few days to a week. Nothing you can do to speed it up, and nothing you can do to slow it down either.

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Question: thermal paste?

i built a computer a while back, that didnt work. i sent the mobo back, they just now sent a new one. but the thing is, i dont have any thermal paste or whatever to put on the cpu to try it. if i dont put that stuff on it, will it mess it up?
 

Answer:thermal paste?

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I put a good bit on when I changed to a x2
processor, there was already some on anyway.

I am wondering it i should have cleaned and put a thin film on.

However there is not a lot of difference and remember I am using twice the processing power. so you expect more heat. + it is summer here.

I have noticed sometimes when the fan comes on it is very loud as in very high speed occasionally.
However it does go back off so it shows cooling is working.
So maybe I am worrying too much.

I will have a look at it when I change my memory when the post arrives from ebay.

Anyone know the thermal properties of the compound compared to say steel?
(heat tansfer in watts per second or whatever)
 

Answer:How much thermal paste?

consult the following for thermal paste application instructions:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/amd_application_method.html
 

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My cpu was running just fine normal use 44C full load 51-54C
suddenly the normal became 49C and full load 69-72C the temps started to raise in summer
seems the junk Fan its horrible any ways it makes noise only
can you believe? this cpu was running without the fan for +5 months
Why? because When I checked this fan it has poor quality and junk noisy fan
removed it the thermal paste was thick and drying this fan is totally torned (not touching the cpu) : looks like all this period my thermal paste and CPU was doing
the job turned the computer on without any fan cpu pushed to OS running at normal at 49C so what//
this fan looks like have bent metal not stable on the cpu any ways I put it until I get new one now
I underclocked to 1200mhz to save the cpu at 44 idle 49 load totally the fan is doing nothing
so what I keep my eyes on the temp until I replace this fan it

Answer:using my cpu without thermal paste totally no (Fan) too

Why not replace the whole heatsink-fan-combo ? There are some not so expensive ones on the market.

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Hi Friends, I experience sometimes a lot of heat from my laptop. I get around 80 'c sometimes. So could this be a problem of my heatsink thermal paste? If so should i replace it? Which would be a perfect Paste as there are many vendors out there.
All suggestions are welcomed.
 

Answer:How often must we replace Thermal Paste?

What's the ambient temperature of the room, that could have an affect. Is the room cooled, or air-conditioned?

What CPU do you own?
 

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and are there any alternatives ?just a thought.

Answer:what is thermal paste made from?

Remember, Google is your friend click hereWhat is Thermal Paste? ;o)

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what household stuff is safe to use to get rid of old gunk on my CPU? I was considering using isoproyl alhohol spray. Is this safe?cheers

Answer:Cleaning thermal paste off CPU

personally i wouldnt put anything other than heat paste on my processor . i always just carefully scrape off with a piece of paper .

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I'm changing my CPU to an X2 3800 from a Venice 3000 and keeping the same stock cooler and wanted to know what I needed off of this page. Any help appreciated.confused
 

Answer:Thermal paste question

I have only used Arctic Silver Ceramique.. running an Athlon64 4000+ @ 2.8.. it idles at about 38 and I have never seen it higher than 52 (full load) on air.
 

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Hi, I need to change the thermal paste in my laptop (Pavilion g6, product no: A1Q99EA#B1A). What kind of paste should I use? Thanks,Kostac













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Answer:Pavilion g6 Thermal Paste

The best thermal paste money can buy is Arctic Silver.   You can buy it in little syringe tubes as shown above. Apply very sparingly. The advice above is a bit confusing as you apply the paste on top of the processor so you would have to remove the heatsink and break the seal of the old thermal paste before you remove the processor from its socket. Indeed, the compound can dry and form a strong bond which is hard to break and if you do not know what you are doing you can crack the CPU in the process. Use a wide blade device like a putty knife up under the surface to be broken free and do a little twist of the wrist to spread the force over a wide area to pop the heatsink off the top of the processor. Clean everything thoroughly with alcohol, allow to dry and use BB sized dots of Arctic Silver when it is time to apply new compound. Most people apply way more than needed. 

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Okay so I am making a switch to a new note book cpu (the t9600) and of course since it's a step up I am going to be a little overly cautious as far as cooling is concerned. I saw an article that said Intels stock thermal paste was actually better than theArtic Silvers. I am curious what goes into looking for a good thermal paste? Secondly, cooling systems for laptops. I hate those mats, but may decide to use one. I also saw a vacuum do hickey (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Notebook-Laptop-Vacuum-USB-Case-Cooling-Fan-Cooler-Pad-/220948357741?pt=LH_D... and I kind of like the concept and overall design but wonder if worth the money put into it or if it's just waste? On a more curious note with the fan. I want to get peoples opinions on that fan. It's more hypothetical from my stand point but if anybody has experiance I welcome it. That fan mentioned and my laptop the thinkpad t500. The t500 has to heat exhaust ports on the left hand corner one on the side and one on back. I think the cpu is pretty close to the one on the side. I am curious about airflow if adding two of those things assuming they are worth it (and despite severly reduced battery life)

Answer:thermal paste and cooling

T9600 in a T500 isn't going to cause your laptop to melt down. I have a T9900 in my current T500, and it is working just as well as when i had the P8600. These vacuum cooler are pretty much useless in these large thinkpads, and sometimes will cause other issues. Some of these external plug in fans can cause a path crossover between the directional flow of the cool intake air and the hot exhaust air, thus causing an area with stagnant air pocket, which means it will actually cause more harm than good.

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I just bought a Thermalright XP-90 Heatsink, only $24.95 plus shipping.
Just woundering is the Thermalright Thermal paste that came with the HS is any good??

I read one rewiew that it was right there with Artic Silver 5 & Artic Ceramic
Ceramic being the best.
Any comments on the subject?
I'll probably use Ceramic but was just woundering.
 

Answer:Thermalright Thermal Paste

i'v just bought the xp-90c,I was wondering the same thing,I doubt it,is this the same paste you got?It looks like standard silicone paste to me,It dont have any ingredients on,as you can see on the pic theres also alot of seperation,the stuff I got with my artic cooling nv5 seemed pretty good stuff it had micronised silver and oxide in,the same colour but alot thinner than arctic silver 5,which I have just tried,but imho as5 seems too thick.
 

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How do you know when your thermal paste is "broken in". do your temps go down or what? it said like 50-200hrs... oh its artic silver 5 btw.
 

Answer:Thermal Paste Break In

your comp HAS to be on for 50-200 hours... I just put some AC5 on and im still waiting for it to break in....
 

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so i "finished" my first build and before i started building i went down to my local pc store and bought thermal paste ....FOR 10 FING $$$ for a little tiny tube of the stuff any way i get the build going and see that the heatsink that came with my Pentium D 805 had a thermal pad.

my question is should i use paste and a pad or stick with just the pad ?

will there be a temp drop with both?
 

Answer:Thermal Paste question

The paste typically does a better job (especially if you have paste with some silver in it).

But do not use both. If you are going to use the paste, you need to remove the pad first, and then use some solvent to clean the heatsink completely before adding the paste.

Also, only use a very small amount of the paste. About the size of a grain of rice.

Good luck!
 

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I have an older machine that has an Abit ip35 Pro motherboard with an aftermarket cooler. As I said it is older and I have not used it for about a year also. I am using a Q6600 intel Quad core and was wondering if you felt after time the thermal paste should be replaced. It does seem to be running a lot hotter than when I was using it at about 45-50C at idle. I have these three to choose from, a cooler master one, a thermalright one, and Ceramique by Arctic Silver.
 

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Hi all really need your help this time.....

My cpu temp is getting up to 65 degrees C (not OCed) and I dont know why was going to put new thermal paste on and see if that helps but i don't know how to clean the old stuff off can you please help me....

And what is the best thermal paste to use???

thanks all

Gamer1238

Answer:How do you clean CPU thermal paste off the cpu????

Iv used nail polish remover not sure it it was safe but it worked

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Yes, whenever I have tried to play GTA 5 my computer has overheat because it's such a CPU based game, and I remember when I put my thermal paste in I put it quite a bit more than a "grain of rice". Could this cause overheats? Should I change my thermal paste?
 

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In upgrading my processor, how much thermal paste is needed as I read problems aplying to much or too little. If I spread a very thin layer over the whole surface is that enough ?

Answer:New processor, how much thermal paste ?

Yes, as thinly spread as you can over the area.

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Question: r60e thermal paste

Hello, I have a lenovo r60e model 0657. Recently it's gotten really hot with temperatures up to 80 C. I was thinking of putting some new thermal paste under the heat sink, but i don't know how much. And also, could someone tell me what the normal temperatures would be? My CPU is Intel Core duo T2300 1.66 Ghz 

Answer:r60e thermal paste

for T2300 around 50 to 60 when idling, when loaded they would reach 70 to 80 degrees.

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How much thermal paste should I apply to the chipset of my GeForce4 Ti4600? Is too much or too little bad for cooling?
 

Answer:How much thermal paste is wise?

This is for Arctic Silver but still a good guide.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
 

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Recently I took my HP 2000 apart to clean the cpu fan. Ref: YouTube video. When I put it back together and tried to turn it on, it had no power. I'm pretty sure I missed something inside, but before I open it up again, I would like some info: do I really need to use the thermal paste? I looked for a store where I could buy some, but every place I looked it needs to be ordered online. Not wanting to wait my eye caught an article on Tom's hardware site where he swears you can use mayonnaise in place of thermal paste. Huh? Is this for real? I wouldn't think mayo would have the same properties as thermal paste except messier. Is there a substitute for mayo? Thanks
 

Answer:Thermal Paste - Homemade?

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do I really need to use the thermal paste?Click to expand...

Yes! A CPU can go from cold to overheated in just a few clock cycles. And since there are 3 billion clock cycles every second with a 3GHz processor, it can over heat pretty quick.




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mayonnaise in place of thermal paste. Huh? Is this for real?Click to expand...

No. It is not real. Mayonnaise is made out of eggs. Would you really want to put eggs on something that gets hot and leave it there?

The purpose of TIM (thermal interface material) is to fill the microscopic pits and valleys in the mating surfaces of the CPU die cover and the heat sink to push out any insulating air. Because these mating surfaces are not perfectly flat and have these pits and valleys, and because insulating air between the mating surfaces is bad, TIM is essential.

But you must never re-use old TIM. So you need to get some, thoroughly clean the mating surfaces of all old TIM (I use 91-93% isopropyl alcohol - available at any pharmacy) and apply a proper layer of new TIM before even thinking of turning on your computer without it! I note Wal-mart has two day shipping. BestBuy usually carries it. Any computer shop should have some. If you have a Radio Shack still in your area, they will have some. Most computer enthusiasts have some - check with friends and neighbors.

When you apply it, remember "thinner the better". The ... Read more

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Okay, I'm going to open myself up to severe razzing here but oh well...I recently went thru hell rebuilding my main PC due to MB failure. I seem to have tracked down the failures to failed MB and case power switch. Now I have a functioning system and have been playing around with it over the weekend. Here's the kicker-I had run out of thermal paste while doing all my rebuilding and troubleshooting..My current rig has not paste on it. So naturally, it is running hot to the point that games will run for about 1-2 minutes b4 system freezes up. Temps in the bios for the cpu are between 50-60 celsius as I monitor it in idle. Now to my point: I have read SOOO many differing opinions and articles regarding thermal paste that my head spins. My conclusion is that I will purchase some Artic Silver 2morrow and apply it and ALL my freexe ups will go away....yeah right I hope so. Question is this how much difference in celsius temp will the paste make in reality?? I mean, from what I read my temps are too high already even without the paste. I just can't see that this stuff is going to make THAT big a difference. Having said that, I ran the same processor on the old MB for years with an original application of OCZ thermal paste and don't recall ever having such overheating issues so maybe I'm answering my own question there.
WHAT TEMP WILL A ATHLON 3400+ CPU RUN AT IN IDLE WITH AND WITHOUT THERMAL PASTE?
Some brilliant person out there must know the answer.
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Answer:Effectiveness of thermal paste...

BIG suggestion.
Don't run that machine without Thermal Paste. Good way to be shopping for another CPU and motherboard (again ).
Have recently went through the same thing,but mine isn't back up yet.
When you do install the paste, don't go too heavy with it. A drop the size of a BB or match-head spread evenly over the surface is sufficient.
 

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I am going to buy new thermal paste and apply it to my system but do I need a specific paste for my system or will any do ?WinXPAMD Athlon 1400+I have checked ebay and see there are plenty for sale at 99p plus others a little more expensive , artic silver between 5 and 10 , would the 99p paste work just as good or are the brand names better ?geo g

Answer:thermal paste for cpu/heatsink

have a word with click herejohnny.

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Hey all,

I'm wanting to clean out all my internal fans. My system is a Dell Dimension 9200.
To clean out all the fans I have to remove the heatsink to get to them (well done Dell!).

I'm going to re-apply some new thermal paste to the CPU. Just wondering if anyone had any advice on which to buy? I keep seeing the name "Arctic Silver" suggested as a good one.

Answer:Which thermal paste to apply to CPU?

Apologies if this is in the wrong category.

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Lenovo Y570Intel i7 qmNvidia 555m ddr5I brought my laptop about 3 years ago and it still works except for it lags after 5 minutes if gameplay, so I downloaded Intel Extreme Tuning Utility and it shows "Thermal Throttling" from 0% to 100% after about 5 minutes of playing minecraft. I brought this fan, Frys lied to me that it would keep my laptop like the surface of ice cold: http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Cooler/Notebook_Cooler_/Massive_Series/C_00002117/Massive_14_/design.h...I have never opened my laptop or ever touched the inside of it and I have absolutely no experience in applying thermal paste or doing any part of a PC, because that it's $799 what I brought for and I wouldn't want that to go to a waste by accidentally me. Should I let a laptop mechanic do it? or maybe he might swap parts out my laptop, purposely ruin it, I'm not full in confidence or trustworthy.

Answer:Might be GPU throttling, do I need thermal paste?

I never repasted mine, just clean the fan of dust every 3 weeks to ensure proper air flow. Ever since, I never had throttling with GPU and I don't max boost CPU when gaming to protect the laptop from excessive heat while not sacrificing gaming performance. BTW, you can open the bottom cover and this will directly give you access to the fan, but you have to take the laptop apart if you need to remove the fan and heatsink assembly for repasting. Clean the fans and heatsink completely with compressed air and limit the turbo boost to max 0.3 GHz above normal clocks to ensure smooth, non-throttling gameplay.





Lenovo Y470: i7-2670QM | 8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM | Nvidia GeForce GT 550M | 500 GB 7200 RPM Seagate HDD | ASUS PCE-AC56 802.11ac Network Adapter | Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

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I have a Toshiba L550 laptop running 64bit 7 on with an i5 430M and have already put in 8GB RAM and just about to slip in an M4 Crucial 128GB for speeding it up.

I would like to swap out the 430M for a i5 560M and the manual tells me to use Shin-etsu thermal compound.

Now apart from where the heck to get it from I am wondering if there is some thing just as good - not that I know much about Shin-etsu as a product.

My usual supplier has several good thermal pastes like Arctic Sliver 5, Noctua NY-H1, Arctic Silver Ceramique, Arctic Silver Alumina Ceramic, Antec Formula 7 and something called Indigo Xtreme which I cannot get the gist of how it works.

I would appreciate some advice on which to use as being a laptop it's not something that can be pulled apart that easily if I have to change out the thermal.

I am not concerned with warranty anymore as it is just about out and as this is the very last Toshiba device I shall ever buy if it goes bung then it does.

Answer:Which thermal paste to use on laptop

I'd use Arctic Sliver 5, hear it is excellent, have used it twice on my systems and everything seems very cool. I'm sure it only matters by a few degrees (bad paste perhaps more), but I like it. Wasn't too expensive, if I can remember. I do not think it effects warranty, though.

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