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“This folder is shared with other people” when renaming not shared folder

Question: “This folder is shared with other people” when renaming not shared folder

When I try to rename a folder on the D: partition that used to be a Windows XP recovery partition that has some Pokemon commissions in it, I get this message.
"This folder is shared with other people
If you rename this folder, it will no longer be shared."
But the folder is not shared nor has it ever been.
What is going on? Why does Windows 7 think that it is shared?

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Answer: “This folder is shared with other people” when renaming not shared folder

Hello there, 
This happens because of the way the Access Control List is queried by Windows Explorer to determine if the folder is shared. Because this folder you tried to rename is a child folder of a parent folder and the two folders have a different security entries, Windows will treat as a shared folder. This causes Explorer to give you the warning that you received. 
​Just double check, this must be a shared folder. 
Hope this helps! 

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I have all 4 PC's in the office using Windows 7 Pro. I have one computer that is designated to house my share folder for scanning documents and attaching them to our management system.  We are finding that multiple problems occur - not at once and at
different times .  Sometimes, the document within the shared folder called "IMAGEBATCH" will not delete.  Sometimes that document deletes, and then re-appears within the IMAGEBATCH folder.  Sometimes the document will not
scan through the network to the IMAGEBATCH folder.  Sometimes we get an error saying we "don't have permission to delete this file".  These circumstances occur on all computers, including the computer that houses the original file IMAGEBATCH. 
Sometimes in the day, each computer that is supposedly looking at the same IMAGEBATCH folder see different files.
Restarting the computer clears the problems, but then start right back up at irregular intervals, sometimes in the morning, sometimes in the middle of the day.
I did find a duplicate file named IMAGEBATCH on the "C" drive of that PC, so I deleted that, but the symptoms are still there.  This is the only shared folder in our entire network.  What can I be missing?  I have checked to make
sure it is a share folder, all the permissions are in place, and that we all can see the folder through the network.  What am I missing?  I am the owner and administrato... Read more

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Right clicking on the (my computer) shared documents folder does not give me an option of changing its name (or deleting it) and I accidently typed the name wrong when upgrading to XP. It's annoying and I would like to correct it. Any ideas?

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Hello everyone,

I'm using a laptop (with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit installed) as a DVR and media streamer to all other devices in the house.
My TV recordings are recorded into a temporary folder and when the recording is finished the program moves the files into the My Videos folder.

The My Videos folder is shared so we can watch the recordings from the Xbox downstairs or other Windows 7 devices in the house.
This worked pretty well in the past but for some reason new recordings (or downloads) aren't shared by default anymore. All files have a small lock icon (shared with nobody) and I have to manually share new files within an already shared folder.

This is pretty annoying and takes away the convenience.

I would appreciate any tip to fix this problem to have all files in the shared folder(s) shared by default.

Thanks in advance!

Answer:New files aren't shared in shared folder

It's easy once you know how, just right click the C:/Video's folder and choose properties, Security tab then Advanced button, then just put a check mark where it says "Replace all Child Object Permission Entries with Inheritable Permissions Entries from this Object, then hit Apply, OK....this will fix the problem you described.

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Is there a way to disable it because it keep popping up every time i delete something from shared folders and partitions.
Thanks in advance.

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Hey everyone.

I use both Linux (Ubuntu 10.04, 2.6.33-AMD64) and Windows 7 professional, and sometimes I get a little boggled at the apparent lack of functionality in W7 in the following situation.

I have a network share in the root of my drive that I've called "DropBox" where my boss and I can both put files to be shared via the network. I have a bunch of files in "Downloads" directory that I'd like to be able to share at various times, but would rather not have my downloads directory directly shared as it violates my sense of order. IE, I would much rather have one shared folder from which you can reach all the other content I need to share on the drive, and if I need to un-share something, simply delete the shortcut, and Voila! instant anti-sharing.

Figure 1. Clean Sharing

In Ubuntu, you can create a symlink within a shared folder that points to a non shared folder which allows network users to access that non-shared folder.

Does this functionality exist in W7?


Answer:Shared Shortcut to non-shared folder.

Okay, so I solved this issue on my own =) TGFG! The answer lies in the MKLink command.

Specifically: mklink /D /J Downloads "C:\Users\Robert\Downloads\"

Works like a charm. All networked machines have access to my non-shared directory through the shared folder, and it looks nice and clean on the viewers end.

Thanks for letting me rubber duck this one.

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I share files on my home network between my desktop PC and my laptop. I often move files between the two computers by placing folders on the desktops and then working with them or moving them to specific folders. The network for my laptop lists its desktop folder, but for the desktop PC, the topline \Users root folder is listed, not the desktop. Network and sharing work just fine. But how do I list the shared PC desktop folder so that I don?t have to drill down through the \Users file structure to reach the desktop folder?

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I share files on my home network between my desktop PC and my laptop. I often move files between the two computers by placing folders on the desktops and then working with them or moving them to specific folders. The network for my laptop lists its desktop folder, but for the desktop PC, the topline \Users root folder is listed, not the desktop. Network and sharing work just fine. But how do I list the shared PC desktop folder so that I don?t have to drill down through the \Users file structure to reach the desktop folder?

Answer:List specific shared folder in Network, not root folder

Tried again, and now it's working correctly. Hmmmm...

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Hello there.

I've been using this office computer for more than 2 years ago.It has win98 second edition. And it's slow,so what I think was it has viruses,so I uninstalled the old antivirus[think it was mcafee] and added AVG free edition.

My problem is that everyday it always finds new viruses in my pc,and I always had to move them to the virus vault[heal wasn't available].
It's look always like this in the same folders,other are from other places on the pc.

C:\Program files\common files\microsoft shared\paris hilton porno pics archive xxx.exe
C:\Program files\common files\yahoo!\shared\anna benson sex video.exe

I also tried Panda online active scan.

Need help on what to do.
I'll post the active scan log and hjt as i saw in other posts regarding viruses.
Incident Status Location

Adware:Adware/Gator Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files\HDPlugin1101.dll
Potentially unwanted tool:Application/ErrorSafe Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files\UWFX6_0001_N68M2301NetInstaller.exe
Spyware:Cookie/Belnk Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\[email protected][2].txt
Spyware:Cookie/Gator Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\[email protected][1].txt
Spyware:Cookie/Belnk Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\[email protected][1].txt
Spyware:Cookie/Belnk Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\rachelle\Cookies\[email protected][2].txt
Spyware:Cookie/Overture Not disinfected C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\rachelle\Cookies\[email... Read more

Answer:Solved: viruses from microsoft shared folder and yahoo!folder

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I pinned the Files folder in my account to the Windows 10 Start menu, and also saved this folder as a favorite in Edge, which is my default browser. But after closing Edge, when I then click the tile in the start menu, or after opening Edge, if I click the OneDrive link in the favorites bar, OneDrive opens my Shared folder rather than the desired Files folder. To see the Files folder, I can click "OneDrive" in the menu bar. Moreover, after the Files folder has been opened, if I then add a tab and click on OneDrive in the favorites bar, OneDrive correctly opens the Files folder, and will continue to operate this way (the correct way) as long as I don't close the browser. When I saved my OneDrive Files folder as a favorite in Firefox, I experienced the same problem. So the problem does not appear to be related to Edge.
How can I make always open in the Files Folder the first time?

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I can't seem to predict when XP Pro SP2 will let me move a folder from SharedDocs\My Videos
to C:\ and when it won't! I don't get it. If I'm Owner don't I own it already?

Sometimes I can just grab the folder that I copied from another machine and placed in My Videos and just
drag it with the Left Mouse Button into another folder on C:\ and it just moves it by changing the directory entries. Then sometimes when I do that, it copies all the files!! Well with video files that's pretty slow!!

Anyone have a clue? Seems to be no rhyme or reason to it.

Answer:Move Folder Out Of Shared Folder Same Drive Wants To Copy?

Hello MilesAhead,I'm not absolutely sure, but some of the phrases in your problem description seem to indicate that this might be a variation of the "XP + mouse movement + mouse buttons + keyboard keystrokes" behavior described in the following post. The post deals with the unexpected copying of files when trying to delete them, but I thought the same (or a similar) principle might apply with respect to moving files/folders. "Multiple Deleting Of Files Doesn't Work.":

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I am running into an issue with users renaming files on a shared drive. When the users try to rename, they get the error "A file name can't contain any of the following characters: \ / : * ? < > |". However, neither the new or old filename contains
any of these characters, or any other invalid characters as far as I can determine, just alphanumeric characters and spaces.When they try to rename it again, it works without an issue.
I have found reports of this error being generated if the file path is too long, but all users are accessing this from a shared drive, and even if the share name is taken into account the file path and name are easily under 100 characters.
I have 3 users on 3 different systems reporting this issue, so I don't think it is user error.
The workstations are running Windows 7 Pro, SP1. The server is Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise, Service Pack 2.
The users are located at a remote site, and accessing the share over a site to site VPN. There are XP workstations at the site as well, that do not appear to be having the issue.
Any help, suggestions, or guidance is greatly appreciated!

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I recently made a folder to share with an XP machine. When I look at the network through my seven machine I see the folder I shared and the USERS folder shared as well. Why is that?

I have the network setup at a home network. 7100 32 bit.

Answer:Why is the User folder shared when you share a folder?

I believe vista did this as well. So Windows 7 doesnt' work any differently from Vista in this regards.

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Hi, I'm trying to open My Pictures on my wife's laptop but I get this error message Your folder can't be shared. This also happens to other folders on the laptop. I've tried to change Security Settings but it usually leads me to an endless layer of pop ups which finally ends with me being unable to change the setting. This is my wife's private home laptop and you can just imagine how important it is to be able to view pictures and videos of our grandchildren. I just need to relax the high security settings and make this work. Any help at all would be so appreciated.

Thank you,

Answer:Windows 8.1 My Pictures Folder your folder can't be shared

Maybe take ownership of the folder---

Take Ownership - Add to Context Menu in Windows 8

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Hi guys,
I have a shared folder which contains many folders for many users on
my network and to make users folders recognisable we chose to fix a
folder picture of every folder with the picture of the folder owner.
The problem is that those folders never have a constant folder picture
on all of my network computers as the picture always changes for some
reason, I've tried to set permissions on thumb.db file and also tried
fiddling with desktop.ini file but no use. Any ideas would be much
appreciated. Thanks.

Answer:fix folder picture in a shared folder across network

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I have a strange problem, I can`t seem to fix.
I have a shared folder with many sub folders.
If I access this from another computer, it just shows some of
the folders (ex: of 120 it shows 15).
For another folder on the same server, with the same setup, it`s
not at problem.

I have checked the sharing permissions, and all of them are the same
on both shared folders.

All run Win 7 Ultimate.
Router: TP-Link TL-WR941ND, with DD-WRT v24-sp2 (11/21/10) std - build 15778
Server connected with cable, laptop via WiFi. (But tried with cable on both,
no difference)
All use Windows Firewall and Security Essentials.

And this are the same problem on all computers that's trying to open that folder.

This all happened after a reinstall of Windows.


Answer:Shared folder, can`t see the sub folder inside

Solved: Had to share all the subfolders manually. (ctrl-a)

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As my attached jpg shows...I have a folder within my "MY Pictures" folder that I do NOT want to share.

Is there a way to do this or do I have to move Desktop PICS2 out of the main MY Pictures (shared) folder ?

Also....what is the 'lock" icon on Desktop PICS2 and can it be removed ?


Answer:Can you unshared a folder that's in a shared folder ?


You need to have Admin rights to unshare the folder.
Windows 7 Tutorial: How To Unshare Your Users Folder In Windows 7

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I am using Windows XP Professional SP2. I recently lost my shared folder shortcuts under the my computer window. I can navigate to it through c:/documents and settings etc. but for some reason theres no shortcuts to it anywhere else on this computer. I even reformatted and reinstalled and still the same issue. What would make it disappear like that? Is there some quick fix I could do such as copying some sort of registry entry from another PC that would restore back to where its supposed to be by default? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.


Answer:Where did my shared folder go?

Not sure if this is your problem or not

but have a look anyway!!!!!

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Question: Shared Folder

Hello, Can I make a shared folder on my slave drive that other computers need a password to open it that way people cant look in it or put files in or take files out without having a password to get into it?

I have Windows Vista Business

Answer:Shared Folder

Hi, here is a couple of articles to help you out.

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Question: Shared folder


I am having some problems accessing my password protected shared folder over my network. It prompts for the computer's id and password however I still can not access it. I'm on a workgroup type of network and having a win7pro os.

Any tips on how to access it?


Answer:Shared folder

Quote: Originally Posted by louie12583


I am having some problems accessing my password protected shared folder over my network. It prompts for the computer's id and password however I still can not access it. I'm on a workgroup type of network and having a win7pro os.

Any tips on how to access it?


Maybe this tutorial on sharing and permissions will help.

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Question: shared folder

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, AMD64 Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0
Processor Count: 6
RAM: 8191 Mb
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6570, 1024 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 1417378 MB, Free - 1336379 MB; D: Total - 13317 MB, Free - 1637 MB;
Motherboard: FOXCONN, 2AB1
Antivirus: PC Cleaner Pro, Updated: Yes, On-Demand Scanner: Disabled
I have a desktop and a laptop computer. They are hookup in a home network with my desktop acting as server. Each computer has a shared folder which contains the files that I want to be able to access from either computer. On my desk top I can access my shared folder just fine, but my lap top I get an error message stating shared folder is misspelled. I check and it is spelled correctly. I ran the diagnose that came with the message with no results. Please help and thank you in advance.

Answer:shared folder

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Hi all

I have just upgraded to Win 7 from Vista and have a shared network folder set up on the PC.

Now that I have upgraded I can still see the shared folder from my other PC (XP) on the network but not from my now Win 7 PC which is where the folder actually is!

I have searched for files in the shared folder but comes up with nothing.

Anyone else have this issue...know a fix?

Many thanks


Answer:See shared folder from XP pc but not Win 7

Quote: Originally Posted by darrensw

Hi all

I have just upgraded to Win 7 from Vista and have a shared network folder set up on the PC.

Now that I have upgraded I can still see the shared folder from my other PC (XP) on the network but not from my now Win 7 PC which is where the folder actually is!

I have searched for files in the shared folder but comes up with nothing.

Anyone else have this issue...know a fix?

Many thanks



If you are running homegroup you need to change it. Homegroup is for win 7 machines only and it uses IPv6. For networks with mixed environments workgroup is a better alternative. to test for yourself create a new network connection using workgroup and if it works disable Ipv6 and kill homegroup

Let us know if you need help


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Does anyone know if OE6 will supprt the use of a shared network folder to use as a message store. Ie. So that anyone on our LAN can access the Inbox of a specific account??

If OE6 does not support this feature, what is the workaround? Creating a local IMAP account or maybe using thunderbird instead?

any help would be appreciated

Answer:LAN shared folder with OE6??

Hi dalani

Creating an Imap account would probably be the best way to go.
I don't have any information on Thunderbirds's capabilities regarding sharing.

See this link for reasons why sharing Outlook Express on a network is unstable:

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I want to ask about shared folder. I have 2 folder sharing on my office network.

The problem is, how to make 1 folder password and the other folder is free password to access?

I need some advice please. Thank you.

I'm using Windows 8 pro x64

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I am a local administrator on this domain member Windows 7 Professional computer. When I try to share a folder, I get the message "Your folder can't be shared". The folder is on a local USB-attached drive. That is all the message says; it does not provide
any further details whatsoever. Also, I cannot seem to find a KB article pertaining to this issue. Very frustrating. Any help would be very much appreciated!
Sam "flux"

Answer:Your folder can't be shared.

Hi Sam, you can try enabling file sharing in the network properties:
Network and Sharing Center -> Click the current connection -> Status -> Properties
Make sure that "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" is checked.Sean Zhu - MSFT

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Question: shared web folder

hi it avilable to make a SHARED WEB FOLDER in the windows Xp Pro . and how ?cause i saw someone do it , but i don't know how

Answer:shared web folder

Can you provide more details what you are trying to do?

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I have admistrator rights but I can not access the Documents folder

Answer:folder can't be shared

If this happened recently, use system restore to a date prior to the problem.You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.

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I create a folder, i right click on it and choose 'share with' i then pick 'specific people' then 'everyone' and when i click share button on the buttom it says i cant share folder, whats up with that?

Answer:Folder cant be shared

what folder?

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hi, i've set up my wireless network to share my music folder but when accessing it on the client pc i can't see the mp3's. why?

Answer:shared folder - can't see my mp3's


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Question: Shared folder

We have common machine contains two shared folders. Folder10 and Folder20. Folder10 shared only one user "X" and Folder 20 shared only one user "Y". (both folders have administrator permission)

If User 'X' is login he will not view user 'y' shared folder?. Is this possible.

Answer:Shared folder

Not sure about this one, maybe possible.

Other way around is maybe password each folder so only owner can access?
But give admin full access?

Is X and Y on the same group?

Have a look at this;

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Question: shared folder

I am having trouble putting my shared folder on our network. I share a network with my roommate and he has his on our network, but I cant seem to figure it out. He has looked at mine and also cant figure out why mine isnt sharing. does anyone have any ideas?

Answer:shared folder

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Question: Shared folder

I accidently deleted the default shared folder that's normally found alongside the 'my music' and 'my pictures' can I get it back?

Answer:Shared folder

scroll to the bottom of the page for the free version click here

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it contains alot of stuff such as

[WZF]Death Note - Capitulo 28[MQ][Xvid][848x480]
[MNnF] Naruto Shippuuden 11 avi
A.A.L.--Alien Eliminator 1.85
A1Monitor Network Monitoring & Server Monitor 7.0.1
Abee CHM Maker Pro 1.8

do they serve a purpose or are they just extra junk to delete? Thx

Answer:What is this shared folder i have?

[WZF]Death Note - Capitulo 28[MQ][Xvid][848x480]
Death Note is just anime.

[MNnF] Naruto Shippuuden 11 avi
Naruto Shippuuden is also another anime

A.A.L.--Alien Eliminator 1.85
A.A.L.--Alien Eliminator is massive arcade action packed into 45 unique alien spaceships. Shoot whatever moves (or doesn't move for that matter) in 135 planetary systems in 15 empires. Pick up in-game powerups and earn hundreds of upgrade points to unlock better ships with stronger armor, more powerful cooling systems, twin-missiles, or a terrifying railgun.

Uncover all the wisdom that is hidden on every planet, fight off wave after wave of alien aggressors, and adjust your strategy to dozens of attack formations and moving styles.

A1Monitor Network Monitoring & Server Monitor 7.0.1
A1Monitor is software you install on your server, or monitoring PC. You add or edit server entries. Each server entry represents one of your tcp/ip servers. Monitor a web page to make sure it's up. A1Monitor can scan the server response for error text. Ping any TCP/IP server. Login to your POP3 or SMTP email servers. Check your FTP server. If any of your servers can't be reached, or respond with errors, A1Monitor will send you an email notification (which can be forwarded to a pager). In addition, A1Monitor can run an exe or batch file (.bat) or even reboot the server when failures occur.

A1Monitor is inexpensive. Many other similar software packages charge thousands of dollars for what ends up to be ... Read more

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I have NT as does the other computer in my office. We have been sharing files for months, and something has happened that is now preventing me from accessing the other computer. Windowns Firewall and AV is turned off, as we use a router. I can go to the other computer and confirm that the folders I need access to are shared and can be edited by others. I return to my computer and when I try to browse to that folder get the following: "\\server\foldername is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the admin... Not enough server storage is available to process this command." Both computers have lots of memory and disk space.

(This is my first posting... be gentle.)

Answer:A shared folder isn't available that use to be

Should be a security tab when you right-click on a folder. You may have to be logged as an administrator or in safe mode to access it. Check that permissions are correctly allowed for the other account.

I'm not 100% certain about this since I've never used NT, if I'm wrong... be gentle

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When I try to share a subfolder under My Documents with my homegroup I get an error stating that the folder cannot be shared. How can I fix this.

FWIW, I can share the folder using Advanced Sharing Options but I cannot share it with the homegroup. Thanks for any suggestions.

Answer:The folder cannot be shared?

Everything in the user folder has permission just for that user not even admin has right to it you better sharing outside the users folder

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Question: shared folder

hi every one
can i ask your hlp

i have a network in router , so how i can make a shared folder at anther pc ... in win 7


Answer:shared folder

The easiest way is use homegroup. Follow this tut: Homegroup - Add Computer or Join

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Hi ,
We have NT 4 server w/ Win98 desktops.
I am attempting to go paperless.
I would like to create a shared folder that will allow my
students to drop their assignemnts into it , but not allow
them to open the folder or see/opne the other files, thus allowing them to acces the
other student's files.
I have tried (on the NT server)giving the students:
1. Add: write & execute (WX)
2. Add & Read: read, write & execute (RWX)

I have also tried sharing from a Win98 desktop.

Sometime I can access the folder on the desktop but not via an app (i.e.Word)
What I end up with is either a folder they can't access
or a folder that they can get to everything.

I rememebr setting up a "Drop box" many years ago with
Apple share.
How do I do this with NT 4 or Win 98?

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I was poking around in my program files on my desktop and came across this file in the common files" surething shared". Do I need this file folder? it does not look very useful? I am running windows XP Pro.

Answer:surething shared folder

Do have a program called 'SureThing CD Labeller'? or anything from 'Microvision'?

If so it's just for that.

If not then run your AV's and post this question in the AV section.

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I have Windows 7 Professional x64.

My pictures are located in this folder: L:\Users\<name>\My Pictures

I want to share this folder with another user on my computer. Can't do it.

Simply altering the folder's permissions doesn't work. If I change permissions so that the folder in question does not inherit any permissions from parent folders, and instead allow my user read-only access to the folder...access denied.

Alright then, I tried to share the folder with my user. Although sharing usually means sharing with other computers on a network, it also applies to other users on the same machine. But the user can't access the shared folder...access denied.

I could move the folder in question to the Public user, but then everyone can see it.

Holy cow...what does it take to share a folder with another user on the same computer?

Answer:Can't Access Shared Folder!

Hi ;

You may go to folder right click sahre and select specific user then type in username and add folder read / read-write

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Getting following message on our 20 computer XP Pro and W98 p2p network:

Error Message: no more connections can be made to this remote computer at this time because there are already as many connections as the computer can accept.

Have a XP Pro machine in a lab of 6 XP computer and 14 W98 machines. I am used to sharing a folder and letting a many machines use a shared folder on w98. Obviously WXP is controlling this more than W98. Want to use shared folder on WXP as location for any students to open and save files as students come and go through day. Have a drive L: mapped to this folder and seems to work fine for several days and then start getting the above message. I am not in classroom so when I get there some machines will make the connection while others can't. I end up restarting some machines and manage to get machines to reconnect.

Am I bumping into an issue of only 10 connections allowed to a shared folder on a WXP machine. Read something about that on another site. It seems that I have been able to get all 20 machines to connect to the drive but perhaps I am closing the window as I move around room. If there is some limit of 10 connections is it possible to get up to 20 connections?

Any thoughts??

Answer:XP Pro shared folder connections


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Answer:Windows Xp Shared Folder

Just need File and Printer Sharing and it is installed and turned on by default in Windows XP I believe.

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Need help with a network share issue.

I have 2 Win7 PC?s running on a home network. I have various folders set up for shared access across the network and they work fine. However, I run a game on the main PC with add-ons that run on the 2nd PC. They run OK and connect with each other, but to get full functionality the add-on on the 2nd PC needs to be able to access the game folder on the main PC another.

The game folder is in the Program Files (x86) folder and I have set it up as a share. The PC and the shared folder appears in the network section on the 2nd PC. However, when I try to access it, it tells me that Windows cannot access the location because I do not have the permissions etc. I have checked and re-checked the share settings on the main PC and they seem to be OK.

All the oher folders I have shared are fine, eg My Doc, Music etc.

At a loss with this.

Answer:Win 7 shared folder problem

Install the game on both PC's and that should rectify the issue.

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In the process of setting up a 20 computer closed network using a workgroup running xp-pro. All 20 show up in "Workgroup" and I can "click on" each computer and have access to shared folders on all but 3. On these 3, when I "clickon" the computer, a login window appears(which I don't want). I thought I had setup all the machine in the same fashion, but apparently I didn't. Is there a setting, checkbox or something that I'm missing? Thanks.

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Before recently having to reinstall XP Home, I vaguely remember there being a folder "Shared Documents", into which one could drag and drop files which any user could then look at. After reinstalling, it doesn't seem to be there any more.Am I imagining its existence? If not, how can I get it back?

Answer:"Shared Documents" folder?

click here click here click heremay help.

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I apologize if this is in the wrong area.
So I'm running win xp mode on my win 7 computer and I have a shared folder to pass files between them. The folder's drive letter is S:
Every time I restart my win 7 the S drive disappears and I have to re-share it through command prompt.
Any suggestions? To initially share it in command prompt I used this: subst S: C:\WinXP
I mapped the folder in win xp so that isn't a problem right now, I just need that S drive on win 7 not to disappear when I log off or restart the machine.
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional, 64 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 37 Stepping 5
Processor Count: 4
RAM: 3890 Mb
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics, 1721 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 463566 MB, Free - 260864 MB; S: Total - 463566 MB, Free - 260864 MB;
Motherboard: TOSHIBA, NBQAA
Antivirus: Microsoft Security Essentials, Updated and Enabled

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I've encountered a very odd thing here. I have a PC that runs on windows XP Pro and it's connected to domain server.

What happens is that when i was trying to access to files on the server, i typed in \\ to the address on windows explorer. It failed with the following message

"\\ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resources... The network is not present or not started."

Then, i checked to see if i could get onto the internet. yes, the internet's working. I run windows command prompt and run ping to the server's IP address and got replies back from the server. Everything seemed to be OK. I couldn't think of anything that might be the cause.

After that, i tried to access to the server again but this time by a different mean. I went to windows explorer and then click on "My Network Places". I found the shared folder on the server there and clicked on it and it worked. I could get in with no hassle at all. So what's wrong with typing in the IP address to the windows explorer. Very strange one.

Has anyone had a similar issue like i have before and might be able to help me out?

THank you in advance

Answer:Can't access to shared folder

1. try without the backslashes.
2. Maybe you have the wrong digits in the address?

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Please Help!!! Using Limewire to download movie files I found after one of the downloads my computer started to play up. I tracked the problem to Limewire "shared" folder but no matter what I do I can't seem to delete the folder even after uninstalling Limewire! I have tried everything but nothing seems to work. Every time I try to delete the Shared folder or go anywhere near it it tells me it encountered a problem and it needs to close down. Please help!!!
Thank you

Answer:Corrupt "shared" Folder

Have you checked the folder's Properties?Right click the folder, and select Properties.Make sure it's not set to Read-only.If it is, uncheck it, click Apply, and click OK.Now try to delete it.If none of the above works, here are a couple of programs, you can try:EraserUnlockerDelete DEoctorThere's also this Microsoft Knowledge Base Article that might be helpful:How To Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP

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I have 3 PCs on a network using Windows 10. I have a shared folder on one PC. Of the other 2 PCs, one can access the folder and the other cannot. The one that cannot is asking for network credentials. Just the other day the 2 PCs could access the shared folders. I did not set this up but I need to resolve it for my friend who also did not set it up.

Answer:Cannot access a shared folder on another PC

When it asks you need to give it a username and password for an account on the PC your connecting to. If you turn off password for the sharing it shouldn't happen

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I had created shared a folder in SP1 so that I could monitor my kids using some software (guardian monitor). When i loaded SP2, the software acts as if the folder could not be written to and fails to launch. The folder is in the shared documents folder but the "read only" box is always checked even after I change it. Any clues? Thanks.

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I'm having no luck making a Windows 7 folder write accessible to XP. I've turned off password protected sharing and given both "Everyone" and "Guest" read/write permission. I can access the folder, but whenever I try to transfer a file to it, I get:

"Error Copying File or Folder - Cannot copy ____: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use."

Any suggestions?

Answer:Can't Write to Shared Folder


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Hi all,

I have a server running on Windows Server 2008. It's connected to network and has a shared folder. The shared folder is important and accessed frequently.
When I try to access the shared folder by typing \\<server IP Address>\ from Windows + Run, I've got an error message said that "The specified network is no longer available".
I remote the server, check the services with services.msc and find that Computer Browser service doesn't start while it usually starts automatically. When I try to start it, I've got an error message "Error 230 : The pipe state is invalid".
I've searched from Google but don't find any information useful.

The only way to gain access to the shared folder I've found is to remote the server and it's succeeded.

My questions are :
1. Does Computer Browser service is responsible about no access to the shared folder from the server?
2. How to start the Computer Browser service? If it is possible, I don't want to restart the server.


Answer:Can't access shared folder

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Question: lost shared folder

l lost my shared folder any way to get it was in documents and settings

Answer:lost shared folder

try system restore,start, all programmes,accessories,system tools

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If I share a OneDrive folder with someone and they add it to their OneDrive so the files sync to their local machine then I subsequently stop sharing the folder with them, are the local copies deleted from their machine?

Answer:OneDrive Shared Folder

I don't believe local copies would be deleted from their machine.
They would just stop syncing.

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Hi! I have decided to shared folder but averytime I add a file to that folder the file is not automatically shared but I have to share it manually. Is there a way to tell that avery file I'll add to that folder has to be intended shared...

Is is not a big deal but it is annoying...

Answer:Add files to a shared folder

This is how I share files. Network File Sharing.pdf

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I'm trying to access ghost.exe which I have copeid to shared folder C:\Ghost on Vista Home Basic, using a network drive mapping DOS boot disk.
The boot disk is obtainable free to download at Universal TCP/IP Network Bootdisk for M$ Networks.
I have correctly configured the IP addresses in the config file on the boot disk, and configured net use G: \\vistab\ghost as the drive to be mapped.
I have shared the c:\ghost folder for Everyone group full control and also added Everyone group to security permissions full control.
Each time I try to access the folder from the dos prompt run from the floppy boot disk I get 'Error 5 - Access Denied'.
I can ping vistab from dos and recieve a reply, and vice versa.
I turned off Windows Firewall and turned off Password Protected folder sharing.
Still can't get it to work.
Has anyone had any experience with this please?

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I have major problem.

I am unable to open, scan or even touch my shared folder with the mouse.

I have Norton Internet Security 2005 (updated regularly via subscription) and Ad-Aware SE Personal. Both are unable to scan C:documents and settings/ejer/shared

When any scanning reaches the folder scanning stops and closes down automatically and computer returns to everything is normal. Other running programs like Internet explorer etc. continue keeps running in normal state.

This problem occured when file sharing program Limewire ( was running and I think I've been attacked by hacker or virus.

I now have downloaded Unlocker and Dr. Delete and both are unable either delete or even open shared folder. I have updated windows xp ect. and it doesnt help.

What is going on with my computer????

Answer:Shared Folder Untouchable

Have you tried to scan in SAFE MODE?

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I have a Desktop PC which is running Windows Vista Business. I have a folder being shared on it (with Everyone allowed)

File sharing is turned on, Password requirement is turned off.

I have two laptops. One Has Windows XP Home. It can see and access the shared folder on the Vista Business PC with no problems.

My other laptop has Windows Vista Home Premium. I need to access the shared folder on the Vista Business machine from this laptop. It can see the Vista Business machine, and it can see that it has a shared folder. However, when trying to access this shared folder from the Vista Home Prem laptop, it gives me an error message about not having permissions and that access is denied.

All 3 computers are in the same workgroup.

As it happens, the XP Home laptop has some shared folders. I AM able to see and access the shared folders on the XP laptop FROM the Vista laptop.

I am stumped. Does anyone have any ideas?

Answer:Cannot Access Shared Folder

Also, from the Vista laptop I CAN access the "Public" shared folder on the Vista Business PC.

As such I don't believe it can be a firewall issue.

The permissions on the shared folder I am trying to access are set to Full Control for Everyone.

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I have 15 computers connecting to the Windows 7 workstation yet I experienced the error message: 'An error occured while re-connecting.No more connections can be made to this remote computer at this time because there are already as many connections as the computer can accept'

I have been reading about the limitation and learning that there is no way around the 20 limitation. I am also seeing that an external hard drive connected through USB to the workstation is also limited to 20.

Question regarding the limit of 20 - are we talking about simultaneous 20 users accessing the file folder and the sub folders? Or are we talking about 20 mapped computers? Has there been a solution around this limitation?

Answer:Shared Folder 20 Limitation

As far as I remember it is concurrent. That would also include mapped drives I believe. The problem is that although the user may logout (turn of their machine etc) Windows won't always drop that share so you may have to reboot the machine acting as a server.

The solution would be to migrate to Windows server or use a NAS for the shares.

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Is there any software that will displays the people who are accessing folders on my PC and the files, etc? I want something just like the Management console, but that updates itself. I don't want to have to keep running back and refreshing it. I'd rather have some real-time software.

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i'm used wireless connection in Vista...when i want shared my folder with other pc in wireless...the error "permission denied"...

Answer:Folder Shared,but cannot access

Just sharing the folder isn't enough especially in Vista, make sure you set the permissions to FULL access so you can read/write and move/remove files.

That should give you the access you are looking for.

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Imagine we are having a workgroukp LAN of 30 comps. I am accessing C drive of my system thru n/w. After my work I came back to my seat. Just then only I discoverd my C drive which I shared contains very critical docs which is confidential. But whn I wnt to that system the origianal user of that system is not allowing me to log off b'coz he is hvng so many unsaved works which have to finished.

so what can I do to disconnect the shared resource I accessed frm other computers without logging off?

Somebody told me to use net system command..but that is useful only for Domain environmnt..
If any one knows.. U r great man.. let me know/

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Hi all, Is it possible to make a shared folder accessible to only particular network computers? (Using ordinary Windows XP pro.) Is it possible to make a computer invisible to some of the network computers but not others?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Answer:Can you let only particular computers see a shared folder?

Don't know about invisible, but you can use the permissions to deny access to it.

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I've had a wireless network running for some time, and this is the first time i have had the following problem occur and it has me perplexed!

I have three computers using the network, the main computer which has network cable connecting it to the router, and then two wireless computers. The problem is that when i am on one of the two wireless computers and attempt to copy/paste anything out of any shared folders on the main computer (accessed through network connections), nothing will happen, no messages etc, although after more than 2 or 3 successive tries explore.exe freezes. If i attempt to watch a video from a shared folder the first 5 or so seconds will play and then media player freezes.

I can move files back and fourth from the main computer into the wirless shared folders without hasle when i do so phsically from the main computer, and when i am on the wirless computers it allows me to copy files into the main computers shared folder with no problem, again it is just when attempting to copy FROM the main computer shared folders to the harddrives of the other two computers while on one of the wireless computers that problems arise.

Just some background info, Belkin router, Windows XP Pro on all 3 machines, other than above problem internet works and all computers have access to the network.

Sorry about that rather lengthly post, but any time you devote to helping me with this issue would be very much appreciated. Have a nice day

Answer:Shared folder freeze-ups.

What security software are you using. I would bet the root of the problem will be found there.

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My question is: Is there a way to send a document or file directly to another computer using the send command. Thanks.

Answer:shared folder on network

I assume you are using Windows..

Yes, right click on a folder you want to share, go to properties, and then the Sharing tab (I don't know if this is different in 98, 'm using XP and It's been about 2 years since I've touched 98)

If you are using linux, I don't know.. you would have to setup samba to share with a windows system, that I do know..

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I have one sick puppy right now. Thanks to Limewire and stupidly downloading something harmful I am unable to open and/or delete anything from my shared folder. I have run Norton and antispy ware but the spyware program shuts down when ever it reaches the shared folder. Every time I try to open it it says Error signature AppName: explorer.exe AppVer: 6.0.2900.2180 ModName: unknown ModVer: Offset: 00006770

I also managed to download the spydawn annoyance. I think I found a way to delete it but I can't do anything until I get this folder issue solved.

Please help me!!!! I will be forever grateful

my hijackthis report is as follows:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 4:24:46 PM, on 3/10/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
C:\... Read more

Answer:Shared Folder [see HJT thread]

You need to post the log in the hyjack this forum. Usually the security team requests that you follow the "first steps", which is above in red.

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please i need to know types of folder cannot be shared,between two computer of the same window,andwhy an operating system cannot be shared?

Answer:what types of folder cannot be shared?

Homework questions are covered in your course material. Don't shortcut your education or you will pay dearly later on.

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I just created a VPN connection to my server. I can successfully connect to it from my laptop. My question is, I have a folder on the server called SchoolStuff and want to connect to that folder from my laptop. How do I go about doing that. Can I do a network drive on it or something?

Answer:VPN connection and shared folder

You could map a network drive or go to start>run then type in \\sername\foldername and click on okay. If that doesn't work try by ip address. \\\foldername


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I have Vista 32 and need to set up a network folder to allow my scanner write to it and save documents. I can not change the option "read Only" in the general oprions tab under properties. please help

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Is it poss to move the shared folder to another partion

Answer:Moving Shared Folder

You can share almost any folder you like. What do you mean by "the shared folder"?You can copy a shared folder to a new partition by dragging and dropping, but it will loose its shared status. But there's nothing to stop you reapplying its shared status.

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Hey guys. I am needing a bit of a custom setup for something, but I'm not even sure it can be done... This is the best way I can describe it:

Computers A, B, and C all need to have the same copies of every file in a certain directory. What I was hoping I could do was configure these computers to update their files frequently based on what they see in a FTP version of the folder, that way all 3 computers could contribute to one large work folder without manually sending copies of a file produced on one computer to the other 2 computers. Can this be done?


Computer A creates a document and saves it. It checks the FTP folder and realizes document x isn't present, so it uploads it. Later, when computers B and C check the FTP folder based on the schedule, they realize that they don't have copies of document x, and so they download it and add it to their local folders.

Thanks in advance for any help with this. I was hoping their was a software solution available for this and that it wouldn't involve me setting up some sort of FTP server at my house or something.

Answer:FTP shared-access folder

look into some CASE tools...they're generally pretty expensive though

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I run XP Home and recently added an external HD. For some reason when I play MP3 Playlist songs in Windows Media Player the only songs that can be played/recognized are on the "G" drive. It seems these songs used to be "F" drive songs as all the ones that are not recognized now are "F:\My Shared Folder" or "F:\My Downloads".
Do I need to rename the folders to "G" from "F" and if ?


Answer:G:\My Shared Folder - Problems !

try and remove the songs that are not recognized, and re-add them under their new location. Problem might be media player is looking for the songs under the old file path (f:\) and not their new location on your G:\

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all users in just one branch can't access their shared folder in the server. it was fine til yesterday and today, no one can get in. that generic "Access Denied" error message pops up.

i, however, can access it wtih no problem but i'm in a different site.

the server in question is running on win2000sp4 and is a domain controller and the only server at this branch office. the users are on XP with sp2.

Answer:no access to shared folder?

Can the client ping the server IP address & computer name?

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hello there i encounter another problem on my PC running Windows XP SP3

i already OFF / disabled my Anti-Virus because i am thinking it was the cause of this, but it won't, it's not.. there is something wrong with my system..

any kind of solution for this? i've tried on google but none of those are work perfectly..

Answer:Shared Folder won't check

You can't make the folder "so that only you have access" and share it with others on the network at the same time. Un-select "Make this folder private" and you should be able to choose to share it on the network.

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Hello allI am working on some shared folder in organization, I have shared some folders to a user, and I came to know that the authorized user is open a shared excel file and has READ ONLY permission on top of the file. I check the file and folder, there was Read-only button checked on, than I deselect it press apply and ok, again went to properties, the readonly button still checked. I wonder why it is happening. why it happens and how to resolve it. There is GOD where there is true smile for someone...

Answer:Read only on shared folder

Check the NTFS Permissions or simillar. That might help

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I've mapped some folders in my laptop (Windows 7 Professional 64-bit).
I wanted them offline so I chose make available offline. After some days I've removed 'Make available offline'.
Now, the problem is when I open a file in shared folder for modification it's taking a local copy the changes are not reflecting in server. 
What I dont understand is when I removed offline, how am getting a local copy instead of the files in server.


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Can Anybody Tell Me How To Password Shared Folder, Or Help Me With Any Reliable Software I Can Use To Password My Folder Especially The Shared Ones.

Answer:Password Shared Folder

hello ,

read this the info is in there for what you want


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Hi guys,

Here's the problem..

I'm trying to connect a shared folder on a desktop PC using my laptop.
However, everytime I attempt to connect, it causes the desktop PC to BSOD.

The error that pops up seems to point to a video driver issue w the onboard Intel graphics adapter.
I've downloaded and installed the latest driver from HP.
Still the same error occurs.

The desktop specs:
HP d530 w Windows XP SP1, 256mb ram, 40gb HD, cdrom
Computer browser & Server services are started.
Permissions are set correctly.

Laptop specs:
Compaq Evo N800v, Windows XP SP1, 512ram, 40gb

Any ideas??

Answer:Connecting to a Shared folder

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I find my users folder shared sometimes when i go into my root drive. I promptly unshare it and it stays that way for a little while before sharing itself again. is there any know reason for this? I admin quite a bundle of computers for my friends and family and i have noticed that some of their machines will, as well, do this from time to time.

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I have a question. I just set up my first home server form an old computer. Everything works great, even got tightvnc to work. My question is however, how can I PW protect the folders that im sharing? In Windows 98 it was easy, it just lt you set a username and password to protect the shared folder but I cant seem to find a way to do this in XP Pro. Any suggestions?

Answer:PW Protecting Shared folder in XP Pro

use the ntfs file system and active directory and use security under folder properties and give access to those u want incluing:

give access to:
Admins group
the user

possable access to:
authenticated users


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hi there guys,,, im no longer using norton as antivirus [well it expired] and now im using avg7.5,,, but i was checking my folders and came across a "symantec shared" folder [screeny on attachmet] and it takes up 280megs of space so i was wondering since i dont use norton anymore can i just delete that folder?,,, thx in advance,,,

Answer:symantec shared folder,,,

If you have no other Symantec programs installed on your computer (Norton 360, Norton Internet Security, etc), then it would be ok to delete that folder. this day and age of 100+ GB hard drives, 280 megs is just a drop in the bucket in terms of space. Unless you're really cramped for space, there's no harm in leaving it, but, if you want to delete it, there's no harm in that either.

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Hey, I just registered here today because I could not find any answers to this problem I have with my computer. Everytime I try to open my shared folder a windows explorer message appears. It does it everytime I try to open it. Then it shuts out the window where I tried to open it. On occasions, when I reach the folder, the error appears, and I haven't even clicked on my shared folder. This started to happen a few days ago when I was running Limewire. I tried watching a video, then Limewire shut itself off and quit running. I cannot open it up either. I have uninstalled it and Java, and reinstalled both, but to no avail. I do not know what is wrong with my computer, it's been acting strange lately.

Answer:Can't open Shared Folder

it would help if you could specify the error message...

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Hopefully this is the right place to write this. Be patient with my writing please.
I have a shared folder on my server computer. I can access all my folders except folders within my music drive. I can access the main share (root of the drive), but when i go within that folder, i try to click on another folder and get the error:

\\server\music\folder name is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator to find out if you have permission
Access is denied.

Here is what i have done.

I have also tried:
disabling the firewall
deleting the share then making a new one
Simple file sharing.
Disabling simple file sharing.
Changed permissions to full control, everyone, and specific users.
Other permission changes.
A couple of other things i cant remember right now.

About a week ago i was getting an error that was saying i don't have enough memory resources or something. Cant remember the exact error, but it would not let me access any of my files or folders, shared. I did the fix i found and it worked for about 2 days. Now i am getting this problem. The errors show up on the network computers, not the server.

It happens when any computer on my network tries to access the folders. It is an Windows XP Professional box. Other pc's are vista, xp, and 7. All same error.

Any help would be appreciated.

Answer:Cant access shared folder

try checking the NTFS permissions, instead of just the share permissions maybe?

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Dear All,I am working on a microsoft small business server and have a user drive that holds all shared files, I am keen on having some of the folders protected for access by only certain users.I have looked up in help and it tells me about setting up secure group, but then if i allow permission for this group and the same users are in the main users group which has a deny permission the deny permission takes precedence.Can anyone help me with this?ThanksEmily

Answer:Shared Folder Permissions

don't create a "deny" permission.... If you don't want a user or a group of users to delete something or access something leave it blank (don't add the user/user group or if you doin't want them to delete something... Leave the deny permission blank and also the permit permission blank and they wont be able to delete the file/foler!!!)... If you need more help on this, I can send you a screen-shot of how I have used the permissions and explain in more detail!!Just e-mail me if you want the screen-shot!!!

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A friend of mine asked me how would he go about setting up a shared folder that'll require login in order to access it?

Both of the computers are on the same network and he doesn't want the shared folder to be open to the public, he wants a login for it. Anyway to do this?

Win XP Pro on both of the system Thanks in advance.


Answer:Shared Folder w/Login?

This is funny, last night I was settign up my own netowrk and had basically the same question:

and here is something quite usefull:

Hoep it helps.


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I have XP home. I recently created a user account for my wife on my computer. (Bad move, I hear you all say!) I did what I thought XP was telling me to do: "drag the folder to shared documents". I took this to mean "move" rather than "copy". As a result, I appear to have lost ALL my dear lady's data in one go. The shared documents folder now has a folder in it with the correct title, but it says it is empty, and when I click on it, it says access is denied. The folder is missing from its original location, as you would expect if it has been moved. "Search" reveals that the files which were in the folder, are nowhere to be seen on the computer. Please help to avoid unmentionable consequences. Can I restore/recover the data? Thanks

Answer:Shared folder trouble.

It's possible that the permisssions on the shared folder have got corrupted.
- reboot into safe mode
- login as Administrator or a user with admin privileges
- run explorer
- right-click on Shared Documents, and choose Sharing and Security...
- click on the Security tab
- make sure that the the permissions are set to allow All Users full acccess; if you have any problems then you might need to click on the Advanced button and take ownership of the folder.
- now check the contenst of the folder to see if any files have appeared.

For more detailed instructions on setting folder permissions use google.



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Please help ... i'm using XP Pro sp3 and have an external 500GB harddrive.
- I can share the root of the external harddrive, it show from the other PC but it won't open
- I try unshare the root and share the folder, it show from the other PC but still won't open
- I attach that driver into other PC and share the root, it can be open from the other PC

Any suggestion?

Answer:can't open shared folder

Are you networking 2 pc`s? I dont quite follow?

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hi all,
i have a query . how can i secure my folder which is shared either by password or using any other type of encryption?
i know a few third party tools like folder guard etc but is there any built in facility in windows Xp.
i use Windows Xp prof OS.
thanking u in anticipation

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I'm having windows 7 ultimate ,I found that my Files And printer Sharing option is ON ,while it should be OFF by default
is there someway to discover who was using it ??
who is using it at the moment ??
and which file is in use ?

Answer:Solved: who was using my shared folder

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I have 2 computers on my network (workgroup) both running winxp pro sp3

pc1 and pc2

there is download folder shared on pc1

how can I setup permissions for download folder, that utorrent on pc2 can download all stuff automatically in \\pc1\download without password or username request


Answer:shared download folder

Umm... i don't think that we can help with utorrent. Although this might be one of the exceptions to the forum rules.

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I have a HD that I have been using for a while as a shared HD to two TV systems in other areas of the house. One is via PS3 and the other is via DVD. Within the HD there are hundreds of folders and files and they "all" share just fine. However, I recently added a couple more similiar files and an additional folder to this HD for sharing and they are not seen by either TV system. Weird. The property settings for this folder and files is the same as for all the others. It's almost as if I can't add new stuff........

Anyone with thoughts on selective "seeing"?

Answer:Solved: one folder of many can't be shared or seen by my PS-3.

Turns out all I had to do was "restart" my computer (to which the HD is attached) and that made everything "visible" on the shared drive at my PS3.

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I want to hide a folder from certain people on the network. Is this even a possibility?


Answer:Can a folder be hidden, that is shared?

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